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Poptart4 Sat 20-Jun-20 10:22:48

There's a story in the daily fail today of Angelina Jolie talking about her divorce from Brad Pitt. Firstly I'm no Angelina fan and was definitely on Team Jennifer back in the day BUT....

AIBU to be so annoyed with how people blindly defend Brad and blame Angelina for their divorce without knowing anything about their relationship?

The story is basically Angelina saying she divorced him for the sake of the children's wellbeing. Considering there have been many rumours for years about Brad's drinking and weed smoking. Rumours Brad himself has admitted to, why is Angelina still getting the blame for their divorce? The comments section is full of vitriol towards her. And saint Brad can do no wrong.

This is a man who publicly cheated on his wife (Jennifer) humiliating her in front of the whole world. And who obviously has addiction problems. He also allegedly assaulted one of the kids while drunk or high which what has led to Angie divorcing him.

Why do people choose to over look this mans faults?

And it's not just with these two, I've seen similar happen to woman I know in real life. People automatically assuming the poor man just had to get away from his nagging shrill of a wife. Not knowing the abuse (financial, emotional or physical) the poor wife has put up with for years.

I find woman to be the worst woman bashers too.

AIBU to be so sick of it?

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borntohula Sat 20-Jun-20 10:24:10

No, people hate women, look at poor Meghan Markle.

OwlinaTree Sat 20-Jun-20 10:24:16

Probably stems from the fact he was seen as such a heart throb in the 90s.

LorenzoVonMatterhorn Sat 20-Jun-20 10:26:03

Scales are now removed from your eyes op and So youll now notice the misogyny and shitty men apologists everywhere.

IdratherbeinCornwall Sat 20-Jun-20 10:26:52

Yanbu.

Once you see it you start to notice it everywhere.

LastRoloIsMine Sat 20-Jun-20 10:28:40

Mens bad behaviour is always womens fault.

DV.
She nagged.
She made me do it.
She caught me out on my lies.
She's cheating.
She was late with my dinner.
She talks back.

Rape.
She was drunk.
On her own.
Wore short skirt/revealing clothes.
She led me on.
She said yes.
She said no but she meant yes.
She's stuck up so deserved it.

Man murders children/commits suicide.
She kept my kids from me.
She didn't deserve them.
She destroyed my life.
She made me depressed.
She wanted to take all of my money for child support.
She introduced them to a new man.
Its her fault.

Depressing but truthful.

OnlyFoolsnMothers Sat 20-Jun-20 10:28:56

this is on a website - mn- where any posts by the OW get torn to shreds.

LastRoloIsMine Sat 20-Jun-20 10:30:31

this is on a website - mn- where any posts by the OW get torn to shreds.

Isnt that about the OW actions not the fact that she is a woman?

FlowersAreBeautiful Sat 20-Jun-20 10:31:46

It's the daily fail - almost all comments will be like that. The readership are mostly men. It's a right wing newspaper. The way it's written will be heavily sexist and one sided to drive negative, sexist comments.
I deleted the app (only had it as they had lots of news stories) when I read a story about a male murderer. The fail's slant on the story was the main picture showing his partner and the main article and headline basically about how could the woman be with that man, not about the actual crime HE committed. It's vile

Tigersneeze Sat 20-Jun-20 10:52:12

yanbu

classic misogyny.

mens bad behaviour is too often deferred to the woman in their life. it starts small - he doesn't have a card/gift for HIS family member - its his wife's fault for not reminding him, sorting it for him.

microscopic dynamics like this lead to bigger more obvious situations:

he hit her/cheated - she must have provoked it.

so tiered of it 🤮

forsucksfake Sat 20-Jun-20 10:56:39

Gendered expectations. Women are expected to be compassionate and understanding and kind. To our our detriment.

