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AIBU?

To hire a nanny and offer her this set up?

108 replies

plplz · 28/10/2020 10:59

A quick run down, five-month old DD and have had her nursery for a month or so, and she's not been doing as well as we would like, so looking at a nanny.

The dilemma is that it's only a few months before I think she would do a lot better in the nursery, and the costs of a nanny are eye-watering.

We interviewed a great nanny who isn’t working at the moment, and while I would love to have her in I don't want to mess her about.

Would it be unreasonable to ask her to work for us while she finds a suitable gig, and pay her cash (would probably meet her halfway between her gross and net rate as as sweetener).

Any warnings, advice or thoughts?

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Smallsteps88 · 28/10/2020 11:00

I’d run a mile from you tbh.

RunningFromInsanity · 28/10/2020 11:02

Surely you just advertise for a short term nanny?

RandomMess · 28/10/2020 11:03

Look for a childminder?

Short term Nanny?

Why employ someone illegally cash on hand..

Rainb0wDrops · 28/10/2020 11:04

Why not look for a childminder for a more homely environment and then move to nursery when ready?

NailsNeedDoing · 28/10/2020 11:05

You can’t offer to pay her cash if by that you mean you don’t want to employ her properly, it’s insulting. You could offer her a temporary contract though and be honest about how long you expect to need her.

FelicityPike · 28/10/2020 11:05

So you want to pay her cash in hand?
No way!

plplz · 28/10/2020 11:06

To be fair she did allude to being ok with being paid in cash.

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user183684257424 · 28/10/2020 11:06

You don't want to mess her about, but you do want to propose tax evasion to her?

Right.

SnaggleBeast · 28/10/2020 11:07

You can only ask. I wouldn't expect her to say yes though. Especially not if you're offering her less than she wants.

HOkieCOkie · 28/10/2020 11:08

No you have to employe your nanny and pay her all tax and NI. I’ve been offered cash before and walked out of the Interview.

Sheeplife · 28/10/2020 11:09

Yabu, pay properly and legally.

user183684257424 · 28/10/2020 11:10

You do realise you can be imprisoned for tax evasion?

ittooshallpass · 28/10/2020 11:10

How would you like a 5 month old to do at nursery? What are the issues? Surely talk to nursery and get them resolved. Definitely don't pay someone cash in hand!

mangocoveredlamb · 28/10/2020 11:12

As the others have said don’t offer her the cash.

However I think you could offer her a temporary contract, which would make the “eye watering” but short term.

Teedeepie · 28/10/2020 11:13

I would be very wary about employing somebody to look after my precious child without a formal or legal contact which is what you would be doing with a cash in hand set up. It simply isn’t worth the risk to your child. Advertise it as a 6 month (for example) contract properly.

SpeccyLime · 28/10/2020 11:15

why would you want any nanny willing to agree to working under illegal conditions anyway? Surely personal integrity is totally fundamental when considering who you would want looking after your kids?

flaviaritt · 28/10/2020 11:16

What happens if she does something to hurt your child?

WhySoSensitive · 28/10/2020 11:18

Why isn’t she doing well at nursery OP? Did you have expectations not met for her or is it something else?

SnaggleBeast · 28/10/2020 11:18

I missed the age. What difference will a few months make?!

hm246 · 28/10/2020 11:20

Not sure I could trust someone to look after my child in my home if they were willing to participate in tax avoidance.

mindutopia · 28/10/2020 11:26

Just push ahead with nursery. Nursery is always difficult to start. It will be rough for the first few months at 9 months or 12 months too. I would just carry on. I think it would be more difficult settling in with a nanny and then taking that person away and trying to settle into a new setting later.

HOkieCOkie · 28/10/2020 11:27

@flaviaritt why would she hurt her child? Nannies don’t hurt children they prefer to care for them.

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flaviaritt · 28/10/2020 11:28

I didn’t say she would hurt the child. I am asking what the OP would do if harm came to the child as a result of the nanny’s actions and she had no employment contract, hadn’t been paying tax etc.

NoSleepInTheHeat · 28/10/2020 11:31

I can't believe people would think about doing cash in hand for childcare. Basically you are showing someone that you want to trust 100% that you are dishonest...

Also, you do realize that she can tell HMRC about it and as employer you will be the one liable for penalties?

HOkieCOkie · 28/10/2020 11:33

@flaviaritt Ahh I see, well Causing harm to a child Is gross miss conduct which is instant dismissal so contract or not she could just dismiss her instantly.

No decent nanny will agree to no contract and cash in hand. I won’t even start a job until I’ve signed the contract.

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