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To think that human excrement should not be sent to landfill

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ReallyTired Sat 06-Sep-08 19:59:27

Every disposible nappy that your child has ever used is probably in existance somewhere in landfill. What is more scary is that all these nappies will still exist after you and your grandchildren are dead.

I think that disposable nappies should be seperated from normal rubbish and recyled. I am sure that it would be possible to design a disposible nappy that was more enviromnentally friendly. Maybe a two part system with a water proof wrap and the disposible part could be made completely compostible.

The present situation stinks. I think that it would take legistation to force parents and companies to work a bit harder for the sake of our world.

TheBlonde Sat 06-Sep-08 20:04:40

what is wrong with the human waste ending up in landfill?

expatinscotland Sat 06-Sep-08 20:07:00

as opposed to prescription drugs, chemicals wastes, stuff like paint and solvents and white spirits that people toss out in their household rubbish, etc?

Please can we see a little LESS of normal, ordinary people being penalised and forced at every single turn just for trying to get through and more pressure on big business to do their part in changing for the better?

Anifrangapani Sat 06-Sep-08 20:10:37

It is better than spraying human excrement on crops llike they do now.

WendyWeber Sat 06-Sep-08 20:13:15

Landfill just ends up being packed down & built on, & I bet there are potentially far worse things in there for building over than human excrement hmm

cali Sat 06-Sep-08 20:20:30

there are a few disposable nappies on the market that are biodegradable and compostable,

have tried reusables but didn't agree with dd's skin so we chose to use disposables. I am happy to pay more so the nappies that i use won't sit around in landfill for several generations.

Moltex, Wiona and Tushies are some of the eco-disposables around.

Not all parents are irresponsible, so I do think YABU as some of us do care about our world.

ChukkyPig Sat 06-Sep-08 20:25:04

Probably a little crap in the mix encourages any degradable components to degrade, which is probably a good thing.

What about tampons/pant liners/tena lady?

Dressings which have been used by incontinent people/dressings from gammy wounds?

I would rather that lot than chemicals. At least they are organic.

onepieceoflollipop Sat 06-Sep-08 20:28:10

I use disposables part time and like lots of parents I know flush any solid waste down the loo where possible. In our area our waste is incinerated anyway.

I would say to the op that with recycling we all do what we can, just get on with it and let others do the same.

I have no energy to try and convert people either on here or in rl.

ludaloo Sat 06-Sep-08 20:37:11

I think nappies and human excrement are one of the least worrying things being buried on landfill sites.

ChukkyPig Sat 06-Sep-08 20:39:51

ReallyTired are our arguments convincing you at all? Would be one less thing to worry about if they did!

ReallyTired Sat 06-Sep-08 20:45:33

The problem with land fill is that there is a serious shortage of sites. You might not care about nappies being sent to landfill, but do you want a lovely bit of countryside near you being turned into a second landfill site to old all your child's nappies.

Or would you be out protesting against a new landfill site new your house/ child's school etc.

I am not suggesting that people be forced to use cloth, I am suggesting a design in disposible nappies to make them easier to recyle and decompose.

Anyway expatinscotland, I thought you were poor. Cloth nappies would save you a fortune financially. Seriously you can buy a set of good quality terries, nice wraps, nappi nippas and everyting you would need until potty training for less than £50.

dittany Sat 06-Sep-08 20:48:03

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

expatinscotland Sat 06-Sep-08 20:48:07

'Anyway expatinscotland, I thought you were poor. Cloth nappies would save you a fortune financially. Seriously you can buy a set of good quality terries, nice wraps, nappi nippas and everyting you would need until potty training for less than £50.'

I already use cloth nappies, thanks for assuming I didn't just because I don't think people who don't should be penalised.

hmm

I've even given away spare cloth nappies on here.

Despite not having a lot of money, I'm not exactly ignorant. hmm

onepieceoflollipop Sat 06-Sep-08 20:49:38

Did I miss expat making a post saying she doesn't use cloth nappies? (I have no idea if she does or not btw)

Saying to another poster "anyway...I thought your were poor) is, imo, quite rude.

