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What the hell does this mean?

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PJPanther Tue 12-May-20 16:28:47

More of a WWYD than AIBU.

Completing manadatory government sign in online and instead of sex the question asked is gender (give me strength) BUT the options available are as follows;
Male
Female
Prefer not to say
Prefer to Self-Describe

They are in that order with that exact weirdness of capitalisation/punctuation.

I am leaning towards Self-Describe except it is all tick box and there is no place to write one's description.

AIBU to want somewhere to write how I describe myself in the absence of an actual definitive sex tick box?

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Pelleas Tue 12-May-20 16:47:33

Just tick the 'self describe' option if none of the others fit. They can contact you if they need to know what your self-description is.

AvoidingRealHumans Tue 12-May-20 17:56:58

I would tick male or female depending on what I was 🤷🏼‍♀️ could tick prefer not to say if I was feeling difficult. I don't understand what is meant by self describe confused

FlamingoAndJohn Tue 12-May-20 18:00:31

I have no problem with the first three options but what does the last one mean and how is it different to prefer not to say.

PlanDeRaccordement Tue 12-May-20 18:00:36

If the question was gender instead of sex, I’d personally, for me, tick prefer not to say.

If the question is for sex, I’d tick female

The self-describe is useless without a fill in box

zscaler Tue 12-May-20 18:00:55

It’s a catch-all term for people who aren’t male or female (agender, gender fluid, nonbinary etc.)

If one of those applies to you, use that box. If you’re male or female, use whichever of those is appropriate. If you prefer not to say, use that box.

senua Tue 12-May-20 18:08:24

I usually tick the 'prefer not to say' and then find the free-type comments box to have a rant about sex v. gender.

In this case I think that 'prefer not to say' is the answer. 'Prefer to Self-Describe' implies that you are buying into the charade.

LochJessMonster Tue 12-May-20 18:10:40

Don’t be that person

Do you identify as
Male
Female
Non binary /gender fluid
Or would you prefer not to say.

It’s really not that difficult.

InfiniteSheldon Tue 12-May-20 18:21:27

My sex is female I don't have a gender

Livelovebehappy Tue 12-May-20 18:22:28

I really couldn’t imagine giving something like this too much headspace. Guess whatever you tick isn’t probably even going to be read, or make any difference to the end result of completing the form?

LochJessMonster Tue 12-May-20 18:23:56

@InfiniteSheldon if you don’t identity with a gender then you put self describe. If you don’t wish to say, you put prefer not to say.

stophuggingme Tue 12-May-20 18:24:10

Is this for real?

Only you know what the answer really is anyway hmm

BritWifeinUSA Tue 12-May-20 18:27:24

If “prefer not to say” is an answer then the question is obviously not important. It clearly doesn’t matter to them what gender anyone puts on the form if an acceptable answer is “pass”. So why do they bother with the question?

opticaldelusion Tue 12-May-20 18:44:30

Literally no one gives a fuck. It's just data for data's sake. Tick all four.

MintyMabel Tue 12-May-20 18:45:12

So tick prefer not to say and move on.

MadamBatty Tue 12-May-20 18:46:48

i have no gender. i am of the female sex

Likethebattle Tue 12-May-20 19:08:32

Did people start saying gender as they were a bit too genteel to say Sex? I can imagine my mil doing this.

JemimaPuddleCat Tue 12-May-20 19:20:39

I did a survey with these options earlier today - from the Child Poverty Action Group Scotland.

InfiniteSheldon Tue 12-May-20 19:26:55

Nope self describe isn't right my biology determines my sex not my opinions

jellyfrizz Tue 12-May-20 19:27:13

What is the point of collecting information about gender identity though? Why is that useful in any way? Sex, or gender reassignment yes, as they are protected characteristics and public organisations have a duty to monitor them but gender as in self-description rather than actual sex?

Goatinthegarden Tue 12-May-20 19:31:27

But, they didn’t ask what your sex is. They asked what your gender is.

Therefore, they probably don’t care about your biology.

Clymene Tue 12-May-20 19:38:27

What's the point in the question then @Goatinthegarden?

LochJessMonster Tue 12-May-20 19:44:50

Nope self describe isn't right my biology determines my sex not my opinions but they didn’t ask about your sex. They asked about your gender which is determined by opinion.
In your opinion, are you male, female, neither or other?

And its standard to gather this information for analysis of demographics.

IcyWind Tue 12-May-20 19:48:16

Tick prefer not to say

Frlrlrubert Tue 12-May-20 19:48:22

It's a bit like being asked for religion when you're an Atheist and the options being

Christian
Muslim
Prefer not to say
Other faith

You want to say 'none' but it doesn't quite fit anywhere.

I'd probably go with 'prefer not to say' if there was no free text box.

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