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to think that if scotland and ireland where independent countries we can all pay at least half the amount of tax.

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bluegreysky Mon 18-Aug-08 16:51:14

in england we would all be better off as we wouldn't need to pay anywhere near as much tax, to support scotland and ireland's finacial dependence.

im sick of the way they bleat on about wanting to be there own country and independent.
and the scotish kids getting uni free, funded by us etc.

what do you think?

2shoes Mon 18-Aug-08 16:51:56


Flier Mon 18-Aug-08 16:57:21

yabu and deluded

chocolatemummy Mon 18-Aug-08 16:57:47

lol, you sound like my dad! I am sure there is more to it than that because we wouldnt put up with as a nation.
I know what you mean though about them wanting to be independant all the time and it can be annoying as we are suposed to be a United Kingdom

RustyBear Mon 18-Aug-08 16:58:37

Um- Ireland is an independent country. Do you mean Northern Ireland?
And what about Wales?

sarah293 Mon 18-Aug-08 16:59:08

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maribe Mon 18-Aug-08 17:00:00

Ireland is independent, you troll.

Scotland hopefully soon.

We'll take our oil and be happy with it, thanks.

Economics not your strong suit.

chocolatemummy Mon 18-Aug-08 17:00:19

what do all these abbreviations mean?

bluegreysky Mon 18-Aug-08 17:01:30

the welsh actually seem to undersyand the situation, and do not constantly slag us off.
rusty we bank roll ireland.

ilovemydog Mon 18-Aug-08 17:02:20

As a matter of interest, who gets the revenue from the North Sea oil?

maribe Mon 18-Aug-08 17:02:34

Who is "we".

Is this an English board?

News to me.


chocolatemummy Mon 18-Aug-08 17:02:37

ouch I can see this one getting nasty!

maribe Mon 18-Aug-08 17:03:26

The oil revenue currently goes to all of the UK.

GivePeasAChance Mon 18-Aug-08 17:04:29

Someone has been reading the Daily Mail. Oh dear.

CaptainFabioHiltsTheCoolerCat Mon 18-Aug-08 17:05:42

Oh Christ this'll go arse shaped.

chocolatemummy Mon 18-Aug-08 17:05:50

lol yes and my dad reads the bloody daily mail its like the middle aged mans daily mood breaker

ilovemydog Mon 18-Aug-08 17:06:52

Thanks maribe, thought it was a devolution issue, but guess not...

nancy75 Mon 18-Aug-08 17:09:19

build a wall round london, make it a country then id be rolling in money! grin

Upwind Mon 18-Aug-08 17:09:22

Even Daily mail readers understand that the Republic of Ireland is not part of the UK. And that Scotland's oil and gas have powered the UK economy.

The OP is a troll, amazing that some MNers are so ignorant they don't grasp the above!

GivePeasAChance Mon 18-Aug-08 17:11:23

I do think the OP has got the argument slightly wrong however - it should just be LONDON, not just England. According to this line of argument, London 'bankrolls' everything. So really you should have included northern peasants and inbred ruralites along with the Scots and the Welsh. wink

2shoes Mon 18-Aug-08 17:11:59

ok so the op might be a troll. but the good thing is that people will post as to why she is wrong and I will then undersatnd it all.

midnightexpress Mon 18-Aug-08 17:12:19

I think your grasp of economics/demographics must be shaky. The population of Scotland is about 5 million. The population of Northern Ireland is about 1.7 million. The population of England and Wales is about 62 million. So if you reckon you'd be paying half the tax if Scotland and NI were independent, you are living in a fool's paradise.

midnightexpress Mon 18-Aug-08 17:14:35

Oh, and OP doesn't seem to be a troll actually.

Upwind Mon 18-Aug-08 17:20:27

I just googled for per capita GDP. Figures are not available for seperate nations within the UK but amusingly, the most recent ones I could find suggest that the Republic of Ireland is more productive and richer than the UK.

If Scotland gains full indepence and control over Scottish national resources the same thing is likely to happen.

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