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To think that science teacher saying that a female's 'prime' is at 18 to a year 11 class is out of order?

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littlemissbumshine Fri 21-Feb-20 19:35:30

DD came back today and her friend came over, they both came back talking about how shocked they were at their (30s male) science teacher.

Apparently they got onto the topic of puberty and the boys were chiming in with the usual stuff about boobs and ageing and the teacher said that it's a scientific fact that a female's prime is at 18 years of age...

I think it's disgusting. Especially when the class already has had problems with sexism (supposedly being tackled) after year 10 joiners have tipped the small class from being 9 boys and 6 girls, to 16 boys and 4 girls.

Rootd Fri 21-Feb-20 19:36:55

Surely he meant from a reproductive standpoint?

Bezalelle Fri 21-Feb-20 19:38:17

I think he's right, from a scientific viewpoint.

PickleMyPepper Fri 21-Feb-20 19:40:00

Scientific fact is disgusting? Would you rather he'd lied?

littlemissbumshine Fri 21-Feb-20 19:40:37

Sorry! I missed it out because I was typing whilst watching telly, he said prime attractiveness (if that's the word).

Jess827 Fri 21-Feb-20 19:40:51

Did he mean biologically for reproduction? (I.e. ability and health of the mother)

I actually thought it was younger, I seem to remember Romeo & Juliet being mentioned at school (... Which led into a history lesson about marriage age in other eras, and how fit mentally a set of early teens might be)

I guess what I'm saying is, do you understand the context under which it was discussed?

It can be a useful talking point to frame science, PSE or history.. or he might just be a creep. Who knows? But it's not necessarily inappropriate.

IamChipmunk Fri 21-Feb-20 19:40:53

I teach health and social care, we talk about the life stages and reproduction and menopause, if he is being scientifically correct where is the issue?

Ahitsallover Fri 21-Feb-20 19:40:57

I remember being told this when I did biology A level 30 years ago. In that case they were referring to 'reproductive prime age'. The teacher was a 20 something year old woman. I presume your DDs teacher meant the same.

littlemissbumshine Fri 21-Feb-20 19:41:04

I thought it was implied by just the word prime

LucilleBluth Fri 21-Feb-20 19:41:09

Prime for what?

LooseGoose29 Fri 21-Feb-20 19:42:19

I think in a science context ie for reproductive purposes, this is a fact I was taught at school.
I don't think it is a feminist issue - maybe it is but I don't feel it is.
If it were a business lesson or a citizenship lesson I could see your point. But biologically women are in their reproductive prime late teens that does not mean anyone is advocating teenage motherhood rather than education/careers so I don't have a problem with the statement.

SewItGoes Fri 21-Feb-20 19:42:28

What did he say was the male's prime, or did that not come up? I hope he added that the physical reproductive prime isn't he only factor to consider when it comes to the optimal time to have a child.

Mulledwineinajug Fri 21-Feb-20 19:42:51

Sorry, I think he’s right!

CherryPavlova Fri 21-Feb-20 19:43:21

My daughters school had a fertility talk from Robert Winston. He would support the teacher but acknowledged that in a modern world girls needed to establish careers first and twenty three was a better age to think about babies.

Jess827 Fri 21-Feb-20 19:43:21

he said prime attractiveness

Again, was he talking about gene theory / survival of the species in terms of mate attraction?

I can't see how a teacher would raise it other than in a Darwin / biology situation if it's a science teacher.

ohnooutofdateham Fri 21-Feb-20 19:43:56

He said 'prime attractiveness' ? I'm not sure I believe that to be honest.

Iloveknockknockjokes Fri 21-Feb-20 19:44:17

Sexist bull shit. Your DD should ask which scientific publications he is referring to and let us know tomorrow.

ohnooutofdateham Fri 21-Feb-20 19:44:16

Although for most people it's probably true.

Tvtvtv Fri 21-Feb-20 19:45:41

I always thought 22 was the biological peak for a woman and the most ‘attractive’ she’ll be to a male for the first reason.

Same to do with spotty skin - something to do with reproductive abilities too.

AhoyMrBeaver Fri 21-Feb-20 19:45:55

I don't think he would have been talking about 'attractiveness'. Fertility and physical strength perhaps.

catanddogmake6 Fri 21-Feb-20 19:46:09

Not helpful but all I thought was I don’t think the fictional Jean Brodie would agree. Now I have “Girls, I’m in my prime” in a Scottish accent by Maggie Smith going round my head. Tell the science department to take it up with the English department.

Socalm Fri 21-Feb-20 19:46:34

What on earth is scientific about "prime" age? If it means lowest risk of birth defects that would be 20s anyway (?). But it sounds as if he meant attractiveness. He has no reason to mention that in a science class! Ew.

SewItGoes Fri 21-Feb-20 19:47:50

Ah, just seen update. Prime attractiveness? Well, that might also be true, most of the time, but it sounds a bit... confused

He should be more careful to avoid coming across as a creep.

Waveysnail Fri 21-Feb-20 19:49:45

Isn't 18 biological prime age for woman to reproduce hence probably attraction from biological standpoint

LooseGoose29 Fri 21-Feb-20 19:50:20

@socalm
I think I was taught (although going back 20 years) prime refers to most likely to have a healthy pregnancy with a positive outcome with minimum effect on ongoing maternal health.

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