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To contact dog breeder and ask him not to sell puppy to my sister?

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BJsHair Wed 13-Nov-19 13:39:44

My sister (25) is autistic but very, very immature for her age (she still plays with teddy bears and watches cartoons). She lives alone and is not coping well. Does not work, barely leaves the house.

She gets obsessions. An example of her obsessions was the time she got obsessed with Ford Ka cars. So much so that she actively tried to buy one despite the fact that she doesn’t (and never will) drive. She just wanted it to sit in and decorate. She had no idea about insurance or road tax ... it was basically just to be a giant toy.

Anyway, I’m a dog breed enthusiast and my sister has now become obsessed with the same breed. I put years of research into the breed before I bought my first dog, organised dog training and socialisation classes before I got her and spent hours and hours on training. I’d had dogs before but not this breed. The breed is NOT a first time dog owner breed. In the wrong hands they can be dangerous. My sister is terrified of my dogs, has never owned a dog before yet is adamant that she is buying a puppy from this litter ... she’s going to pay her deposit on Friday. I’ve tried talking her out of it and my mum says I’m being selfish saying “why is it ok for you to have one but not her?”. They just don’t understand. AIBU to go directly to breeder and tell him not to sell her one?

TheHodgeoftheHedge Wed 13-Nov-19 13:41:33

Surely if the breeder is a decent one, they won’t agree to sell to your sister because It will be obvious that they are not a good fit for the dog?

Needbettername Wed 13-Nov-19 13:42:32

What is the breed?

Hoppinggreen Wed 13-Nov-19 13:43:32

I would hope that when she turns up and is quite obviously terrified the breeder Won’t sell her a puppy. If they still do then they don’t care about their pups and you telling them not to do it won’t make any difference

FunOnTheBeach20 Wed 13-Nov-19 13:43:45

Sounds like a terrible decision for her to get a dog. I think contacting the breeder would be sensible.

Skiaddicted Wed 13-Nov-19 13:44:00

Nothing to lose by trying, if youre honest with a reputable breeder they will be grateful im sure

Wolfiefan Wed 13-Nov-19 13:45:11

If it was a really good breeder they would have already worked out if it wasn’t a good match.
If it’s a bad breeder then they won’t care. They just want her money.
Is it a breed prone to health issues? Can she afford to insure it?

LuckyLola Wed 13-Nov-19 13:46:56

I don't think YABU at all. Either you will end up with the pup or it will go into an already overly stretched rescue shelter to be rehomed. Any good breeder wouldn't want the pups going to an suitable home.

TokyoSushi Wed 13-Nov-19 13:47:44

When I read your title I thought 'don't be ridiculous, you can't do that!' But under the circumstances, I think that it would be wise.

MrsEricBana Wed 13-Nov-19 13:48:19

It is going behind her back but you would be going her and the dog a kindness to do this.

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BJsHair Wed 13-Nov-19 13:48:53

She won’t insure it, she won’t even know how to insure it.

She’s met the puppies already so must have met the breeder.

Winterdaysarehere Wed 13-Nov-19 13:50:12

Suggest the breeder asks to do a home check.
Likely she would fail this.
Your dm is atrocious for supporting her.

BJsHair Wed 13-Nov-19 13:50:34

See another thing is this months obsession won’t be next months obsession. She hasn’t got a clue what she’s doing. I asked her how she’s going to train it and she said “I’ll make him sit for his food” as if that is all it needs (and she couldn’t even tell me how she’d do that)

Stayawayfromitsmouth Wed 13-Nov-19 13:52:28

Why is your mum supporting her with this?

messolini9 Wed 13-Nov-19 13:52:39

my mum says I’m being selfish saying “why is it ok for you to have one but not her?

Wow, your mum is in denial & must be a huge part of the problem.

Of COURSE you must contact the breeder.
With any luck, she will play along with you for the good of her pups, let your sister visit, & then let her know exactly why she cannot have one of the pups.

However, unless she then lets go of the obsession, you might find she tries elsewhere & gets hold of a dog before you get wind of it ..?

Wolfiefan Wed 13-Nov-19 13:53:57

Who’s giving her the money to buy this dog?

