School Staff. How do you feel about summer schools?(440 Posts)
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Just watched an ex-Ofsted inspector on BBC Breakfast talk about how important summer schools will be and how they should be staffed by the same teachers students have normally.
This hasn't been mentioned in our school yet but I really don't know how it will be managed. I can't imagine a lot of staff will be happy to give up their holidays. In our school a good number of the middle leaders and TA's salaries are pro-rata'd to term time only. I've worked full-time from home so it's not like I've been on holiday since March.
How would you feel about being asked to work?
As a burgundy book teaching contract directs 195 days..190 teaching and 5 INSET then schools that are using that model still will presumably be paying for extra days teaching and/ or looking for volunteers. .. As many teachers have already worked through Easter and Half Term it will be interesting to see how many will. There's a lot of stuff floating around.. Yesterday there the idea that it might be summer camps run by students , volunteers and retired teachers. Interested to see what the plan is .. I'm sure it will be very cunning
Just to be clear, I'm not against schools opening as long as the safety measures are in place. We are opening from our Year 10 today and that's great. I'm well aware summer schools will go a long way to helping isolated young people and will be invaluable for making sure they are caught-up for September.
Nah, ain’t gonna happen.
Not school staff, but I don't want my kids taught over the summer by worn out teachers. Or for the next academic year. They'll be burnt out.
All fo the teachers I know work incredibly hard in term time and they also work a bit during the holidays. They're already knackered ina normal year! Add in the stress of the times, the uncertainty, the risk they've faced continuing to work in schools l and the anxiety that many of us have felt and I firmly believe they deserve the six week holidays to be normal.
I also wonder, given how difficult it's been to get a lot of our Year 10's to do anything how we'll summer schools would be accessed.
Nope. I've worked full time through this, it's been incredibly stressful and I need a break. I love my job and my kids but I also need to look after myself and spend some time with my family.
The Welsh Education minister wanted to bring forward the summer holiday and reopen in August. The teachers unions refused and she had to forget that idea. I can't believe that the unions will let teachers work theough the summer break in England either.
I’m a TA. I’d do it if we are still restricted on travelling and I can’t go anywhere else, but I’d expect more than my normal pay for it. Can’t see many of the teachers doing it though, they’ve done enough extra already.
I don't feel it should be compulsory for teachers to do this.
Just open the summer holiday clubs for ALL working parents.
It can’t happen - at my school we have been setting work daily, marking as normal and doing live lessons. Like hell am I teaching through the Summer - I’ll be preparing for September Thank you very much!
The government won't be able to find the money to pay staff. It wont happen.
I agree with @ukgift2016. The normal holiday clubs should run through the holidays. They will already have missed out on income from Easter and May and ime (LSA) it has been difficult enough to get some students to work when they know their mates are home and likely doing a lot less or at least having more freedom about how they do their studies. These same students are the ones who will need to catch up and they really won't appreciate being forced into school over the summer.
Government won’t pay for it and, sadly, it won’t actively help the students who need it most. The students who are the furthest behind won’t access it for lots of different reasons (number 1 being they won’t want to) and the students who are doing better will. The education gap will just get larger.
It won’t be staffed by teachers.
There are plenty of holiday clubs, actors/musicians/performers, people who usually run school clubs & visits who would probably be keen on 6 weeks work though.
My school has been teaching the full timetable live, setting work and marking as normal, so very ready for the holidays and I imagine the kids are too!
Nope, worked now since February without a break. I won’t be doing it.
I suppose it’s the equivalent of being asked to work your holidays for free. I honestly can’t see how it would be feasible or even fair. Teachers are shattered they need a break. They have been working extremely hard, most whilst home schooling their own children. If you force them to work, we will loose even more teaching staff. They will burn out, as the majority have found from home schooling teaching is hard work and that’s without setting the work, dealing with parents and ofsted and the other billion things teachers have to do.
Teachers have been working throughout this crisis. They have been forgotten. Please please don’t put any more on them as we will loose them
I'm not prepared to work for free during the summer. I already worked during half term and Easter and have had to deal with all the 'teachers getting paid to sit in their gardens' comments.
I don't think many teachers will be prepared to work over summer, even if we are paid tbh. We need a break. Some of my colleagues are very close to breaking point already. Senior leadership staff have literally not had a day off since March.
OP,unless you want a bunfight ,I'd get this moved to staffroom.
Some teachers might volunteer if it was well paid but not many.
Personally I’m absolutely shattered so I won’t be doing it. I might have if I was in my 20s and had no kids of my own and it wasn’t all summer.
As a secondary teacher I’m anticipating next academic year to be really tough. I imagine we’ll be doing loads of extra sessions for y11 and y13 to make up for lost time now (practical subject so plenty will need to be done even with kids who have been working hard). I need to recharge and plan for that.
Same as a lot of you, I have already done Easter and half term holidays.
I also agree that it won't help those that haven't engaged anyway. They just won't come.
Plus I want some time with my own children. I might want to 'catch them up' as much of their home learning has been in the evening when everyone is tired so not that great really.
Finally I can't see them paying us.
If it was for a max of a week, paid. I would.
Otherwise it's a no from me!
I've already worked half-term and Easter unpaid and I'm worried it may have set a precedent for summer. I might be inclined to work maybe 2 weeks of the summer if the pay was over what I normally would be paid. Also I know that I've worked more to help out staff who have kids at home (I'm child-free) and I worry about be asked to do that more.
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