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To think the Chinese government have horrendous audacity..

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Roostersmum2 · 18/05/2020 16:17

In summary if you don't want to read the link to read the link:

A coalition of 122 countries are now supporting Australia's call for an independent probe to investigate the causes of the coronavirus pandemic that started in Wuhan, China.

Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison has "felt the wrath" of Beijing, after China then threatened to decimate his country's economy unless the inquiry initiative is dropped.

The need for an inquiry will be voted on by 194 nations at the World Health Assembly on Tuesday and China has increased its belligerent threats towards Australia with a suggestion they may place a crippling tariff on barley exports

How dare they?

www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/world/1283632/China-coronavirus-inquiry-australia-scott-morrison-revenge-122-nations-probe-wuhan/amp

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Dreamersandwishers · 18/05/2020 16:24

Totally with you OP.
Surely the main purpose of the inquiry is to understand so we have better chances in the future.
I am not one for conspiracy theories but the least we are all owed is an explanation as to how on Earth this happened. Something stinks.

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Roostersmum2 · 18/05/2020 16:34

Absolutely.

I'm also not one for conspiracy theories but they clearly don't want people sniffing about and one has to wonder why that is, if everything they've said has been true.

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Iwalkinmyclothing · 18/05/2020 16:36

Like ours would be any different. The US would be even worse.

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Roostersmum2 · 18/05/2020 16:36

They've gone straight onto the defensive and don't care for the fact it is in the world's best interests to learn and understand about this.

It's pretty much "we're sorted now, mind your business"

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Summerof699 · 18/05/2020 16:36

We should be boycotting Chinese goods, it is clearly a very corrupt government.

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Roostersmum2 · 18/05/2020 16:37

But why?

What is wrong with an enquiry into something as serious as this? It should be done as standard.

Instead of threatening other countries they should be clear and outline why exactly it is they don't want the inquiry.

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Roostersmum2 · 18/05/2020 16:38

Cross posted summer, my question of why was to iwalk

I agree to the boycotting, although I think that would leave us in a pretty shit position given how we source so much from China

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user1471565182 · 18/05/2020 16:43

The wet markets already reopened weeks ago.

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PicsInRed · 18/05/2020 16:48

Yeah, pretty much OP. It's disgraceful.

But that's been the case for years. Its really only just getting a lot of airtime here now, due to coronavirus. Google the Xinjiang concentration camps for more info. Hmm

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DamnYankee · 18/05/2020 16:53

one has to wonder why that is, if everything they've said has been true

Because the are communists and can't appear to be out of control or wrong in any way.

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Boudicabooandbulldogs · 18/05/2020 16:57

I agree, you would have thought they could at least be open to an enquiry as it helps everyone involved.
Are they sorted though? if they are, then again shouldn’t they want others to look at how they managed so effectively. Unless they did it using dubious methods.
I think China has appalling human rights and its attitude towards animals is disgusting. It would further the greater public opinion if the Chinese government cooperated with this enquiry.

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DioneTheDiabolist · 18/05/2020 17:00

China is really powerful and not adverse to throwing its weight around. This comes as no surprise to me.🤷‍♀️

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RandomLondoner · 18/05/2020 17:02

I can entirely understand the Chinese being outraged and angry at the proposed investigation. It is insulting in multiple ways. Their threats to retaliate are wrong though.


(Having now read the article, it's actually worse from their point of view than I assumed. A neutral non-political enquiry into the origins of the virus would be bad enough, but alleged wrongdoing by the Chinese government is a specific target for the enquiry.)

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lowlandLucky · 18/05/2020 17:02

Smiling knives

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MonsteraCheeseplant · 18/05/2020 17:02

Yeah i'm not surprised either but i'm hoping this is forcing other countries to change their reliance on China.

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SeriouslySoDoneIn · 18/05/2020 17:06

Something definitely needs to be done about the Chinese government and the worlds reliance on China as a whole. The lives lost due to coronavirus are squarely on China’s shoulders and they need to take some responsibility for that. If not, they need to face severe sanctions until they do.

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Roostersmum2 · 18/05/2020 17:17

I saw a woman get piled on in a Facebook group for daring to say "we have China to blame for all of this suffering"

She was attacked and called racist.

I pointed out that she clearly wasn't blaming Chinese people in general, but the CCP, and echoed that yes they are to blame.

I was then attacked and banned myself.

It's as though the CCP is above reproach, and these idiots calling everybody racist for holding them accountable are British.

Strangely enough, what these people throwing the racism card about probably don't know, is that Chinese civilians themselves have expressed suspicion and anger at how their leaders have handled things.

Their government are hugely to blame, they tried to cover it up by threatening their HCP's for goodness sake.

I appreciate other leaders haven't handled this perfectly, such as ours and most definitely Trump, but that doesn't remove blame from China.

I always have to add a disclaimer when I speak about this, so just to be clear I'm not racist xenophobic or have contempt for Chinese people. I'm pissed off with their government Sad

I also agree that we (and other countries) need to seriously reassess our current reliability on them.

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Mucklowe · 18/05/2020 17:17

It was all fun and games when we were happy to accept China's cheap goods. Our obsession with consumerism has placed us firmly in China's lap. Tough shit. We've walked into this.

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DamnYankee · 18/05/2020 17:29

*They are communists

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Roostersmum2 · 18/05/2020 17:34

If a portion of the countries backing the inquiry took the stance of no longer wanting to do business with them that could only be a positive thing?

Can they really cripple everybody?

They cannot be trusted. They treat their own people like shit and have not one iota of regard for the rest of us.

I saw videos from inside their lockdown, doors to apartment complexes were being welded shut to stop anybody getting in and out Sad

I don't want to support a country that does these things. I hope large businesses feel the same.

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Mummyoflittledragon · 18/05/2020 17:51

If ever country affected boycotted China, effectively they’d have to comply. However, what would we do in the meantime? And what would the eventual Chinese retaliation be? Even if globally together a conglomerate of countries are stronger than China, any boycott will cause untold damage to out economy.

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Sandybval · 18/05/2020 17:53

Like ours would be any different.

I'm sure it would seen as though we haven't been ground zero for any pandemics.

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EarringsandLipstick · 18/05/2020 17:55

Are you for real with this comment, OP?

I saw a woman get piled on in a Facebook group for daring to say "we have China to blame for all of this suffering"

If the woman said this, then absolutely she deserved to be called out on it.

There's a very small gap between this & Trump's 'it's the China virus'

Yes, plenty to criticise the Chinese government for, no difficult with that, but the situation is far more nuanced than you or your quoted woman suggests. We can't yet be clear about the origins of the virus and in fact, a pandemic was on the cards one way or another, to a large extent due to population growth & close mammal contact (hence suggestion of 'wet markets' being to blame)

See: www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-will-result-in-profound-changes-to-society-virologist-warns-1.4227379%3Fmode%3Damp

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Justanotherlurker · 18/05/2020 17:56

It was all fun and games when we were happy to accept China's cheap goods. Our obsession with consumerism has placed us firmly in China's lap. Tough shit. We've walked into this.

Imagine smug posting whilst posting from a laptop/phone/tablet......

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EarringsandLipstick · 18/05/2020 17:57

I saw videos from inside their lockdown, doors to apartment complexes were being welded shut to stop anybody getting in and out

That's how they suppressed it OP. Yes it's hard for us in Western democracies to fathom.

I'm not sure about welding shut, but yes, they absolutely prevented anyone even leaving their apartments, for any reason. You made a call to a designated number, your door was then opened for eg food delivery or to repair something. Very harsh, but the way apartment complexes are set up there. It seems unthinkable to us as we live so differently.

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