BJsHair Wed 13-Nov-19 13:55:09

She got thousands of pounds off her grandparents when they died ( not my grandparents thank Christ)

Pinkyponker Wed 13-Nov-19 13:56:38

Does she live alone or with your mum?

marshmellowed Wed 13-Nov-19 13:59:19

Could you help her ? I know it seems a bad idea but with support could a dog be something positive for her ?

BJsHair Wed 13-Nov-19 14:01:14

She lives alone.

If it was a small, “easy” dog then yes I could help her but not with this breed. They get big and they need to know who is in charge from day one.

marshmellowed Wed 13-Nov-19 14:01:54

Maybe that could be a compromise? She maybe lonely and a dog could be a wonderful companion but I agree it needs to be the right breed

krustykittens Wed 13-Nov-19 14:02:03

Yes, I would tell the breeder. If they are bad ones that only care about money then there is not a lot you can do but if she has fooled a good one, they will appreciate the tip off and your sister doesn't mess up a puppy. It's a shit situation so I hope you can distract her until she moves onto something inanimate.

BJsHair Wed 13-Nov-19 14:03:26

The only reason she’s become obsessed with them is because 1) they appeared on an advert recently and 2) she saw a funny video on Facebook featuring one. That’s all it takes with her.

PotteringAlong Wed 13-Nov-19 14:03:54

I’d tell the breeder too.

WellVersedInEtiquette Wed 13-Nov-19 14:04:11

I'm wondering if it's an Akita? Is it a decent breeder that she's getting it from?

marshmellowed Wed 13-Nov-19 14:04:29

As close family you know her best and if that is how you feel then def contact the breeder

Branleuse Wed 13-Nov-19 14:04:31

I think in this case, it YWNBU.

I wonder if it would be possible for her to "adopt" one of yours in as much as she could help you with it and walk it, and it be "half" hers, and then it will still be ok once shes bored

Zaphodsotherhead Wed 13-Nov-19 14:04:56

To be fair, in the wrong hands any breed of dog can be dangerous.

So your mum is on board with your sister getting this dog? Does your mum think your sister can look after this dog? Or is the general attitude one of 'oh, we can give it away or sell it if she can't manage'?

You can have a word with this breeder, but can you stop her going somewhere else? Is she capable of buying a puppy without someone helping her?

It has car crash written all over it, but I don't see how you can stop her contacting every breeder in the country, especially if your mum is behind her. Maybe look into how hard it is to rehome the breed if it doesn't work, and tell your mum? Or try to persuade her towards a breed that is an easier dog to handle - as a PP said, a dog may be good for her, just not your breed.

BJsHair Wed 13-Nov-19 14:06:50

I wouldn’t let her alone with my dogs.

Sallyseagull Wed 13-Nov-19 14:07:52


I would inform the breeder so, hopefully, they could say that unfortunately all the puppies have gone. Hopefully she wont then try to source another breeder.

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SlothMama Wed 13-Nov-19 14:09:54

I'd tell the breeder, if they cared about where their pups go they wouldn't sell her one.

Blueuggboots Wed 13-Nov-19 14:09:59

@iwouldbuyyouadress are you on glue??!!

Branleuse Wed 13-Nov-19 14:11:58

why wouldnt you leave her alone with them?

BJsHair Wed 13-Nov-19 14:12:36

@ iwouldbuyyouadress

Concern for animals as well as the potential for an out of control dog to kill someone. Now don’t be a dick, professionally offended one

BJsHair Wed 13-Nov-19 14:13:51

I wouldn’t leave her alone with them as i don’t trust them not to recognise weakness and play on it. I also wouldn’t trust her to keep control of them should she need to.

Fakeflowersaremynewnormal Wed 13-Nov-19 14:15:39

It would come across better if you had a bit more compassion for your sister and also answered as to why your mum thinks she could manage. Is your mum aware of the amount of time and training you have put in?

dontgobaconmyheart Wed 13-Nov-19 14:16:00

Why is your mother unconcerned OP? Surely she has the measure of her own daughter's abilities or are there other issues here confused. Why would you not want her alone with your own dogs?

You're not BU to do it if you think that is the right thing to do- but YABU for buying dogs from a breeder yourself if you've done so.

Ultimately you can't stop her buying one from everywhere, if she acquired one and was not caring for it or it were dangerous I would certainly report it to the RSPCA asap. This is the problem with dog breeding as a money making scheme.

beethebee Wed 13-Nov-19 14:16:47

Yes, contact the breeder (and maybe any other local ones that you know of).

