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in thinking the goverment should have never sold off council houses?

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gingertabby Sun 26-Oct-08 13:14:32

there is just not nough to go round.
fair enough if they rebuilt them, but they don't, well certainly not enough.

StewieGriffinsMom Sun 26-Oct-08 13:16:39

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RubyRioja Sun 26-Oct-08 13:17:04

It is weird to consider the impact of 'right to buy'.

My parents bought their council house under the RTB scheme and so 'benefitted' from it. But now one sister struggles with her mortgage and another struggles to rent privately and I think both woudl seriously consider the benefits of assured tenancy (I think it is called) to improve their quality of life.

We muddle along, but had two wages for quite a long time (without children) and live in a cheap area.

darkpunk Sun 26-Oct-08 13:18:46

it wasn't this government..it was the tories...say no more..

SqueakyPop Sun 26-Oct-08 13:18:52

But the people who bought them were happy to do so, so no, the government was not wrong.

Our first house was ex-council. It gave us options we wouldn't have had if we had to compete with more people for fewer houses.

The council doesn't have a monopoly on social housing. Purchasers of housing have to suffer competition just as much as prospective council tenants.

RubyRioja Sun 26-Oct-08 13:20:25

surely a governement should always think of medium to long term implications when making a decision like that?

Troutpout Sun 26-Oct-08 13:21:53

yanbu
Bloody thatcher

3littlefrogs Sun 26-Oct-08 13:22:43

Absolutely agree. We desperately need more council housing. Not grotty flats in ghettos. Decent houses, with gardens, near shops and schools and other amenities. Lots of different sizes, so that communities can live together. The whole property system just separates the haves and have nots, and promotes greed and selfishness.

(I do have a property, and a mortgage that I shall probably still be paying till I die).

I don't think my children will have a hope in hell of getting on the property ladder, and inheriting my home between them will not help as they will have to pay the inheritance tax and sell the house anyway.

expatinscotland Sun 26-Oct-08 13:22:50

i wouldn't buy a house that was ex-council where the tenant bought it from teh government.

why? because i already paid to subsidise their first home, why should i also line their pockets with a whacking great profit so they can swan off elsewhere.

SqueakyPop Sun 26-Oct-08 13:23:39

What implications?

There is a need for more houses in this country due to increased population, and also because of the breakdown of society (families split up and require two houses instead of one).

Housing is just as sought after in the private sector as it is for social housing. New developments all have a proportion of social housing and keyworker accommodation.

serenity Sun 26-Oct-08 13:23:45

YANBU.

RTB is a shortsighted, crappy scheme that has made a certain amount of people happy, but has caused untold problems for a lot more.

Agree with StewieGriffinsMom.

dsrplus8 Sun 26-Oct-08 13:24:42

think some councils are stoping the right to buy, cause there is shortage of houses 2 rent now, most stock they have is in "bad areas" and on the smaller size.would like to see them rebuild to replace, what r they doing with the council tax everyone pays?

expatinscotland Sun 26-Oct-08 13:25:28

'New developments all have a proportion of social housing and keyworker accommodation.'

No, they don't and aren't under obligation to if they are under a certain size, and that varies by area.

expatinscotland Sun 26-Oct-08 13:26:23

many councils have ended right to buy for all new tenants and put moratoriums on it for existing ones.

RubyRioja Sun 26-Oct-08 13:26:33

Bummer if you work in retail or bog standard office work and don't earn enough to pay private rent/mortgage. I know we need keyworkers, but I always feel for Mr or Miss average who struggles to make ends meet.

zeee Sun 26-Oct-08 13:26:41

I agree totally - we need masses more social housing, it should be an option for everyone who wants it.

beaniescreamyb Sun 26-Oct-08 13:27:11

they should have never!

Tortington Sun 26-Oct-08 13:29:45

im not sure i think it was a good idea only if there was the equivalent build in mixed communities

policywonk Sun 26-Oct-08 13:30:28

Interesting article (by Jorn Harris) about this here.

'When councils sold properties - at discounts of up to 50% - they were legally obliged to use the money to pay off debt rather than to build replacement homes. The results of such restrictions were not hard to predict: as Shelter had forecast in 1979, the supply of what we now call social housing fell way behind demand, and we ended up where we are today: according to official figures, four million people are waiting for either a council or housing association home, and the number is expected to rise to five million by 2010.'

expatinscotland Sun 26-Oct-08 13:31:42

it's a done deal now.

some people made huge profits off the sale of their former council home on the open market, and millions more wound up with completely unaffordable housing.

a fox could have sussed that out.

Tiggiwinkle Sun 26-Oct-08 13:32:24

It was one of the worst policies ever. Has devastated housing stock. People bought at rock bottom prices and have made huge profits...and now there is no decent housing stock left for those in need. A stupid, stupid policy.

NannyNanny Sun 26-Oct-08 13:33:15

I think that private housing should be cheaper. Giving everyone a chance to live somewhere they choose. It seems crazy that you can work your arse off but still not be able to afford to pay a mortgage. I hate 'property'.

forevercleaningwithmybesoms Sun 26-Oct-08 13:33:17

I think it was a good idea BUT only if they replaced those with new ones with the money made from the sale.

I would think a great many people have been lucky enough to be able to now own their own homes which they otherwise could not have. I mean with the discount they had. Those people will probably tell you they are glad they had the opportunity.

It has, unfortunately had a knock on effect in that there is now not enought housing to go round. Each one sold should have been replaced IMO and then everyone would have been happier about it.

Tiggiwinkle Sun 26-Oct-08 13:35:04

But they were sold at ridiculous prices-the money raised was not enough to replace the stock. That was never part of Thatcher's plan...

Earlybird Sun 26-Oct-08 13:35:57

I object hugely to people buying council houses/flats at a massive discount and then reaping a massive profit when they sold the houses/flats on. Maybe a significant % of any profit from an 'open market' sale should have gone back to the council?

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