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In hoping this is the end of cruises?

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nakedavengerreturns Wed 01-Apr-20 11:15:40

Carnival Cruises are in the shit following the Pandemic. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/mar/31/carnival-cruises-seeks-6bn-funding-amid-coronavirus-fallout?CMP=ShareAndroidAppp_Facebook

AIBU in hoping this is the end of these disgusting floating effluent and
emission producing shit heaps that sully our global waters?

user1511042793 Wed 01-Apr-20 11:17:19

Wow just wow. Please go and find something useful to say or do.

cologne4711 Wed 01-Apr-20 11:18:28

Agree OP, they are so bad for the environment. The smaller boats are ok but the huge mega-ships are a disgrace.

PeterPanGoesWrong Wed 01-Apr-20 11:19:02

biscuit

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor Wed 01-Apr-20 11:20:00

They're worse than planes?

paap1975 Wed 01-Apr-20 11:20:17

Maybe give a thought to those who rely on their jobs to feed and educate their families.
How would you feel if someone suddenly decided that wiping out your sector of working was a good thing?

LochJessMonster Wed 01-Apr-20 11:20:36

My mother doesn’t fly (scared) so cruises are a way for her to travel and get a holiday.

SerenDippitty Wed 01-Apr-20 11:20:41

biscuit

HotelBravo Wed 01-Apr-20 11:21:24

I sort of agree, but think maybe that if people set off from and returned to their country of origin it might be better? Surely a ship full of people is better than the same number flying??

nakedavengerreturns Wed 01-Apr-20 11:22:16

Cruise brands run by Carnival Corporation emitted 10 times more cancer-causing gases in Europe than all of the continent’s passenger vehicles combined

https://amp.ft.com/content/8bceef94-86cd-11e9-a028-86cea8523dc2

iVampire Wed 01-Apr-20 11:25:12

I think there will be a fairly major re-set of how people think about leisure travel. Not all existing firms will survive, and I think large ship cruises could well be vulnerable to change in preferences

But the overall demand for holidays is likely to recover, and those people who not longer cruise will holiday elsewhere and jobs will change accordingly

BigChocFrenzy Wed 01-Apr-20 11:26:33

Well, I wish they would be banned for the next couple of years

They are floating Petri dishes at the best of times

Currently they are like a fleet of Typhoid Mary's, cruising around the world and bringing infections with them,
taking up stretched resources of countries where they beg for help

very selfish

RestYourHead Wed 01-Apr-20 11:28:49

I have insider info on this. DH works for one of the cruise companies. They are indeed in the shit and may well not recover. They have taken a huge financial hit and are not planning ahead with any coherent plans to recover. DH has been saying for some time now that cruises will soon become something that is thought badly of, for environmental reasons. This crisis may well just speed up that process.
Luckily for us DH has another non cruise related job to go to. Not so lucky for those working in the industry, especially the thousands of crew currently floating around on ships with nowhere to dock and no job.

JustStayAtHome Wed 01-Apr-20 11:29:08

If that’s the case with emissions etc then I agree with you op

This is the chance for a global reassessment

Snoopysimaginaryfriend Wed 01-Apr-20 11:30:23

Are you hoping ski resorts close as well then? They seem to have been the real breeding grounds for European cases of Covid.

LaurieMarlow Wed 01-Apr-20 11:31:52

I think they are one of the most likely casualties, yes.

nakedavengerreturns Wed 01-Apr-20 11:33:16

I live in NZ. These hulking great cruise ships think it's totally fine to come storming in with 1000 passengers aboard and park up in some of the most beautiful, unspoilt landscapes on earth. At the same time disgorging effluent into fjords with endangered or endemic species whilst also disgorging their 1000 humans into pleasure boats with their packed lunches that get chucked into the sea or dumped at the waters edge.

This picture of beautiful and, what was unspoiled Milford sound is sickening.

LaurieMarlow Wed 01-Apr-20 11:34:17

They seem to have been the real breeding grounds for European cases of Covid.

That’s just a time of year thing. If it was summer it would have been package holiday apartments.

It’s the contained nature of cruises that’s the problem. There’s no escape.

sHREDDIES19 Wed 01-Apr-20 11:34:34

I'm also hoping that we will all reassess our travel options in the future. Do we really need to fly so often for business trips given that virtual options are so good/free/environmentally friendly? Things we have in the past maintained to be 'essential' have actually turned out to be not so. Also I hope businesses will enable WFH more freely now they see that people can be productive at home.

CodenameVillanelle Wed 01-Apr-20 11:34:40

People see cruises as a more eco friendly way to travel than planes but they are not. Ships use a certain type of oil that is too dirty to use anywhere else and cause some of the worst pollution especially in port cities.

Tourism is a wonderful industry in many ways and our economies will suffer without it but it's not cost free. This virus has just highlighted how harmful many forms of global travel can be. We do need to rethink how we travel, and this crisis has forced that to happen. It will cost jobs - but this will be a global recession, many sectors will be damaged, not just travel.

JanewaysBun Wed 01-Apr-20 11:34:49

Well considering they all register out of Malta/small Caribbean islands they don't really deserve funding. Also they are really annoying when they offload their 2k plus passengers onto tiny ports.

Sirzy Wed 01-Apr-20 11:35:53

The new ships have actually been designed with cleaner fuel as their fuel source. Obviously it will take time for it to come into use fully though.

Ds isn’t allowed to fly so for us cruises are the best way for him to be able to see some of the world

CathyorClaire Wed 01-Apr-20 11:41:35

Cruises have long been high on my list of holidays never to take. I've never seen the appeal of travelling in a floating plague pit but accept that others enjoy them. They're hugely popular. They might take a hit until later this year but they won't be going away.

worriedmama1980 Wed 01-Apr-20 11:44:27

We were talking about this, the way cruise ship passengers have been treated would absolutely make me reconsider ever getting on one. I'd be very surprised if they didn't suffer irreversible damage.

This situation with Covid 19 may resolve, but in reality it's just highlighted that in situations like this countries can and will refuse to offer help to passengers, and you are incredibly vulnerable.

I think there are a number of industries like aviation and cruise ships that should have been about to see a day of reckoning because of unsustainable climate emissions and I hope we can use this as an opportunity to bring that forward, but provide proper support to staff who need help to retrain/find other industries.

I looked into cruises a few years ago, thinking it could be a good way of travel with a small child and potentially less harmful than flying. Couldn't believe the level of damage they do, carbon, pollution, and lots of cities say they are incredibly harmful for tourism as they bring no boost to people staying, often don't even eat in places they're visiting, just come, cause damage and leave.

Rockbird Wed 01-Apr-20 11:45:38

My family as a whole have been on many many many cruises and crossings and never picked up so much as a sneeze. My parents live for their cruises. I'm not a great sailor so not so keen when they move but enjoy being on them. So don't worry, we'll keep Cunard in business for a long time yet.

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