This sounds like it would end very badly for at least the dog, but maybe also your sister.

DontDribbleOnTheCarpet Wed 13-Nov-19 14:16:49

I think it's a very good idea to contact the breeder. My sister sounds very like yours, except she never got a diagnosis due to my parents being in complete denial. She got the dog she wanted (my parents bought it for her) and it was an unmitigated disaster. It wasn't trained, she overfed it, didn't let it out or take it for walks, didn't groom it and was clearly terrified of it.
In the end my parents took it back, but fully supported her getting a fecking Labrador a few years later (in a tiny one bedroom house with no garden). Same story, same result.
Sometimes, somebody has to step in.

BJsHair Wed 13-Nov-19 14:18:14

My mother is very naive and what my sister wants, she gets.

I do have compassion for her, I’ve invited her to dog walks with me many times but she makes excuses.

PrincessHoneysuckle Wed 13-Nov-19 14:19:25

Come on what breed is it? Rottie? German Shepherd? Staffie?

FacebookRager Wed 13-Nov-19 14:19:29

Please do. Any breeder who cares about their pups would welcome the information. It's easy to say that a good breeder would pick up on her being a bad fit but I have no idea what your DSis acts like. Could she be convincing that she would be a good owner?

KanelbulleKing Wed 13-Nov-19 14:20:05

I wouldn’t leave her alone with them as i don’t trust them not to recognise weakness and play on it. I also wouldn’t trust her to keep control of them should she need to.

You make it sound like you have raptors not dogs.

I get you though. My adult DD is autistic an obsessed with cats and keeps getting the bloody things. Inevitably she can't care for it properly so it moves in with me. And then a cat she knows has kittens and off we go again. I currently have 3 of DD's cats living with me.

BeautifulTrauma1 Wed 13-Nov-19 14:21:29

I'm interested to know what the breed of dog is?

If it is the case that you can't stop this seller selling to your sister, maybe you could help her with some tips instead of being so against it? Put her in touch with puppy socialisation classes and support groups - show her online resource.
She may have autism but if she has the support she needs around her and manages to get the right tools to raise this puppy, it could 100% be the making of her and give her a lot more confidence.

womenspeakout Wed 13-Nov-19 14:22:31

Is i a Caucasian?

Bellatrix14 Wed 13-Nov-19 14:23:55

While I agree with you that you should contact the breeder and explain the situation (nobody is automatically entitled to buy an animal, even Pets at Home quiz you before you can take a pet home!) I’m unsure why you’re being so evasive about telling people the breed when you’ve been asking so many times? I think this is ‘outing’ enough already!

BJsHair Wed 13-Nov-19 14:24:33

I’m dogs are not dangerous, I don’t mean to sound like they are. I’m just very protective of them and wouldn’t want to put them in risky situations. They’re strong and if they feel they can get the better of someone (as in pull them over on the lead etc) they will do.

They are European Dobermans

SchadenfreudePersonified Wed 13-Nov-19 14:25:07

I also want to know what sort of dog it is. If is is an akita, as someone else suggested, they can be very dangerous if not handled properly - very independent-minded, powerful dogs.

What is it OP - it's hardly outing to mention a dog breed. Lots of owners have sisters.

Branleuse Wed 13-Nov-19 14:25:14

I think youre being quite vague, and a real dislike of your sister is coming through. What on earth do you mean that she would play on your dogs weaknesses?

What dogs are they, Huskies? Rottweilers?

Could you steer her towards a different animal that might not be such a disaster such as a cat?

I think if your sister and mother sense your dislike of her as comes across in this post, then they are less likely to listen to you, not more.

cccameron Wed 13-Nov-19 14:25:32

Inviting someone for a dog walk is not the same as showing someone compassion. That's an odd thing to say!

How do you think your sister will feel and react when she goes to collect her puppy and finds out she can't because you have called them? She would surely just go somewhere else till she got one. Sounds like the only thing you can do is help and support her really.

Winterdaysarehere Wed 13-Nov-19 14:26:01

Maybe find some gruesome ddog attack stories with your breed (some for most breeds out there I imagine ), ask your dm does she want dsis a statistic?
I have 2 of the breeds advised not to choose and would never recommend one to a novice owner.