Most posters on the thread (apart from me) didn't disclose their choice of nappy type.

onepieceoflollipop Sat 06-Sep-08 20:50:42

Sorry x-posts expat.

cali Sat 06-Sep-08 20:52:33

Councils everywhere have bins for dog owners to place their tied plastic bags full of dog poo in.

These also end up in landfill so maybe dog owners should also face legislation too.
After all these bags of dog poo are going to be around for a long time too.hmm

ChukkyPig Sat 06-Sep-08 20:53:31

I do care about environmental issues, obviously.

However there comes a balance. I personally get more worked up about all the offices in the cities leaving their lights, computers, printers etc on all night every night. I was the person who went around switching everything off at the end of every day and people would always get arsey with me.

We all have our own bugbears and we all try to do what we can. I use nature nappies and biodegradable wipes and bags which, although still not perfect, salve my conscience.

While we're on the topic, my mum got really worked up about my use of wipes, saying they are a terrible waste and why can't I use cotton wool/water or a flannel. They are just as wasteful as nappies and full of chemicals to boot.

misdee Sat 06-Sep-08 20:54:48

perscription drugs can be given back to the pharmacy to be dispose of correctly.

dressings, incontinace pads from medical reasons etc etc get collected in big yellow bags here and treated as hazordous waste.

really wish they would sort out a way of disposing on nappies. i think in holland they have disposable nappy recycling centres. but its not 'cost effective' or soemthing opver here.

reallytuire,d there is already a two part nappy system which is waterproof outer and disposable inner. mothercare smart nappy. there used tobe one called weenees i think, but not sure if thats still in production.

LackaDAISYcal Sat 06-Sep-08 20:56:18

cali, sadly, even ecos diposables aren't completely biodegradable when disposed off with the general household waste. In order for a complete degradation of them they need to be in an aerobic environment with the right amount of air circulating. Landfill sites are a completely anaerobic environment so they are no more likely to break down any quicker than a non eco disposable; although to be fair the components of them are a lot less nasty then a non eco disposable.

Also, although in theory they can be composted, considering the number of nappies a baby gets through on a weekly basis and the rate at which the nappies do eventually break down, they need careful composting in a loose heap and to be turned regularly to get the air into them to aid the breakdown process. You'd need to turn over a fair old proportion of your garden to achieve this in a domestic situation. And, from talking to the renewable energy centre in Wales, human waste should not be put in domestic compost heaps; it needs a far bigger composter to deal with it.

But, as expat points out; there are far worse things go into landfill than nappies, and although I agree that nappies should be separated, no local government will consider it as it just isn't cost effective for them to do so.

It's an interesting debate though, as something needs to be done, but where to start and who to target the most.

expatinscotland Sat 06-Sep-08 20:57:05

aha, chukky! get hold of some biodegradable kitchen roll - Lidl has some made from recycled materials, too! - and spritz with water mixed with a few drops of liquid glycerine or even baby oil plus a few drops of lavender oil.

put in a plastic box from a takeaway.

voila, wipes for when you're out!

in the early days, i used chamomile tea diluted with water and a few drops of baby oil.

don't like cotton wool myself, but IKEA makes a HUGE pack of terries for about £2.

KerryMum Sat 06-Sep-08 20:57:55

Ah the poor....

They throw nappies full of shit in the bin

smoke fags and drink while pregnant.

beat their children and feed them mcdonalds and fruit shoots.

KerryMum Sat 06-Sep-08 20:58:24

oh and I forgot...

they bring down the tone of good schools.

expatinscotland Sat 06-Sep-08 20:58:24

'perscription drugs can be given back to the pharmacy to be dispose of correctly.'

yep. sadly, a lot of folks don't realise that and dump them. shock

they can get into the water supply, folks! sad

cali Sat 06-Sep-08 20:58:52

ReallyTired, if you had read my post at 20:20, you would had

seen that the type of nappies you say you want to see

designed, actually already exist.

Maybe you should have researched the subject before

starting this discussion.

"See here"

LackaDAISYcal Sat 06-Sep-08 20:59:16

oh, lots of posts whilst I was typing that.

Reallytired, I think your comment to expat was a bit uncalled for shock.

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