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AIBU?

to not understand how Philip Green and his wife live with themselves?

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MaMaLa321 · 01/12/2020 13:05

Tina Green received millions from Arcadia, as did Philip Green. Now the company has gone down, with a big hole in the pension pot. How do they live with themselves?

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PinkiOcelot · 01/12/2020 13:10

Some people don’t seem to have a problem with this. Sunning himself on his yacht in Monaco apparently.
It should be raising questions though, how there was a huge hole in BHS pension pot and now a hole in this pension pot.

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dontlikebeards · 01/12/2020 13:14

I was thinking the same. I would love to hear the thoughts of the person that has voted YABU.

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VladmirsPoutine · 01/12/2020 13:15

Very easily I'd imagine. People are incredibly possible of enacting enormous acts of greed, deception, fraud and all manner of evils yet manage to sleep comfortably well. The systems that allowed him to do this should be questioned - not that he has taken advantage of them iyswim.

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Whammyyammy · 01/12/2020 13:16

I'm sure laying by their pool or a trip round Monaco marina soothes their guilt.....

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AmandaHoldensLips · 01/12/2020 13:18

There's a whole swathe of people who give no shits about other people and are ruled by the Money God. It's a vile personality trait.

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Ukholidaysaregreat · 01/12/2020 13:18

The person who voted YABU must be Phil/Tina. Fess up!

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Viviennemary · 01/12/2020 13:20

Because they don't care about anyone but themselves. There are quite a lot of people like this but on a much smaller scale and they don't make it so obvious.

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Scolha · 01/12/2020 13:22

What I don’t get is why these people are allowed to get away with things like this?
Something needs to change.

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DynamoKev · 01/12/2020 13:26

@VladmirsPoutine

Very easily I'd imagine. People are incredibly possible of enacting enormous acts of greed, deception, fraud and all manner of evils yet manage to sleep comfortably well. The systems that allowed him to do this should be questioned - not that he has taken advantage of them iyswim.

No-one forced him. He has personal responsibility.
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DynamoKev · 01/12/2020 13:27

@Scolha

What I don’t get is why these people are allowed to get away with things like this?
Something needs to change.

Because twats keep voting Tory HTH
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sleepyhead · 01/12/2020 13:31

They don't care.

They see it as they played by the rules so it's not fault that the rules make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

They likely think that those who will lose out could have themselves been billionaires with off-shore tax-efficient wheezes if they just would try harder.

Everything that goes right is completely down to their talent and hard work.

Everything that goes wrong is just one of those things and can't be helped.

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MoChridhe · 01/12/2020 13:31

Dynamokev , He paid his wife £1.2 billion under a labour government. Figure that!

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DynamoKev · 01/12/2020 13:34

@MoChridhe

Dynamokev , He paid his wife £1.2 billion under a labour government. Figure that!

That was a Tory-lite version of Labour. Other parties are available.
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timeforanewstart · 01/12/2020 13:40

@DynamoKev various parties have been in power or coalition its about the man having personal morals

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justanotherneighinparadise · 01/12/2020 13:44

Because they exist in an affluent bubble. Their world is so far beyond the realms of the every day folk they wouldn’t have the first clue what a normal lifestyle looks like. Imagine the queen trying to fathom shopping at Lidl followed by the school run in a Fiat500. She’d be floundering around trying to find the right hat and gloves for two hours.

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DynamoKev · 01/12/2020 13:46

[quote timeforanewstart]@DynamoKev various parties have been in power or coalition its about the man having personal morals [/quote]
I agree he didn't have to avail himself of every opportunity.
He has personal responsibility.
But the poster I was replying to asked why this sort of thing was legal and I offered the opinion that Tory (and Tory-lite_ governments that we continually elect because of our steady drift to the right since 1979 is why it's not illegal.

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Calmandmeasured1 · 01/12/2020 13:48

Oh ffs, it has more thing to do with either political party. However, maybe they could make changes and revise The Companies Act. There are many things that could be changed including company owners and directors forming new companies when one goes bust, slightly changing company names to mislead the public. Also when individuals petition for bankruptcy - things should change so that people have to pay debts no matter how long it takes.

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DryRoastPeanut · 01/12/2020 13:53

I’m sure that sipping expensive champagne whilst cruising on his luxury yacht will take the sting out of it for him.

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AIMD · 01/12/2020 13:56

They’re selfish. They think because they can get away with it they’re ok. Our laws allow them to crack on exploiting others for their own gain.

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TwitterTwatterofTinyMinds · 01/12/2020 13:56

Caitlin Moran wrote a column fairly recently about how those who are super rich may well be 'missing' a part of them, emotionally or psychologically which allows them to accumulate huge personal wealth and for it not to even occur to them to do anything different to share this or ease the plight of others (I have paraphrased what was a much better article than my summary suggests!). The more I see of how the super wealthy live, the more inclined I am to agree.

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PicsInRed · 01/12/2020 13:57

Psychopaths innit

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MaMaLa321 · 01/12/2020 13:57

I agree that something legally has to change. But I'm still, perhaps naively, shocked that people who do this can live with themselves. How much money does anyone need, after all?

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boomshakey · 01/12/2020 13:58

Greed

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SebastianTheCrab · 01/12/2020 14:01

Retail's gone to hell. For years Green's empire provided jobs and careers - it's not his fault personally his industry is crumbling. And aren't we all meant to be buying ethically now anyway?

I'm no fan btw - I've spoken to him twice and both times he was horribly rude, much as he is to everyone.

But turning him into this bogeyman pinup for obscene wealth - when most of the ones you ought to worry about are the ones who keep themselves under the radar - is tiresome. He is but one of many.

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VinylDetective · 01/12/2020 14:02

@justanotherneighinparadise

Because they exist in an affluent bubble. Their world is so far beyond the realms of the every day folk they wouldn’t have the first clue what a normal lifestyle looks like. Imagine the queen trying to fathom shopping at Lidl followed by the school run in a Fiat500. She’d be floundering around trying to find the right hat and gloves for two hours.

So would most 94 year olds to be fair!
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