SchadenfreudePersonified Wed 13-Nov-19 14:26:03

Ah- sorry - cross post.

Dories are lovely, but you are right - they do need a handler who knows what they are doing with them.

GooodMythicalMorning Wed 13-Nov-19 14:26:06

Is it a bulldog?

GooodMythicalMorning Wed 13-Nov-19 14:27:35

just saw, they are bug dogs for a beginner

churchandstate Wed 13-Nov-19 14:27:48

I think contacting the breeder behind your DSis’ back is overstepping the mark. She’s an adult, not a child. You’ve done what you can do.

SebandAlice Wed 13-Nov-19 14:28:14

Yanbu. I can’t believe your Mum thinks it is a good idea

BeautifulTrauma1 Wed 13-Nov-19 14:29:01

Can you persuade her to get a smaller dog? One that doesn't require as much training or specialist knowledge.

I know when I eventually have a puppy, it'll be a smaller one as it's my first...she needs a one that will be happy at home a lot of the time.

Breathlessness Wed 13-Nov-19 14:29:05

If they’re a good breeder then tell them but that won’t stop your sister from finding another breeder.

scoobydoo1971 Wed 13-Nov-19 14:29:29

Please tell the breeder as they will not wish the puppy to be supervised by a vulnerable person who may not deal with its welfare needs. It would be better explained in person, as they may have been told your mother is going to be the owner. You may wish to say that the dog is at risk of maltreatment, and that you are telling the breeder because the authorities may come back to them if there is an investigation. No breeder wants animal welfare officers or the police at their door so it may deter them from selling to your sister. If they continue with the sale, please contact the RSPCA and report the breeder as their professional standards are clearly lacking.

As a dog owner with a disability myself, it is hard work to take care of their needs properly so you are doing the right thing in trying to prevent the sale.

mencken Wed 13-Nov-19 14:30:45

poor dog, and poor neighbours when the barking starts, as it will.

'vulnerable' is indeed the word - and very concerning. Please stop this anyway you can.

PhannyPharts Wed 13-Nov-19 14:30:44

OP may be over stepping the mark but it's the puppy that will end up paying for this folly when it's rehomed or pts because it's bitten someone.

Dogs are not toys or experiments.

Doberman's are not for inexperienced owners regardless of ability. They need boundaries, socialisation training and exercise.

Straycatstrut Wed 13-Nov-19 14:31:04

Show her funny videos of small, fluffball types, facebook fan groups of them, and then take her to meet some puppies of those ones.

It does sound like this breed won't be a good match for her, - I'm guessing Mastiff or Rotty? and I looks like she'll give the dog to you after a few weeks, which is very unfair and distressing for the dog. Your sister does sound like she'd benefit from a little companion though.

XXcstatic Wed 13-Nov-19 14:31:43

It would come across better if you had a bit more compassion for your sister
I think the OP has both her sister's best interests, and the dog's best interests at heart. Trouble is that I can't see how contacting the breeder will help, as the sister will presumably just find another breeder, if this one refuses.

OP, I think you will probably have to let her make this mistake, and stand ready to rescue & rehome the puppy in due course. Sympathies.

Walkingthedog46 Wed 13-Nov-19 14:31:55

To those suggesting maybe smaller breed would be good for her sister, the OP says she barely leaves the house, so the poor animal would most probably never be walked.

Lovemusic33 Wed 13-Nov-19 14:33:23

I think you need to speak to the breeder, I agree that this isn’t the type of dog she should be getting especially a puppy. If she’s serious about getting a dog then she would be better with a older rescue dog and a breed that doesn’t need as much exercise, either a small dog, a greyhound or even a older staffie. I know many people with ASD that care for dogs but you probably know your sister well enough to know she’s not going to train and look after a puppy. Maybe the breeder can make up an excuse such as “really sorry but we have decided to keep this puppy and all the others are reserved”?

rosydreams Wed 13-Nov-19 14:34:42

you need to find something else for her to obsess over so she can move over to the next thing.Accept that this is a part of who she is and try to direct it into a direction that wont cause to much trouble.

show her videos of cool cake baking or some other fancy looking hobby see if you can get her attention away from the puppy

Wotrewelookinat Wed 13-Nov-19 14:35:06

I think you should tell the breeder too. For the puppy’s sake.

churchandstate Wed 13-Nov-19 14:35:53

I think she will find another breeder and this time they won’t tell the OP. I also agree that a Doberman is a dreadful breed choice for an inexperienced owner, and any dog at all is a dreadful choice for someone who rarely leaves the house.

OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg Wed 13-Nov-19 14:38:09

I think contacting the breeder behind your DSis’ back is overstepping the mark. She’s an adult, not a child.

Usually I would agree but there is another living, breathing animal's welfare at stake here who has no one else to advocate for it, so in those circumstances I don't think the OP is BU.

mumsiedarlingrevolta Wed 13-Nov-19 14:38:18

I would absolutely tell the breeder.

Poor pup!

it will never go but one way and I think you'd feel much much worse keeping quiet.

Agree with others to try and get her a new obsession.

Because there are other breeders...

EoinMcLovesCakeJumper Wed 13-Nov-19 14:38:22

I don't know anything about dogs but I just did a Google images search on European Doberman puppies, then on the adults, and the difference is pretty startling - from cute little scamps to huge, barrel-chested animals with powerful bodies. The obvious worry is that she doesn't realise how big and potentially dangerous this puppy is going to get. And I can imagine that a dog like that will not react well to never being walked, if your sister doesn't leave the house.

I think you have a duty to both her and the dog to do what you can to put her off this idea, by whatever means. If, as you say, she loses interest after a month or so, perhaps you only need to redivert her energies elsewhere until it passes.

I don't think suggesting a smaller dog is the way forward either, since it sounds like any breed will end up being neglected or given away, and that's just an unfair on a chihuahua as it would be on a doberman.

Fuckenstein Wed 13-Nov-19 14:38:27

Could you persuade her to get a miniature pincher instead? It would be far more manageable and your mum could help.

Branleuse Wed 13-Nov-19 14:38:31

What about a miniature pinscher? Would need less walking and probably not too much for your mum to handle if she is planning on taking most of the responsibility?

Branleuse Wed 13-Nov-19 14:38:56

@Fuckenstein great minds

Alsohuman Wed 13-Nov-19 14:38:58

If the breeder allows her to buy the dog, they’re a very poor one. Nothing was said, but it was very clear when we bought our puppy that we were being vetted.

She’s an adult, not a child. chronologically perhaps but someone who thinks buying a car they can’t drive to use as a toy really can’t be classed as adult. I’d contact the breeder and hope they’re a responsible one. Poor puppy.

LemonBreeland Wed 13-Nov-19 14:39:08

Absolutely tell the breeder. My concern is if they aren't a decent breeder they may sell it to her anyway.

Puppytooth Wed 13-Nov-19 14:41:02

I just don’t understand how your Mum’s only opinion is that you’re being selfish?! Surely she would 100% know that this can’t happen unfortunately. I agree with others - why on earth would a smaller breed be the answer? It is still a living animal which needs tremendous care and attention, with a puppy it is 24/7 as I found out for myself - it is tough! It is really sad that your sister can not look after a dog but it is a reality. Please speak to the dog breeder - considering your sister’s and a dog’s wellbeing is NOT overstepping the mark.

Span1elsRock Wed 13-Nov-19 14:41:15

Wow, that's a horrendous combination. No wonder you are concerned, OP.

I think tackling your Mum is the best bet, though, and not the breeder.

This has disaster written all over it, especially for the poor dog.

Lovemusic33 Wed 13-Nov-19 14:41:51

I have a friend with a lot of mental health issues, he rarely left his flat (would pop to the local shop), he then fostered a dog (Belgium Shepard) and the dogs now lived with him for 5 years, he walks her twice a day and wouldn’t be without her, it’s really helped his mental health and given him company. So it can work out but I don’t think a puppy is the way to go, maybe she could look into fostering dogs?

Branleuse Wed 13-Nov-19 14:45:45

What about a cat?

Armadillostoes Wed 13-Nov-19 14:46:21

YANBU-I agree with the majority of posters that it is in nobody's best interests for the poor dog to end up with someone incapable of caring for it properly and safely. From the way in which the OP describes the sister and her needs, she should not have ANY dog. That is sad but dogs are sentient creatures, not objects or toys for human benefit.

It is also true that even small dogs can bite if not adequstely looked after and socialised. Why on Earth should a dog lose its life and some otherperson be hurt and potentially scarred life, just because someone WANTED a dog? Wants are not needs.

