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To ask how much work this house might need?

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MermaidApocalypse · 06/06/2020 16:45

www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-92438516.html

Just dreaming really... it seems cheap!

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bravotango · 06/06/2020 16:49

If it needs new windows and roof work, new electrics etc...a lot! Probably a conservation area too so expensive restrictions there. But my god what an amazing project that would be! I'm dreaming too! 😁

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Aquicknamechange2019 · 06/06/2020 16:53

Prob needs full replasterjng, damp proofing etc in addition to electrics. Ceilings may need doing too. It will be lovely when it's done though!

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OliviaBenson · 06/06/2020 16:54

Beautiful! And it doesn't need new windows! The grade 2* listing means lots of restrictions on what you can do. Love it!

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Euclid · 06/06/2020 16:55

It looks amazing. It is very badly furnished at the moment and looks more like an office. It would look wonderful if restored to its former glory.

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User167534 · 06/06/2020 16:58

It’s impossible to tell. It’s been used as offices so I imagine the wiring is sound. It looks in good structural order but would need a kitchen, bathrooms, loos etc and all the plumbing this would entail. Some walls taken down maybe.

The reason it’s cheap is likely because it’s listed and most work will be notifiable.

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TooTiredTodayOk · 06/06/2020 17:00

Grade II listed, as beautiful as it is I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.

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User167534 · 06/06/2020 17:02

It wouldn’t need new windows, although it doesn’t say if they’re double glazed. If it wasn’t and you wanted double glazing it would be very expensive because it’s grade 2 listed. I don’t see why it would need replastering either.

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LaurieFairyCake · 06/06/2020 17:09

I can't see it needs anything apart from
some copious weeding and careful moss reduction

It has a kitchenette so I'd probably replace that plus a few bathrooms

So maybe £20k - I'm a cheapskate Grin

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LaurieFairyCake · 06/06/2020 17:10

Definitely doesn't need plastering or new windows- possible restoring of windows - stripping, small bits of wood replaces etc

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LakieLady · 06/06/2020 17:11

There's what appears to be a patched-up crack in the lintel of the colonnade in the front, which could be costly. The plastering seems to need attention in a lot of the rooms, although you cold possibly get away with a skim. The sash windows will need a thorough overhaul and some will be probably need repair/replacing.

I'd want a good close look at the (superb) roof lantern above the stairwell. If that needs work it's a very specialist job, so expensive. If it hasn't been rewired to modern standards I'd want that done. There are no pics of the cellars, which makes me suspect that they may need tanking. Is the roof flat behind that parapet? That would need a thorough going over, ditto rainwater goods.

Then you'd need a kitchen, utility, some bathrooms, total redec ... it could be a complete money pit. Bear in mind that it's Grade II*, so you'd have to get every damn thing past the conservation people, and anything you do will probably cost double what it would cost in an unlisted property of similar size.

But it could be very, very beautiful....

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LakieLady · 06/06/2020 17:16

I don’t see why it would need replastering either

If you enlarge the images and look closely, some of the ceilings are very uneven. That could mean the plaster has blown, possibly due to water penetration, or, at best, there has been some poorly executed filling. In a house of that age, it's not wise to ignore it or bodge. And it would be most disrespectful to its age and beauty!

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tilder · 06/06/2020 17:20

£200k minimum. Probably end up with basement flat for rent, with 4 maybe 5 beds by the time bathrooms have gone in.

Money pit. Beautiful but don't expect to make money on it.

How much are they worth in good condition?

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Itwasntme1 · 06/06/2020 17:22

Could easily spend hundreds of thousands on that beautiful house to restore it to a home. But would be amazing.

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handbagsatdawn33 · 06/06/2020 17:25

It's a terraced house, no matter what!

For that money I'd want a detached.

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felineflutter · 06/06/2020 17:26

Picture 21 makes me break out in hives. It reminds me of 'Death on the Nile'. That section alone would cost a bloody fortune!

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Itwasntme1 · 06/06/2020 17:27

£20k wouldn’t even do the bathroom in a place like this. £20k is the budget for my kitchen in a small semi😊.

My family does renovations and £20k would be a tight budget for a very small house. This is a five bed listed building that has been used as offices.

Kitchen, bathroom, replastering, decorations, windows, doors, carpets, painter, possible roof. A lot of the office stuff will need to be ripped out, it will leave at least cosmetic issues.

The listed status adds significant costs. Total money pit - but would be beautiful.

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PerpendicularVincent · 06/06/2020 17:28

It's beautiful, can you afford the renovations? If you could I'd go for it!

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saleorbouy · 06/06/2020 18:59

Depends how mad you want to go really, some spend 15k on a kitchen other 55k so you need to work out where on the spectrum you want to aim. If its structurally sound and only internal fix then 450sqm at some where between £300-400 per m/sq would work out at £135-180k. Obviously room such as bathrooms and kitchens can cost more whereas bedrooms and receptions less per m/sq, so will balance out.
As it's in conservation area and listed external appearance will need to remain similar to original so no UPVC double glazing, timber sashes are expensive, approx 4 times the cost of UPVC if they need replacing, there are companies that restore then too. The local council building control will need to be involved in renovations and their individual interpretations of rules and regs can lead to costs increasing for normally basic jobs.
Plaster if original is likely to be lime based as opposed to the modern equivalent of cement based. If its sound no need to remove, in fact replacing with modern plaster can upset the breathability of the walls and cause damp issues. ( my neighbour in a previous Victorian terrace did this under advice from "damp experts"to his peril)
It's likely the electric can be adapted to domestic needs in most rooms except the bathrooms and kitchens where changes will need to conform the zone regs ( water proximity)
Best bet is to get a structural surveyor and quantity surveyor to give some idea of scope of work, use ones with knowledge of building gs of this age and type, also co tact the local council planning and conservation officer with your ideas to get some feedback on areas that might need attention.
Many will roll out the old chestnut of damp proofing but if the house has lasted this long it's not often necessary if the gutters and drainage are maintained and air bricks allow sufficient ventilation under timber suspended floors and kitchens, bathrooms and laundries have extraction for condensation.
Maybe look up Jeff Howell a builder who wrote for the Daily Telegraph he advocates sympathetic restoration practices.
Night the bullet, it looks like a great project. Many ups and downs but a house to be proud of is waiting for you I'm sure.....Grin

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MrsMoastyToasty · 06/06/2020 19:21

I know the area. Nightmare for parking; too close to Bristol University's main building for comfort. House is ok though.

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MermaidApocalypse · 06/06/2020 19:43

@MrsMoastyToasty I don't think I'd drive if I lived there. Just get really buff walking up and down Park Street.

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whatsnext2 · 06/06/2020 19:51

Depends on roof, that could add £80k Plus if felt perished. Can’t put in double glazing in grade ii listed round here. Have to use same materials as originally used. If concrete render will have stopped walls ‘breathing’ and might cause internal plaster problems. Suspect some serious work to be done as relatively cheap

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coronabeer23 · 06/06/2020 19:55

I think you’re looking at £250k+ to get it up the to standard a house like that needs to be

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Howmuchlongercanthislast · 06/06/2020 19:55

We have a 6 bed Edwardian semi
New wooden windows will be at least £70k- in that house well over £100k- however these may renovate- ours and been removed.

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