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to think that a serious documentary on the BBC should not describe Hadrian as "crying like a woman"

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MNHQ2 Tue 02-Sep-08 19:48:13

Is it unreasonable to think that is more than just a wee bit sexist?

Or am I getting all sanctimonious in my old age? grin

OldLadyKnowsNothing Tue 02-Sep-08 19:53:24

Hmm, but was crying "like a woman" acceptable for a man in Hadian's culture? grin

nooka Tue 02-Sep-08 20:07:04

I wonder what crying like a woman meant in Hadrian's culture... Probably not what we mean today. Perhaps they tore their clothes and screamed?

MNHQ2 Tue 02-Sep-08 20:12:31

or maybe the women in those times were very refined and cried daintily, into little kerchiefs, whereas the men cried heaving great uncontrollable sobs?

cupsoftea Tue 02-Sep-08 20:15:18

Perhaps he was a she

Blandmum Tue 02-Sep-08 20:20:26

He did have a very loving homosexual relationship and was utterly devistated why his partner drowned in the River Nile. He had the partner deified!

cupsoftea Tue 02-Sep-08 20:23:49

Sounds like you've hit the nail on the head MB

Blandmum Tue 02-Sep-08 20:26:19

bBTW being the active member (no pun intended) of a homosexual relationship wasn't considered to be gay by the Romans.

Blandmum Tue 02-Sep-08 20:26:24

bBTW being the active member (no pun intended) of a homosexual relationship wasn't considered to be gay by the Romans.

cupsoftea Tue 02-Sep-08 20:28:01

trying to remember my school classics.....it was like this in greece as well?

Blandmum Tue 02-Sep-08 20:46:51

yes, very much so

I went to the Hadrian exhibition in the British Museum last Saterday.

There was a statue of his lover, and if it was a true representation he was stunning

morningpaper Tue 02-Sep-08 20:49:20

Who was it failed to defend the Alhambra in Granada and was told by his mother, as he left crying in a carriage, "You do well to weep as a woman for that which you could not defend as a man."

grin

ChukkyPig Tue 02-Sep-08 21:03:18

I heard that as well. I was yelling "crying like a woman? crying like a woman? Pah" at poor DH until he collapsed under the weight of my shoutyness and cried like a woman.

MNHQ2 Tue 02-Sep-08 22:19:52

LOL ChukkyPig.

I didn't have anyone to be indignant to. So I phoned the BBC and told them off instead!

ChukkyPig Wed 03-Sep-08 09:55:15

Nice one MNHQ2!!

cupsoftea Wed 03-Sep-08 10:03:18

lol mnhq2 - were you shouting like a women

MNHQ2 Wed 03-Sep-08 10:33:45

No, no shouting. Very polite. And a bit embarrassed. Wished I'd had a few drinks, as I could've had a drunken rant at them. I wouldn't give them my full name though, so i will just be recorded as a "female caller".

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