Does anyone know if you get multiple speeding tickets if you have travelled at least 14 times in a week down a road thinking it was a 30 not a 20 restriction?

[Mummytotwonow]

My poor friend travelled to Wales to help look after a friend after an operation and stayed for a week. She has just returned home and found a speeding ticket (she was travelling 26mph thinking it was 30mph road and the ticket says it was 20mph). She travelled along this road at least twice a day running errands for about a week. She is so so so worried she is going to get multiple speeding tickets with fines and points and lose her license. It says she will get up to 3 points and fine on the first ticket. I have have checked the name of the road online and it looks like it's a fixed camera. She is so worried. Does anyone know what happen in a case like this?

Thanks x

[Silvercatowner]

I got 2 speeding tickets in one day - one on the way there, one on the way back, same stretch of road.

[Mummytotwonow]

@Silvercatowner oh no. It's not looking good then. She won't be able to work if she loses her license

[Rummikub]

Yeah I did a speed awareness course and one guy there had multiple tickets for same stretch of motorway.

[FreeBritnee]

Yes you can. My relative got two tickets on the same day through the same camera.

[Silvercatowner]

[quote Mummytotwonow]@Silvercatowner oh no. It's not looking good then. She won't be able to work if she loses her license [/quote]
I didn't lose my licence. It cost a shedload of money and a speed awareness course (rightly so). Hopefully it will be the same for your friend.

[LimitIsUp]

Perhaps I have a too much of a touching faith in the law, but I would imagine there would be grounds for clemency in this case. If it looks like she is going to get multiple fines and points and it tots up to more than 12, she would need to appear before a magistrate, and would have the opportunity to plead her case.

I appeared before a Magistrate for driving offences (totting up points - nothing too heinous in its own right) and had the opportunity to make my case.

[ChequerBoard]

Yep, I'm also in the two speeding tickets in one day camp. Both temporary variable limits that I just wasn't aware of changing.

[PheasantsNest]

She needs to go for an eye test by the sounds of it. Lack of observation.

[WithMyEncyclopedia]

Were the speed limit signs properly displayed? Usually for 20 they are quite prominent.
Someone in my family got two tickets for the same stretch of road unfortunately. I would hope there'd be some room for discussion in this case? You can usually get in touch with the speed enforcement unit- they'll have given contact details in the letter.
At the moment though I'd sit tight and see if further letters arrive.

[FelicityBeedle]

You can defend your license if you need it for your job. DP hired a van and drove it got a week cross country not realising it had a lower speed limit, he didn’t get a single ticket. There’s hope.
(Oh and yes he’s an idiot)

[WithMyEncyclopedia]

Felicity that's what happened to my family member!

[Mummytotwonow]

@PheasantsNest you sound like a lovely person. She has never been to this area before, was looking after two young children, helping her single parent friend recover from an operation as she doesn't have anyone else. It's hardly doing 50mph in a 30 is it! She's never had a speeding ticket in her life. People make mistakes.

[titchy]

@Silvercatowner

I got 2 speeding tickets in one day - one on the way there, one on the way back, same stretch of road.

Me too Took the course for the first one and the points for the one two hours later.

[LimitIsUp]

@WithMyEncyclopedia

Were the speed limit signs properly displayed? Usually for 20 they are quite prominent.
Someone in my family got two tickets for the same stretch of road unfortunately. I would hope there'd be some room for discussion in this case? You can usually get in touch with the speed enforcement unit- they'll have given contact details in the letter.
At the moment though I'd sit tight and see if further letters arrive.

This a good point.

If it comes to it, it might be worth appointing a specialist motoring lawyer

[Mummytotwonow]

Thank you for all of the helpful comments and advice. I will let her know. She first has to respond confirming that she was driving the vehicle. Hopefully, by Monday and Tuesday next week will see if anymore come through and then see what can be done.

[Dinoroaraus]

Sounds like it might not have been marked up clearly if she didn't see the signs 14 times.

[Dinoroaraus]

20s round here usually have loads of signs and markings on the actual road.

[mum11970]

Tell us which road it is and anyone local may be able to let you know if there is an actual fixed camera. A 20 mph limit and a fixed camera are hard to miss so many times. A fixed camera will be bright yellow and have markings on the floor.

[RandomMess]

I would definitely be checking that the legally required signage was up on the stretch of road and not obscured by overhanging branches/missing etc

[BlusteryLake]

In my area, many roads have recently been made 20mph and the signage is nowhere near adequate. The council are way behind the new limits. It is definitely worth having the friend check this, there might be local groups where it is discussed.

[cheesegloriouscheeseyum]

Most of my area is 20mph. We have the standard signs at the beginning of each road, plus larger roads have huge circles with "20" in them painted on the ground about every 15m. Plus speed cameras have to be bright yellow. It's going to be tricky for her to convince the powers that be that she missed all the signage and a camera every day twice a day for a week

[cabbageking]

I suggest an eye test may be appropriate.

I would expect road signs and road markings if it is a 20mph limit with additional humps, chicanes etc for a 20mph zone.

[BertramLacey]

She has never been to this area before, was looking after two young children, helping her single parent friend recover from an operation as she doesn't have anyone else. It's hardly doing 50mph in a 30 is it! She's never had a speeding ticket in her life. People make mistakes.

Doing good things for someone in need doesn't change the basic physics of speeding. Either the signs aren't adequate, in which case she could appeal, or they are, in which case she drove down that road every day for a week without observing the signs.

I'm also rather suspicious of her story. IME, whenever you obey a 30 limit, traffic stacks up behind you and often overtakes you. It's a rare driver who does 26 in a 30 zone. I suspect she realised it was a 20 zone and thought it was fine so long as she didn't go over 30.

[insancerre]

She drove at least 14 times on the same road and didn’t notice once that it was 20 miles per hour?
I don’t believe her
And if she is telling the truth then I really don’t think she should be driving at all

[Shade17]

Andrew’s the person to speak to. He really is the dog’s bollocks. www.counsel.direct/