Any woman who does not lower herself to meet those demands is a hateful bitch.

annabel85 Sat 20-Jun-20 11:01:12

FlowersAreBeautiful

It's the daily fail - almost all comments will be like that. The readership are mostly men. It's a right wing newspaper. The way it's written will be heavily sexist and one sided to drive negative, sexist comments.
I deleted the app (only had it as they had lots of news stories) when I read a story about a male murderer. The fail's slant on the story was the main picture showing his partner and the main article and headline basically about how could the woman be with that man, not about the actual crime HE committed. It's vile

The Mail traditionally is the only paper with a majority female readership.

FlowersAreBeautiful Sat 20-Jun-20 11:49:51

@annabel85
That's even more depressing that hateful women bashing articles are read by more women than men.

tubbatops Sat 20-Jun-20 12:00:02

I think there is an element of protectionism in order to convince it could happen to them, if that makes sense.
Eg I won't get raped because I don't wear short skirts, my children won't come to harm because I don't let them play out. My husband won't cheat unless he's bewitched & stolen from me. Hence the hatred for Angelina.

XDownwiththissortofthingX Sat 20-Jun-20 12:02:36

Can't say I've ever met anyone who has ever made any comment at all about their reasons for divorce.

FluffyKittensinabasket Sat 20-Jun-20 12:06:33

Women on Mumsnet constantly bash other women.

Ticklemeelmo Sat 20-Jun-20 12:07:57

It's the daily fail - almost all comments will be like that. The readership are mostly men.

Not true actually, its readership are mostly women.

borntohula Sat 20-Jun-20 12:10:14

Yep, women can definitely be the absolute worst for women bashing, I wonder what the reasons are.

FluffyKittensinabasket Sat 20-Jun-20 12:17:25

The nastiest comments I have ever read have been on Mumsnet. Which is meant to be a supportive place for parents.

GilbertMarkham Sat 20-Jun-20 12:27:32

Perhaps unfairly - Angelina comes across as unlikeable.

Plus she was a co cheater on Jen Aniston.

But .. it certainly seems like the split isBrad's fault and I've had to overcome my prejudice against her to say that.

WorraLiberty Sat 20-Jun-20 12:28:07

FluffyKittensinabasket

The nastiest comments I have ever read have been on Mumsnet. Which is meant to be a supportive place for parents.

Which makes sense, given the Daily Mail is Mumsnet's most popular newspaper.

Hardly a day goes by without a Daily Mail reader like the OP, starting a thread about something they read in the Daily Mail.

CelestialSpanking Sat 20-Jun-20 12:28:22

Women tear other women down almost as much as men do it. And @LastRoloIsMine is right with the list. My ex has that mentality and so do both of his parents- especially his mother.

Angelina Jolie getting a hard time splitting up with Brad Pitt didn’t shock me at all. Even when he left Jennifer Aniston it was all JA’s fault somehow- she wouldn’t have children (allegedly) and how dare she deprive her husband of his “right”- was I think, the narrative. Even though BP was having an affair.

Similar happened when David Beckham cheated on Victoria with his PA. columnists were lining up to stick the boot into VB because “if she had only moved to another country with him to further his career instead of wanting to carve out her own he wouldn’t have had to cheat!” Or something. And I don’t even like VB all that much.

Women get a rough deal in general. At least this lot get some comfort from being stinking rich and successful in their own right I guess.

GilbertMarkham Sat 20-Jun-20 12:29:18

I didn't actually know about his drinking etc before reading that recently, but I did think he seemed like a bit of a dick .. because he said something about marriage/monogamy not being for life while married to Jen Aniston.

And she mentioned something about his lack of emotional intelligence of something diplomatic after he left her.

GilbertMarkham Sat 20-Jun-20 12:31:06

She also made of clear that she didn't say no to kids and it wasn't even on agenda before he "checked out".

annabel85 Sat 20-Jun-20 13:06:10

Only thing i'd say about Angelina and it goes for anyone regardless of sex. If you have an affair that leads to the break up of someone's marriage, then chances are that person will screw you over/have their own issues as they did to their spouse.

Don't go after married men.

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