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People with learning difficulties should be paid less.

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Drabarni Fri 06-Dec-19 14:05:33

The latest to come from CONSERVATIVE.
I think I must be missing something. Yet people will vote for these people why?
What do they offer the average working family?

There are many people with learning difficulties who are carrying out their normal day to day living, doing the same job and as well as someone without learning difficulties.

I've not seen anything other than discrimination from this party.
Anyone who votes for them are openly voting for discrimination as it's not like they don't know.

Mintjulia Fri 06-Dec-19 14:06:35

Do you have a link to this?

AntennaReborn Fri 06-Dec-19 14:07:24

I have just seen the video on FB, it is absolutely scandalous angry

Noeuf Fri 06-Dec-19 14:07:31

This is why social media is shit for politics/fantastic for politics depending on whose writing the blurb/sound bite.

bsc Fri 06-Dec-19 14:07:41

Please link to where this has been reported

BabbleBee Fri 06-Dec-19 14:07:45

Another asking for a link to this statement

Whyjustwhy23 Fri 06-Dec-19 14:07:55

What? Link?

Drabarni Fri 06-Dec-19 14:08:03

Oh, there's a vote.

vote AIBU to suggest conservative voters are voting for racism and discrimination.

Noeuf Fri 06-Dec-19 14:08:18

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-39138775

AntennaReborn Fri 06-Dec-19 14:08:21

m.facebook.com/groups/52198885165?view=permalink&id=10158007540035166&sfnsn=scwspmo&d=n&vh=I

Drabarni Fri 06-Dec-19 14:08:54

metro.co.uk/2019/12/06/tory-candidate-says-disabled-people-paid-less-dont-understand-money-11280594/

Sally Ann Hart.

PurpleFrames Fri 06-Dec-19 14:09:05

This was widely reported on bbc (check the app) this morning with the 'context' the candidate claims, shown too. Totally shameful on her behalf.

MrsMaiselsMuff Fri 06-Dec-19 14:11:57

I have autism. I have some support handling my finances, but that's because I get overwhelmed, not because I don't understand.

Those of living with disabilities actually tend to have higher living costs than those without. Perhaps we should get paid more?

Drabarni Fri 06-Dec-19 14:12:41

I have learning difficulties an a low IQ.
I just never went for jobs beyond me, and eventually caught up in life.
Even gained an Hons Degree and PgCE.
If you can't do a particular job for whatever reason, difficulties or not, you don't do that job.
It doesn't mean you should get paid less for the work you do.
It's disgusting, they don't even try to hide their discrimination.

FredaFrogspawn Fri 06-Dec-19 14:13:05

What if the option was no job or less than minimum wage because your needs are such that an extra layer of supervision needs to be in place and paid for? Then you may be only able to do voluntary work. In principle, I feel it’s abhorrent but on one level I sort of get it in limited contexts.

FredaFrogspawn Fri 06-Dec-19 14:13:54

I’m talking about more severe learning difficulties.

MrsMaiselsMuff Fri 06-Dec-19 14:13:59

Here's another one, when Philip Hammond blamed disabled workers for a slowing economy.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/hammond-disabled-people-productivity-finding-jobs-employment-effect-comments-a8095851.html

Whyjustwhy23 Fri 06-Dec-19 14:14:43

Right I’ve found the original article she is defending sharing.

And I think she’s right. Read it THEN judge.

www.spectator.co.uk/2017/03/the-minimum-wage-denies-my-daughter-the-dignity-of-a-paid-job/

PurpleDaisies Fri 06-Dec-19 14:15:50

What if the option was no job or less than minimum wage because your needs are such that an extra layer of supervision needs to be in place and paid for?
So basically it’s “fuck you” up reasonable adjustments?
The whole point of the minimum wage is that it’s the minimum wage. Not the minimum unless you’re disabled.

Drabarni Fri 06-Dec-19 14:15:55

Sorry Freda

It's illegal to pay under the living wage, the cons would change the law to make it legal.
It's not ok to discriminate against people on any grounds.
people with learning difficulties need to support themselves the same as the rest of the population.

OceanVillage Fri 06-Dec-19 14:16:34

Not at all surprised!

MrsMaiselsMuff Fri 06-Dec-19 14:16:49

Freda, that support used to be provided by the government under the Access to Work scheme. The Conservatives have cut A2W funding though, so most people don't get anything near the support they need.

Also many people who lost their Motability cars through the PIP process have had to give up work as they're not able to manage public transport.

Whyjustwhy23 Fri 06-Dec-19 14:17:07

Written by the way, by a mother of a daughter with severe Down syndrome AND the original founder of a charity aimed at enabling those with SEVERE learning difficulties to work a few hours a week to remove the social isolation of permanent unemployment.

YouJustDoYou Fri 06-Dec-19 14:17:17

I've not seen anything other than discrimination from this party

It's not a Tory policy. It was the opinion of one councillor.

FredaFrogspawn Fri 06-Dec-19 14:17:45

I do see what you mean.

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