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To think it's odd when elderly parents vote for things that adversely affect their children and grandchildren?

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malificent7 Tue 10-Dec-19 07:53:57

Take Brexit and people who lost their jobs as a result...just why?
And my dad. I tried explaining that the Tories cut the NHS bursary so now i will be 60, 000 in debt when i graduate and he just sai " so what?" and " labour brought in the student loan." Yes dad...and without a student loan i wouldn't be able to retrain at all and wpuld be sruck in a minimum wage, zeri hour vontract job.
It's like people know who they want to vote for and won't listen to others...even though i listen to his concerns on immigration( with his lovely immigrant dp sitting beside him.) Cognative dissonance at its finest!

malificent7 Tue 10-Dec-19 07:54:15

Said

malificent7 Tue 10-Dec-19 07:54:49

Zero hour contract...sorry all ...my phone is awful!

speakout Tue 10-Dec-19 07:56:01

Lots of people don't think the way you do.
My mother voted fror Brexit- she thinks even the worst case scenario will "be like the war- and everyone helped each other".
She feels nostalgic about the whole thing.

Actionhasmagic Tue 10-Dec-19 07:56:51

Oh god it’s awful and selfish

NamechangeProtectIdentity Tue 10-Dec-19 07:56:53

But you would have been able to retrain without a student loan. You'd have got a grant, which was not repayable.

Sirzy Tue 10-Dec-19 07:57:49

A lot of people are set in their ways about who they vote for. I think if you aren’t willing to accept that different people will have different choices for their voting then it is probably best to avoid talking about politics with them.

PiggyPlumPie Tue 10-Dec-19 07:57:56

My mum twisted herself in knots trying to work out what was best for her grandchildren wrt Brexit.

My dad however, voted leave because he thought that was what "they" didn't want him to do. The mind boggles.

Bloomburger Tue 10-Dec-19 07:58:43

It goes both ways. DD is voting Labour and that will adversely affect our family finances and so her as we are funding her through university.

malificent7 Tue 10-Dec-19 07:59:31

To be fair gis dp broughy up the general election subject ) possibly as she enjoys the ensuing drama that unfolds!).

nakedavengeragain Tue 10-Dec-19 07:59:44

@Bloomburger how will it affect your family finances?

malificent7 Tue 10-Dec-19 08:00:03

Oh i give up with the typos!

InfiniteSheldon Tue 10-Dec-19 08:00:11

I voted to protect my dc and dgc yabvvvvu and are so sure you and only you are right. You aren't. You just have an opinion, as does your dm/df. To imply that they are selfish shows a colossal ignorance and unpleasant sense of self importance. Personally I'd be embarrassed by your limited ability to see others points if view. .

Amanduh Tue 10-Dec-19 08:00:41

You could say that about anything though couldnt you? I could say why is xyz voting Labour in the election when it will affect their childs inheritance? Why vote Labour when it will drive your childs small business in to the ground?
There is no one answer.

malificent7 Tue 10-Dec-19 08:00:59

Was the grant a tory invention then and why can't i get it now?

Chemenger Tue 10-Dec-19 08:01:43

My in-laws have made it quite clear that they don’t care about the effect of brexit on their grandchildren because the Express says that’s what they should vote for so they did. We can’t talk about it with them because they’re so infuriatingly and obstinately ignorant of any facts.

malificent7 Tue 10-Dec-19 08:01:52

I don't think they are selfish...i didn't say that. Just odd..

Rojelio Tue 10-Dec-19 08:04:34

My parents voted to leave I voted to remain, we feel differently about it but they did it because they think that is what's best for their children/ grandchildren I voted remain as I think that's what's best.
I would imagine most people vote for things because they think it's what's best all round whether we agree or not is separate.

Aridane Tue 10-Dec-19 08:05:21

Lots of people don't think the way you do.
My mother voted fror Brexit- she thinks even the worst case scenario will "be like the war- and everyone helped each other".
She feels nostalgic about the whole thing.

Sounds like my mother! (plus there will be more jobs etc without all those people coming to the UK etc)

allthegoodusernameshavegone Tue 10-Dec-19 08:08:59

Everyone has aright to vote their way, to each of us the opposite is deemed selfish. I was angry at my parents for voting leave but they are the generation that remember life before EU, therefore have a nostalgic, clouded memory of times past . There is no right or wrong just differences of opinion.

saoirse31 Tue 10-Dec-19 08:10:14

I think you're completely discounting that they might in fact think they're doing the best for their dc and dgc, you know, have a different opinion to you. Maybe they're right, who knows?

Chloemol Tue 10-Dec-19 08:13:52

Bit of a sweeping statement, and why should it be wrong just because you don’t agree with it? All parties have done ‘bad’ things in their terms of office, all promise things they then don’t deliver on. They have one opinion, you have another. Just agree to disagree, and don’t discuss the matter again

BlaueLagune Tue 10-Dec-19 08:16:26

When the referendum campaign was happening my mum was in her local town centre and was hassled by a Leave campaigner who couldn't understand why she would vote to remain. She was "rescued" by a chap who told the campaigner to back off but said that he was going to vote to leave the EU but if he had children/grandchildren he'd have voted to remain. But what about everyone else's children and grandchildren?

Camomila Tue 10-Dec-19 08:17:10

My MIL has some odd opinions about EU migrants (I'm Italian and she likes me!). She didn't vote leave as she's not a British citizen herself. I don't think she's ever made the connection that worse case brexit scenario will mean her DS and DGC moving back to Italy with me!

Thehagonthehillwithtinsel Tue 10-Dec-19 08:17:38

You are aware aren't you OP that the bursary and tuition fees are different?The bursary was to aid living costs and has meant many mature students with family commitments have had to write of nursing as a career.Most nurses will also not earn enough to have to pay much of the fees back.
That you will be £60000 in debt wouldn't have been helped by the bursary but by better budgeting.
You also need to be a little less self absorbed if you are going to make it as a nurse and learn that people with different life experiences and opinions to you are not all wrong.

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