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To think that "bhajiis" is not a terribly helpful spelling to give a 10 year old...

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MrsSchadenfreude Mon 22-Sep-08 18:35:56

...especially as there doesn't seem to be a standard spelling of this word. DD spelled it with one "i" and was marked wrong.

Blandmum Mon 22-Sep-08 18:40:23

Inclusion? Are there children in the class who's family originally came from the Indian Sub-continent?

is the school trying to include other cultural norms to be multi cultural?

skydancer1 Mon 22-Sep-08 18:41:40

Oh I thought it was a naming thread and I was going to say sorry, no, I don't think Bhajiis is a good idea blush

grouchyoscar Mon 22-Sep-08 18:43:06

YANBU

I grew up in Bradford (so have seen the word a lot) and have always spelt it with 1 i myself hmm

WTF...are there not enough words in the English language that are hard enough to spell or something?

cornsilk Mon 22-Sep-08 18:43:36

I think there's a unit of work in year 6 about vocabulary that we use that has originated from different cultures. Looking at where language comes from and then comparing spelling patterns is actually very useful.

Marina Mon 22-Sep-08 18:44:14

I must admit I have only ever seen it with one i on the end

Marina Mon 22-Sep-08 18:45:06

That sounds great as a project cornsilk but not if you are then going to be marked down for incorrect spelling as in rote learning of weekly lists...

MrsSchadenfreude Mon 22-Sep-08 18:45:45

It is an odd list of words...ending with vowels other than "e", so we have corgis, anacondas, armadillos, cellos, dingos, dahlias...

There are no children of Indian sub-continent origin in the class.

RupertTheBear Mon 22-Sep-08 18:45:52

We gave bhaji as a spelling last week (Year five). The spelling objective for that week was words ending in i - you try coming up with three differentiated lists of ten words!

Mercy Mon 22-Sep-08 18:46:13

Well, I assume they are given a list of spellings to learn and the whole point of the exercise is to make sure they can spell what's on the list? (whether there is a standardised spelling of the word or not)

MrsSchadenfreude Mon 22-Sep-08 18:47:14

No problem with looking at words that originate from other cultures (that must be most of the Emglish language!) but would it not be sensible to have words that are spelled only one way.

cornsilk Mon 22-Sep-08 18:47:29

bhaji

/baaji/ (also bhajia) /baaj/

• noun (pl. bhajis, bhajia) (in Indian cooking) a small flat cake or ball of vegetables, fried in batter.

— ORIGIN Hindi, ‘fried vegetables’.

from ask oxford website - maybe teacher is cod?

MrsSchadenfreude Mon 22-Sep-08 18:48:27

She had also never heard the word pronounced and thought it was pronounced bhaji-ees.

spicemonster Mon 22-Sep-08 18:48:39

cornsilk -

You should photocopy the page from the OED and give it to the teacher MrsS

LittleBella Mon 22-Sep-08 18:49:35

Why don't you challenge their spelling of the word?

I must admit, I can't see the point of forcing a child to rote learn a word that doesn't have a standardised spelling in English. As a cultural exercise on spelling systems, fine, as a rote-learned word, bollocks.

MrsSchadenfreude Mon 22-Sep-08 18:49:56

I may do that, Spicemonster. I am in a particularly grouchy mood this week.

<<goes to check calendar>>

TinkerBellesMum Mon 22-Sep-08 18:50:38

I don't think inclusion comes into it, it's a foreign word so shouldn't be in an English spelling test. If they're going to start teaching Indian languages (some schools do) then it would be fair enough to include it in a spelling test.

I went to schools where I was the only white girl in the class and we weren't learning Indian spellings.

onager Mon 22-Sep-08 18:52:04

I expect it's so it can go on the ofsted report as part of the multicultural requirements. It ticks a box.

MrsSchadenfreude Mon 22-Sep-08 18:53:52

Teacher too young to be Cod grin

Mercy Mon 22-Sep-08 18:54:59

I didn't know there was only one way of spelling it, looks like I'm wrong then.

FAQ Mon 22-Sep-08 18:55:55

"it's a foreign word so shouldn't be in an English spelling test"

errr that are LOTS of foreign words that are used in everyday English

geekgirl Mon 22-Sep-08 18:56:59

it must be Indian week in the NC hmm - dd1's (Y5) spellings today include 'chapati'

TinkerBellesMum Mon 22-Sep-08 18:57:02

Just looked on my local's menu, they spell it Bhaji.

Maybe you should collect up some menus and show them wink

Of course there's not going to be one spelling, it's a word that hasn't come from the same type of alphabet as ours so it's how people think it should be spelt.

Beetroot Mon 22-Sep-08 18:57:09

Indian words are often misspelt in the UK

I would talk to the teacher
smile

TinkerBellesMum Mon 22-Sep-08 18:58:39

That have been part of the English language for many years and are accepted as an English word. Apart from being a food can anyone say what it means, without looking it up? Can your children?

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