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Lib Dems - is this even legal?

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WowLibDemLies Tue 10-Dec-19 22:58:53

Got this propaganda through the door today. Looks like it's from labour, has Alastair Campbell's name attached.

Yet only after reading it several times and discussing with my DH did I realise it was Lib Dem propoganda.

How can this be within the rules?

I am shocked the lib Dems are allowed to do this? It looks like a legit labour plea. It's not.

This is really Bellow the belt lib Dems.

Can the papers pick up on this please and do something? This should not be allowed, surely?

WowLibDemLies Tue 10-Dec-19 23:01:08

Not sure what's happened to my spelling there! Or why the typos!! Sorry!

Thethiniceofanewday Tue 10-Dec-19 23:01:08

Isn’t Campbell backing tactical voting though? I doubt the Lib Dema would use his name and pic like that without his permission.

ViaSacra Tue 10-Dec-19 23:01:09

Eh? It’s quite clearly a Lib Dem mailer... it has no Labour branding at all and that isn’t even the Labour colour at the top - it looks orange, not red.

ViaSacra Tue 10-Dec-19 23:02:03

Actually, who does it say paid for it - it will say at the bottom.

WowLibDemLies Tue 10-Dec-19 23:02:10

Well he's defected to the lib Dems now. It's a lib Dems leaflet but made to look like it's fr labour asking you to vote tactically. Surely that cant be ok?

Thethiniceofanewday Tue 10-Dec-19 23:04:01

The legal requirement is that somewhere on the letter there must be an ‘imprint’ that says which campaign the leaflet has come from. I got a Tory fake newspaper the other day - in red, thought it was from labour until I realised all the stories were about getting Brexit done!

nancy75 Tue 10-Dec-19 23:04:24

If you thought it was Labour it’s more of an own goal than anything else, if you read it, liked it & went on to vote Labour because of it then it’s hardly good advertising for the Lib Dems!

WowLibDemLies Tue 10-Dec-19 23:04:42

It's the camera that makes it look orange. It is very red in reall life. It's seriously meant to look like it's from the labour party, but it's not. In very fine print at the bottom, it says 'published on behalf of the liberal democrats'

AnchorDownDeepBreath Tue 10-Dec-19 23:05:48

I've had these from the Lib Dem's, Tories and Labour this election.

I've never had so much post... and it's all misleading crap.

WowLibDemLies Tue 10-Dec-19 23:06:34

Oh my goodness my spelling!! What is going on!! 'real' with one 'l' not two!!!

Thethiniceofanewday Tue 10-Dec-19 23:06:49

But what’s the problem? Why are you so angry about it? It’s a message that needs to be read by Labour voters so they’ve put a red stripe on it. Are you a Labour voter feeling deceived?

minipie Tue 10-Dec-19 23:08:04

Why does it make a difference?

Either you agree with what’s in it or you don’t. Would you agree if it came from Labour but disagree if it came from Lib Dem? confused

WowLibDemLies Tue 10-Dec-19 23:08:58

Yes! Surely it can't be legal to pass your propoganda off as someone else's? This election has been the very worst yet for deceit and under-handedness, and I'm fed up!

VanyaHargreeves Tue 10-Dec-19 23:09:06

Random merail to be smug and say I've had none of these this time as I live in a block of flats with a locked security entrance. Canvassers can't get in. Absolute bliss.

Thethiniceofanewday Tue 10-Dec-19 23:09:11

There was a Tory minister on the news today trying to argue that leaflets in favour of tactical voting should be banned, because they know it’s the only thing left that can hurt their chances of winning.

WowLibDemLies Tue 10-Dec-19 23:10:26

minipie - it's the fact that the lib Dems are pretending to be labour that's frustrating!

BudgieHammockBananaSmuggler Tue 10-Dec-19 23:12:37

It’s hard to understand why you are angry about this when there is so much propaganda, deception and outright lies on all sides. I think it is pretty clear who has produced the leaflet if that even matters. Not exactly going to excite the tabloid hacks I’m afraid.

TheHeathenOfSuburbia Tue 10-Dec-19 23:13:08

They haven't nicked any of the Labour fonts, logos or anything so seems ok?

I mean, you see Alistair Campbell and you think, 'Labour', and that's what they're aiming for obvs, but there's no deceptive branding or anything on there.

Did they manage to add a helpful bar chart?!

Thethiniceofanewday Tue 10-Dec-19 23:13:25

No they aren’t. If they were pretending to be Labour it would have a Labour logo on it and they wouldn’t have put their imprint on it. It’s a perfectly legitimate campaign message urging Labour-leaning voters to think about voting tactically to beat the Tory. You can bet Labour will be doing something similar where they need to squeeze the Lib Dem vote. If you want to get wound up about something the Lib Dems are doing their bar charts are a lot sketchier!

Thethiniceofanewday Tue 10-Dec-19 23:13:50

Ha! x-post with heathen!

WowLibDemLies Tue 10-Dec-19 23:15:02

Budgie - did you really read it and know straight away it was from the lib Dems (or would you have if my post title hadn't given that away!)? It looked a lot like a labour leaflet the first two times I read it!

Thethiniceofanewday Tue 10-Dec-19 23:15:41

Do you have a problem with the idea of tactical voting?

nancy75 Tue 10-Dec-19 23:16:09

Why would they pretend to be Labour? They don’t want you to vote Labour they want you to vote Lib Dem!

WowLibDemLies Tue 10-Dec-19 23:16:39

No problem with tactical voting, bit I have a problem with lib Dems pretending to be labour by using Alastair campbell and red branding

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