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AIBU to think this is a potential way for primary school kids to catch up?

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Crunchymum Thu 11-Jun-20 20:30:02

Current teachers move up with their year group?

So mine will be going into Y3 and Y1, their current teachers remain with them. In effect teaching them for 4.5 terms as opposed to 3.

These teachers will be best placed to know where the children are lacking, how best to support them. They know where the are at with their home schooling. They know where they could / should be.

Obvious issues are teachers tend to remain within their KS. So a KS1 teachers may not be equipped to move to KS2? Same with EY moving to KS1 But they can be trained over the summer?

New teachers for reception class

Year 6 teachers provide extra support for SATs years

Our school is a double intake (so 2 classes for each year) and there is always movement with the teachers. Mainly EY moving to KS1 from what I've seen.

Is this idea feasible at all?

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Aurorie11 Thu 11-Jun-20 20:32:14

So existing yr 6 teachers who to reception? It's a completely different skill set. Yr 6 teachers are really attuned to support towards sats

Aurorie11 Thu 11-Jun-20 20:32:55

Who should be move

NotIncandescentWithRage Thu 11-Jun-20 20:34:19

And the Y2’s who move to a different school?

SoupDragon Thu 11-Jun-20 20:34:20

Where is the money to pay the new reception teachers coming from?

amy85 Thu 11-Jun-20 20:37:22

This won't work in mainstream Schools....could potentially work in SEN schools but definitely not mainstream

Duckfinger Thu 11-Jun-20 20:38:05

This is happening at my DDs school. They are very lucky that their year 6 teacher is leaving so they have been able to recruit a EYFS specialist to go into reception and everyone else will move up.

Nameynameychangey1234555554544 Thu 11-Jun-20 20:38:22

I agree and disagree. Year 3,4 and 5 teachers in our school tend to be reasonably fluid and don't always teach 1 specific year.

DD is in year 3 and I could see the benefit of her teacher going up with her, the ampunt of curriculum covered is a lot and he will know exactly who has done what work.

However I can see the need for year 6 teachers to continue to teach year 6 and EYFS and KS1 to stay in their own brackets.

Sparklesocks Thu 11-Jun-20 20:39:29

It’s a nice idea but I don’t think it would work for every class?

Crunchymum Thu 11-Jun-20 20:39:50

It's just an idea.

Current Y6 teachers will support those who have SATs. Year 5 move up with their Y6 class.

Money for extra reception teachers will be from the government (who seem to be able to shit money)

This will only work in schools who have R-Y6 in house with no movement.

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BlessYourCottonSocks Thu 11-Jun-20 20:40:01

So a KS1 teachers may not be equipped to move to KS2? Same with EY moving to KS1 But they can be trained over the summer?

That was basically the bit that stood out for me.

Teachers aren't paid during the summer and (most of us) are on our knees with stress at this point. I do not teach primary, so don't feel able to comment - but you cannot expect teachers to spend their summer training.

MamaFirst Thu 11-Jun-20 20:40:40

In our school teachers change year groups, they don't stay with the same year or even keystage year after year. Last years year 5 teacher has been in reception this year, for example. Admittedly they do ordinarily tend to move just up or down a year.

CallmeAngelina Thu 11-Jun-20 20:41:00

Where is the money to train teachers "over the summer?" Where is the will for those teachers to give up their holiday to do so?
Although I actually disagree such training would be required. It's no big deal to move from Yr 2 to 3, but there sure as hell might be to move from Yr 6 to Reception. And I don't know of a single yr 6 teacher who would countenance it.

Aragog Thu 11-Jun-20 20:41:01

*But they can be trained over the summer?*

So as well as working for free throughout Easter and may breaks they have to give up their summer, unpaid, too?

Technically they don't need training as they're qualified to teach any year group, it's just many schools keep staff within a year group or two unless the teacher requests it.

What about teachers who are leaving and moving to new schools?

The first few weeks are going to be just reassessing children anyway as well have no real idea where they are at in terms of independent completed work. It's all very well getting home learning in and feeding back, but tbh we don't really know how much support children have had.

Young children are, in my experience, generally very flexible to new situations. So long as a schools do some transition over the next four weeks then it's totally possible for them to move to new teachers.

Most of our KW and vulnerable children are currently in school in different classrooms and with different staff. Some - most - have no teacher or ta they've been with before. They've all coped really well at our school with those changes.

There will be a huge focus, in lower primary, on reading and throughout primary on English and Maths. And a lot on wellbeing too. Hopefully we will retain the staff rest of the curriculum too but the English, maths, phonics and reading will be key.

For secondary it will be trickier. And goodness knows for year 10 and 12. They will be the most hard hit year groups I think.

Crunchymum Thu 11-Jun-20 20:42:35

* no Y2 movement

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SoupDragon Thu 11-Jun-20 20:43:07

Money for extra reception teachers will be from the government (who seem to be able to shit money)

That is simply ridiculous.

CallmeAngelina Thu 11-Jun-20 20:43:22

Anyway, it's not really necessary. In Primary at least, the Autumn term will probably be spent in revision and gap-filling of Yr 3 summer work, and teaching from where the kids are (which will be all over the place!). No need to formalise it with remaining with old classes.

Aragog Thu 11-Jun-20 20:43:44

We are an infant school.
Our year 2s go to a separate junior school. It might have the same name and be very close by, but it's entirely separate to the infants - different head, different teachers, etc. There's no mix.

Our school is planning still for normal changes. We should know by Monday who will be teaching which classes, the children should find out not too long after.

AppleKatie Thu 11-Jun-20 20:43:48

Current Y6 teachers will support those who have SATs. Year 5 move up with their Y6 class.
What does this mean confused ?

Next years year 6 have two teachers? Because the current year 5 teacher has moved up?

Even if the govt shit the money for the new reception teachers you still need to recruit them- where are you going to find enough?

CallmeAngelina Thu 11-Jun-20 20:44:18

And another thing - such is the nature of the work we have sent out for home learning, anyone who has had at least a halfway decent stab at it, will be OK.

BlackWhitePurple Thu 11-Jun-20 20:48:01

The obvious difficulty would be that the Y6 teacher would have to teach Reception, but apart from that I think it could work if it was done for, say, the first term. DS would love to go back with his teacher from this year.

I wonder whether TAs could move up with the class if teachers can't?

I can't think how to solve the Y6 teacher having to teach Reception issue, but it sounds like it's worth giving some thought to.

elliejjtiny Thu 11-Jun-20 20:49:39

My dc's primary school are doing that for some year groups. My 7 year old is keeping the same teacher, my 6 year old is getting my 9 year old's current teacher and my 9 year old is getting the teacher who has always taught year 5.

onemouseplace Thu 11-Jun-20 20:49:53

This is going to happen at our school for a few weeks - Reception start a few weeks after the start of term anyway so they are going to try a transition period.

dicksplash Thu 11-Jun-20 20:52:15

It would only work in maybe yr 1 to 2 and perhaps 3 to 4.

Yr 6 teachers and reception are actually quite specialists skills and yes in theory a teacher can teach either year in reality it doesn't work that way.

Also, many schools have change in staff, maternity's either going or coming back, teachers going part time, new starts and leavers which would make your idea very difficult to manage.

SachaStark Thu 11-Jun-20 20:54:25

Oh, I DO enjoy these threads every couple of days, when a poster who has clearly never worked in education reckons they’ve got the answer to the entire mess.

It’s like having Boris and Co on the forum with us!

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