To think I can't cope with weeks more lockdown

[YeahWhatevver]

Scotland's lockdown phasing has been released, phased relaxation on a 3 week review, starts next Thursday with phase 1.

Sticking to the rules you've got to stay in your local community (which has been explicitly called off as within 5 miles of home) until phase 3.

Means no further than 5miles from home until 9th July!!! 😭😭😭

I know it's for the greater good but fuck me, I've totally hit the wall

[SquirtleSquad]

I was thinking the same here in England weeks ago praying to be able to get out into the wide world but now every man and his dog has descended on my southern seaside town (miles of golden sand blue flag beaches) I am really angry that England wasn't restricted to 5 miles of their homes. It's unbearable. I live 500 yards from the beach and I haven't been once since Boris opened the flood gates because it's so unsafe. I've even had people knocking on my door asking to use my drive way for the day because the car parks are so rammed.

[YeahWhatevver]

Yeah, I know, I get why it's been done, would be the same here, people would flock to the seaside.

[Babdoc]

Well that’s typical of the stupidity of the SNP, isn’t it. Scotland is largely rural, and for many of us our nearest supermarket is more than 10 miles away. So we’ve been driving further than 5 miles for the whole lockdown!
I wish we’d never got that wildly expensive stupid devolved toy parliament at Holyrood.

[formerbabe]

I'm in England but I feel the same. I can't do any more home schooling...I'm finding it so hard. I'm an introvert...I can't face the thought of no time alone for months on end. I really can't take any more of this

[formerbabe]

I don't give a shit about the lockdown anymore and I don't give a shit if people flout the rules

[Echobelly]

Just remember you'll be out of it and with fewer repeated shutdowns than us in England because the Scottish govs is much more sensible ours. It's like the temptation test that's going around - if you resist the going out and about now, there'll be more going about much quicker overall.

[tabulahrasa]

“Scotland is largely rural, and for many of us our nearest supermarket is more than 10 miles away. So we’ve been driving further than 5 miles for the whole lockdown!”

The 5 miles is for exercise or leisure... food shopping isn’t those.

[formerbabe]

Just remember you'll be out of it and with fewer repeated shutdowns than us in England because the Scottish govs is much more sensible ours

Not necessarily...a second wave in summer is probably better than the second wave in winter...corona virus isn't going to disappear

[Thighmageddon]

I am in England and fully supported and abided by all of it. But I'm done, really done and I never thought I'd feel this way. I thought I'd be able to cope better, I've no small children to take care of but being furloughed and nothing to occupy my mind, then add in the depression and anxiety creeping back and it's all done an absolute mindfuck of my head now.

[PollyPelargonium52]

It's the endless uncertainty that does one's nut in isn't it.

[XDownwiththissortofthingX]

“Scotland is largely rural, and for many of us our nearest supermarket is more than 10 miles away. So we’ve been driving further than 5 miles for the whole lockdown!”

The 5 miles is for exercise or leisure... food shopping isn’t those

"Largely rural"

Yes, rural with nobody living in it. 70% of the population live in the Central Belt and can't spit without hitting a supermarket.

Facts and reality are irrelevant when certain posters are on an anti-SNP rant though. Every single thread that mentions Scotland they pop up with some sort of tiresome 'SNP BAAAAD!!!" nonsense, with the ubiquitous moan about Holyrood thrown in half the time. I can't for the life of me figure out why these craven, self-loathing Scots don't bugger off somewhere else if they hate their own country so much.

[AlternativePerspective]

And this is precisely why the government didn’t go to lockdown earlier. Because they knew that people wouldn’t stick to it at about the time the virus started to peak if they’d e.g. gone into lockdown three weeks earlier...

I haven’t seen my family or partner since March,and I’m clinically vulnerable so not anticipating to see them for the rest of the year,esp my partner as he lives 120 miles away and has to use public transport (train,tube, another train) to get here which would be a monumentally unwise move...

[AlternativePerspective]

Sorry posted too soon.And people genuinely think that you just have to suck it up, some of the comments on my other thread re the loss of humanity were unbelievable.

