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Child left for 45 mins in own poo??

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ShallallalAa Sat 23-May-20 12:05:32

My dc aged 4 was left for 45 mins at school having pooed herself (I am a first response worker BTW and dp was 2 hours away)
She was left in the loo covered in her own poo. I left immediately and got there and left colleagues on the ward.
Should she have been changed or helped to clean herself up by a staff member?
She was extremely distressed by the time I got there.

Sodamncold Sat 23-May-20 12:08:22

sadly the teacher would have been prevented by law from helping your daughter remove her underwear.

Does your daughter regularly do this? If so you need to take her through what she should do if happens again and provide wet wipes

FindMy Sat 23-May-20 12:10:15

I’d be taking her out of that class.
Whoever left her like that should not be in charge of children, no humanity.

EarringsandLipstick Sat 23-May-20 12:10:17

That's awful.

Regarding the other poster's point, from my experience, this would NOT have happened in Ireland. Many children in my kids' classes have had accidents & have been helped by the teacher to train.

Your poor DD.

EarringsandLipstick Sat 23-May-20 12:10:46

*to change! Not train 🤦🏻‍♀️

Waveysnail Sat 23-May-20 12:11:24

Crikey. That awful. I know in my kids own school.they would have changed her with two members of female staff present. But there are big issues now around teachers changing children.

LemonPudding Sat 23-May-20 12:12:06

If the teacher was alone what else could she do? She couldn't leave the other children.

NickMyLipple Sat 23-May-20 12:12:10

@Sodamncold which law is that, please?

MrsJoshNavidi Sat 23-May-20 12:12:47

The more important issue is why she pooed herself.
Was she refused permission to go to the toilet?
Was she too frightened/embarrassed to ask?
Was she being bullied?
Medical issues not being catered for?

Honeybee85 Sat 23-May-20 12:12:54

What @Sodamncold says.

Also, as sad as the situation was for your DD, schools have to draw a line, if they ask staff to clean up those accidents, perhaps some parents will be less motivated to send in their DC being well potty trained. I can also imagine that teachers are not willing to clean up poo, sorry to say so!

Hopefully it won't happen again as I can imagine it was very stressful for your DD.
Wet wipes is probably a good idea.

SandieCheeks Sat 23-May-20 12:13:01

"sadly the teacher would have been prevented by law from helping your daughter remove her underwear."
What? There's no law that says this confused Who has told you there is?

This is totally unacceptable and a safeguarding issue. Of course she should have been helped to get changed!
I would complain.

x2boys Sat 23-May-20 12:13:24

What law would that be Sod? Because according to the ERIC guidelines it can be considered abuse to leave a child wet and or soiled

Ohlordysugarandspice Sat 23-May-20 12:13:29

It's not the law that teachers can't change a child. confused

Youngatheart00 Sat 23-May-20 12:13:46

Is it a regular thing for your daughter, has she been checked out for bowel problems?

Nicknacky Sat 23-May-20 12:14:55

Why do people post nonsense saying something is “law”?

MinorArcana Sat 23-May-20 12:15:36

Are teachers really prevented by law from helping children clean themselves up after that kind of accident?

DC1 had a poo accident at school last year - he was 7 at the time - and from what his teacher said when I picked him up, she’d helped clean him up.
I didn’t get told about it until the normal pick up time at the end of the school day.

England BTW.

EmeraldShamrock Sat 23-May-20 12:15:56

Awful the poor child.
@EarringsandLipstick That is true. It only happened once to DD she was fully changed into spare clothes.
Why isn't the teacher allowed to help in the UK surely they're police vetted. I would not leave any child suffer in my care.

x2boys Sat 23-May-20 12:16:01

Yes clearing up.poo is unpleasant for anyone Honey,however leaving a child in that condition is unacceptable.

Twigletfairy Sat 23-May-20 12:16:46

I would certainly be asking questions as to why this happened. I would want to know the current policy regarding accidents and why she was left in the loo on her own for so long while soiled. I suspect probably a staffing issue, but that doesn't make it acceptable

x2boys Sat 23-May-20 12:17:17

No they are not Minor,despite what some posters on here think!

insancerre Sat 23-May-20 12:17:36

There is no such law that allows a child to be left like that
It’s shocking that some people think it’s acceptable
Those teachers should be ashamed of themselves

allfalldown47 Sat 23-May-20 12:17:41

I'm stunned by this. I'm an early years teacher, my children are 3 when they start and often have accidents. My colleagues and I work on a 'whoever discovers it deals with it' basis and I certainly don't expect to not do my share.
We deal with each accident with kindness and in a way we'd want our own dc to be treated in such a situation.
We are always stocked up (by school) with lots of gloves, wipes etc
I'm honestly shocked that your dd was left this way, I'm so sorry you've both experienced this.

moveandmove Sat 23-May-20 12:17:55

I'd be looking at why your dd pooed herself. Does she have a medical condition that wasn't dealt with properly? Is there a TA in the class? If not I'm not sure it's appropriate for a teacher to leave the whole class alone to clean up your dd sadly.

allfalldown47 Sat 23-May-20 12:19:14

@Youngatheart00 so unhelpful. Young children often have accidents, particularly when away from home.
How is your comment helpful to the op?

allfalldown47 Sat 23-May-20 12:20:22

@moveandmove oh my, another one!!
She's 4! Do you actually have children or have any experience of what they are like?

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