Mummyoflittledragon Wed 13-Nov-19 14:47:01

I would definitely contact the breeder. Your sister having a dog like this could be have frightening consequences and a very difficult to handle dog as you know.

Orchidflower1 Wed 13-Nov-19 14:52:36

To all those saying let the op sister get a dog- would you want it living near you cos I wouldn’t.

Op you have to tell the breeder for the sake of the dog, your sister and the general public.

Eckhart Wed 13-Nov-19 14:55:32

What happens when you tell her it's a bad idea, OP?

ChuckleBuckles Wed 13-Nov-19 14:56:25

OP is there any local dog rescues that she could volunteer with to be a dog walker. One near me has a "supervised" weekend walkers scheme for people that have additional needs, it may giver your sister the dart of reality that is needed to see how much work a dog is, and it would be coming from someone outside your family so your mother may take it more seriously and listen to them too.

NC2020 Wed 13-Nov-19 14:56:39

I think you should contact the breeder. But also people suggesting a small dog is a terrible idea. I don't have a doberman but I have a larger dog and a tiny one and the tiny one needs more attention if anything and as much exercise. Just because they're little doesn't make them any less needy, he was much harder to train than the big guy!

cantfindname Wed 13-Nov-19 14:58:53

Agree 100% with Orchidflower1

The only breed I am truly frightened of! Why do they so often end up with unsuitable owners?

She will be so out of her depth and the dog will be the one to suffer as it will inevitably be passed from pillar to post due to lack of proper training and socialising as a pup.

1forAll74 Wed 13-Nov-19 15:00:30

It' doesn't sound like a good idea at all. according to what you have said about your sister. You can only hope that the breeder will ascertain all the situations involved, and not go ahead with things.

Flouncysinatra Wed 13-Nov-19 15:01:16

If we are being real about this - it won’t matter if you contact the breeder- she will find another one, or a puppy farm.

You need to try and tackle this differently. You’ve said she has obsessions - is it likely that if she doesn’t get a puppy immediately that she will go off the idea?

Skysblue Wed 13-Nov-19 15:01:52


CherryBathBomb Wed 13-Nov-19 15:03:07

Ive had large dogs growing up and now have a tiny dog. I must say that smaller dogs are more hard work and need more attention! Can you divert her attention towards a cat or maybe a hamster 🐹

greenlobster Wed 13-Nov-19 15:03:36

YANBU. I'd contact the breeder.

You mentioned your sister's obsessions are quite short lived. Is there any chance you could sidetrack her by offering to help her find out more about the breed and being a dog owner in general before she gets one? There's probably an thousand and one things that you could reasonably suggest she 'absolutely must do' before actually buying the dog. With luck the next obsession will come along before the buying the puppy stage gets reached, and if it fails then at least she'd be a bit more prepared.

We manage some of my adult autistic daughter's more completely impractical obsessions like this and often by the time we've finished researching whatever the thing is that she wants to do/buy she's completely lost interest and moved on to the next thing.

BoomyBooms Wed 13-Nov-19 15:04:26

Tell the breeder, definitely. A good one would want to know!

crosspelican Wed 13-Nov-19 15:05:39

This is a bit of a no-brainer. Of course you should contact the breeder.

Chances are she will be stalled for long enough for the obsession to wear off.

Will her landlord even allow large animals in the flat/house where she is living? Unless she owns?

tinkering Wed 13-Nov-19 15:06:09

I can totally see why you're not keen for your sister to have a puppy (and especially one of that breed!) but how are you going to handle the situation if you go behind her back and tell the breeder. If she goes out expecting a puppy and gets turned down (even if the breeder/you are in the right) is she the type to become agitated or have a meltdown at the fact she has built this expectation up and it has been torn away?

crosspelican Wed 13-Nov-19 15:07:37

So it can work out but I don’t think a puppy is the way to go,

This is a fair point - would she cope with an adult (i.e. pre-trained!) dog? Some gorgeous mixed breed who needs - and can give - her love?

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius Wed 13-Nov-19 15:09:04

Could you and/or your mum get her a robot dog now, as an early Christmas present? Some of the fun of a dog, but without the responsibility of a live animal.

carly2803 Wed 13-Nov-19 15:12:38


yes absolutely contact the breeder!

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