[TazSyd]

I think it’s fraying round the edges, people are bending the rules. As someone said above, there is only so long that people can be expected to stay in lockdown. We’re certainly not being as strict. Still washing our hands a lot and not making plans to see friends / family but we’re popping out more.

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/21/data-public-uk-relaxed-attitude-lockdown-restrictions?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[thatonehasalittlecar]

But if we’d gone into lockdown 3 weeks earlier, the peak would have come sooner. By waiting 3 weeks, we allowed the exponential growth to continue far longer and thus the disease to spread far wider.

[PumpkinPie2016]

I'm in England but also very fed up of it. We haven't travelled anywhere for day trips/exercise. I am working from home, DH is mostly at home anyway and we have a 6 year old son at home.

So essentially, nothing much has changed for us with the relaxing of rules and it's really draining now.

I'm desperate to be back at work (teacher), DS misses school and his friends, I'm fed up of our slow internet connection (we live rurally). I need a haircut and want my hairdresser to reopen. I want to be able to see my family properly.

In short, I want my life back! I know lockdown is for a reason and I have abided by it but I'm fed up now.

[bigbluebus]

I'm in England and to be honest we haven't really done anything different so far since the changes in lockdown conditions here - except maybe a longer bike ride twice a week. The only think we will be doing is fetching DS from his Uni flat 150 miles away as he has now finished his degree and needs to move back home and try and find work. We are still shopping very locally in our small town, exercising locally, have not met up with any friends in open spaces ( one or two have suggested a back garden meet up which is against the rules so we've refused) or driven off to anywhere further afield just because we can. Maybe it's just because of where we live we haven't found it necessary - although there have been plenty of stories of local beauty spots being inundated with visitors.

[CeeCeeEnnEss]

I am so over it and have been for weeks. Still sticking to the rules but if there isn’t joy on the horizon soon then I’ll be breaking them and seeing family.

[zscaler]

Well that’s typical of the stupidity of the SNP, isn’t it. Scotland is largely rural, and for many of us our nearest supermarket is more than 10 miles away.

Only 17% of Scotland’s population is rural. In England, it’s 20.7%.

Many people may live further than 5 miles from a supermarket, but that’s an essential journey. The ‘local community’ aspect relates to leisure activities, not essential journeys.

[Babdoc]

So explain the difference in infection risk from driving 5 miles in a closed car to driving 10 miles in a closed car? Zero.
And if you stick to the 2 metre social distancing at your destination, a visit to family/friends or a trip to the countryside or garden centre is similarly no extra risk. In fact much less of a risk than an indoor supermarket.
Which shows the nonsense of Sturgeon keeping garden centres shut for another week, while allowing supermarkets to sell plants indoors.
Scotland is not running behind the curve for infections - our graph exactly overlaps the English one, just with a flatter shape peak. So there is no justification for delaying our release from lockdown.
The SNP lied about the outbreak at the Nike conference in Edinburgh, and failed to warn or contact trace the tour guides, kilt fitters and fellow guests who were exposed. That was our “ground zero”, not the much later case in Tayside.

[zscaler]

I’m not trying to defend all the actions of the SNP here. I’m not an SNP voter. I was just correcting your massive mischaracterisation of Scotland because I thought it was silly to let it stand.

As it happens, I think England shows exactly why we’re being encouraged to stay in our communities. Beauty spots and tourist destinations have been flooded with visitors, making it virtually impossible to maintain social distance and making life much harder for the people who live their. If the SNP told people they could now drive anywhere for their leisure, you know fine well that places like St Andrews, Loch Lomond and Pitlochry would be overrun with visitors.

I don’t think anybody’s life is going to be ruined because they have to wait another week for garden centres to open. They’re different to plants being sold in supermarkets because people have to go to supermarkets for food anyway. Once they’re there it doesn’t matter if they pick up plants as well as food. A garden centre is a separate trip, therefore leading to more opportunities for exposure.

You know fine well that not everything can open at once. A staggered approach is sensible. And since people will always push the rules further than they strictly allow, if the rules are relaxed too much it will inevitably lead to people making decisions which are dangerous.

I agree that the cover up over the Nike conference was unacceptable, and I have been glad to see the efforts of Scottish Labour in holding the SNP to account for this. This is a much more worthy concern that the question of whether garden centres open this week or next.