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To be so angry at the Chinese government

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HildegardeCrowe Sun 12-Apr-20 09:05:23

Because they didn’t shut the wet markets down permanently after SARS so another pandemic was inevitable. The rest of the world is now putting pressure on China to end it’s wildlife trade but this won’t be easy. Most of the world is in lockdown because of this trade and it’s so depressing to think history will repeat itself if China doesn’t get its act together.

The more I learn about how the Chinese abuse wild animals the angrier I get - the latest thing I read about is how they make the lives of bears a misery by extracting their bile.

Surely this is a PR disaster for China?

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TheDailyCarbuncle Sun 12-Apr-20 09:11:07

You can be angry at the Chinese government as long as the Irish people can be angry at the British government for killing almost the entire population then splitting up the country causing horrendous and deadly conflict that has only been stopped by an agreement which the British people have threatened via the total nonsense that is Brexit.

Not closing markets vs actively withholding food and permanently destabilising a region for very little gain. Hard contest.

PaperFlowers4 Sun 12-Apr-20 09:15:19

I’m angry that China had a chance to stop the virus in its tracks when that doctor first sounded the alarm but instead the government reprimanded him for “spreading rumours”. China is basically a dystopia at this point.

GoFiguire Sun 12-Apr-20 09:17:45

Should we be angry at gardeners for using compost made out of peat which has adverse effects on the climate, and destroys valuable ecosystems? Many rare and endangered species live in and around peat bogs and these are having their way of life threatened.

ImFreeToDoWhatIWant Sun 12-Apr-20 09:18:38

I'm surprised that's anyone's surprised! What did you think the Chinese govt would do?! Capitulate? It's a communist dictatorship ffs!

araiwa Sun 12-Apr-20 09:19:01

-5 demerit points

DivGirl Sun 12-Apr-20 09:20:41

They still have concentration camps, I'd be more pissed off about that.

HildegardeCrowe Sun 12-Apr-20 09:20:44

Why do people seem to find the need to swear? Please be polite.

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Emmagen Sun 12-Apr-20 09:22:44

@TheDailyCarbuncle that makes no sense. Historically and probably even currently to an extent the British interactions with Ireland have been shameful. A lot of British history is shameful. What if I suggested that you shouldn't be angry about any of that because Britain was heavily involved in the slave trade which is arguably worse? It makes no sense, bad things are not a competition one bad thing doesn't cancel out other bad things.

OP yes I hope this is a wake up call for China, I hope they start to realise how negatively most of the world views their treatment of animals. I hope there are changes.

TheDailyCarbuncle Sun 12-Apr-20 09:23:15

One person wrote ffs. Get over yourself.

sunfloweryy Sun 12-Apr-20 09:23:22

I very much agree with you on this.

China wants to have its cake and eat it too. If it is going to be a superpower and allow literally millions of its citizens to go abroad then it has a responsibility to the rest of the world to update its animal welfare standards so diseases like this are less likely to originate.

Lots of people will say it’s racist, other countries have their problems etc but there’s really no excuse for it anymore.

PoopyPanda Sun 12-Apr-20 09:24:02

Why do people seem to find the need to swear? Please be polite.

I don’t think Mumsnet is the place for you if you can’t cope with a bit of swearing...

TheDailyCarbuncle Sun 12-Apr-20 09:24:46

My point @Emmagen is that people in the UK seem to like to engage in a little light racism by implying other countries are so backward and wrong when their own country has an absolutely appalling track record all over the world, not just of things like failing to shut markets, but of actively destroying other countries.

plunkplunkfizz Sun 12-Apr-20 09:24:52

If you can’t stand to read a swear word you’d be better not posting in AIBU. You might be best to get the thread taken down or moved because even posts agreeing with you will have expletives (unless of course it’s only sweary posts that disagree with you that you object to).

Reginabambina Sun 12-Apr-20 09:24:53

This could just as easily happened in a pig farm. Like it did in 2009. I’d be more concerned about their continued practice of murdering their own citizens. Just saying.

PlanDeRaccordement Sun 12-Apr-20 09:26:31

Pandemics are inevitable anyway. At any one time we have a dozen epidemics happening around the world and any one of them could break containment efforts and start a pandemic. New viruses are more likely to become a pandemic than a known disease because we lose time identifying it.

Besides the U.K. trades in wildlife and eats game meat too. It was more bad luck and dodgy hygiene that caused this outbreak.

Playing the blame game doesn’t help anyone. It would discourage people from raising the alarm in future. The Spanish flu is an example of that. The Spanish flu did not originate in Spain but in Kansas, USA. But the US kept quiet and kept shipping sick soldiers to the front in WWI. The Spanish were the first to raise the alarm...and now History thinks it was a flu that started in Spain.

Getting angry towards the country that raises the alarm is counter productive. We should be thanking China.

VivienScott Sun 12-Apr-20 09:26:55

There was an article somewhere about how the economics of this plays completely into the hands of the Chinese. Where pooorer countries get loans from China to build infrastructure that they will be unable to service with a global recession, China takes control of the asset meaning they are exerting their global control far and wide. Not good.

pinkazing Sun 12-Apr-20 09:27:27

No country is innocent, all the major players have horrible histories full of atrocities.

JasonPollack Sun 12-Apr-20 09:28:49

Lol.

China's government protect Chinese interests.

Be angry at Boris, who ignored this crisis until it was way too late. Literally refused to take it seriously to the point that he got infected.

daisypond Sun 12-Apr-20 09:30:29

the latest thing I read about is how they make the lives of bears a misery by extracting their bile.
That’s been going on for many years, unfortunately. It’s not a new thing.

bobstersmum Sun 12-Apr-20 09:30:45

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EdersonsSmileyTattoo Sun 12-Apr-20 09:32:13

I hope this is a massive wake up call for China in all aspects, wet markets, human rights abuses etc.

They had the opportunity to stop this shitshow in its tracks but lies about it and bollocked the Dr who blew the whistle.

ShanghaiDiva Sun 12-Apr-20 09:34:13

bobstersmum
No need for the racist comments.

JasonPollack Sun 12-Apr-20 09:34:24

We've removed this post as it quotes a previously deleted comment.

ShanghaiDiva Sun 12-Apr-20 09:34:58

Indeed.

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