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To think she shouldn't get higher rate pip

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sunnydaysx Tue 15-Oct-19 19:10:49

My MIL receives pip because she has a bad back and asthma her daughter is down as her carer.
She hasn't had the central heating on in her home for more than 10 years and it's riddled with damp making the asthma worse...

Long story short she's not making her situation any better because she's not trying to get rid of the damp or taking most of her tablets she's meant to. Basically she's over exaggerating.

She is now writing to PIP to say she should be on the higher rate allowance because she has to keep going to hospital appointments and keeps coughing.

AIBU to think higher rate disability should be for people who actually can't move, talk, walk not somebody that can do her gardening, painting, wallpapering and just general everyday things shouldn't be entitled to it because they're playing on there illness or is it not my business?

I just think imo she shouldn't be entitled to higher rate and should be grateful she's even been awarded lower rate because she actually isn't disabled

AnneLovesGilbert Tue 15-Oct-19 19:13:14

It’s not your business. They don’t dish it out like sweets. Plenty of people have died while appealing benefits decisions.

NoSauce Tue 15-Oct-19 19:14:15

It’s none of your business, obviously.

iklboo Tue 15-Oct-19 19:14:52

I think you need to brush up on what counts as a disability.

AlphaJura Tue 15-Oct-19 19:15:30

Why isn't she putting the heating on? Is it because she can't afford it? Might be why she needs the higher rate of PIP.

It's not really any of your business but to get the higher rate they'd make her go for an assessment, get medical evidence and the interviews are notoriously tough. You have to score highly for mobility and care issues. Just because she's written to them, doesn't mean she'd get it. Many people have been declared fit when they had serious health problems so it's not easy to exaggerate.

hazell42 Tue 15-Oct-19 19:16:01

Wow, you're a peach.
None of your business.
It's a very stringent application process and if she isnt entitled she won't get it. But she IS entitled to ask for it.

Sunnydays999 Tue 15-Oct-19 19:16:18

To say she isn’t disabled is odd . She is clearly ill and struggling. How do you know the ins and outs of her illness ? If she keeps going to hospital she is clearly ill . Seems more to this and you just don’t like her

breakfastpizza Tue 15-Oct-19 19:18:12

YABU.

SweetSummerchild Tue 15-Oct-19 19:20:11

She is now writing to PIP to say she should be on the higher rate

I am sure you are well aware that PIP doesn’t work like that. PIP assessments take into account medical evidence and assessors tend to take a very cynical view of what claimants ‘say’ they need. It’s quite hard to get, even with medical evidence.

If she is awarded, it will be because an assessor believes she is eligible on ‘most days’. That’s not really for you to question.

sunnydaysx Tue 15-Oct-19 19:20:16

She does cash in hand work but claims disability because she 'can't work'confused

bloodywhitecat Tue 15-Oct-19 19:20:26

Asthma certainly can be a disability, I have a 30m year old daughter who is chronically asthmatic, there are many times she cannot even get up the stairs without having to stop, she can't string two words together when she is really bad yet she holds county records for swimming and has represented our region in national triathlon events. YABU.

Butchyrestingface Tue 15-Oct-19 19:20:28

I just think imo she shouldn't be entitled to higher rate and should be grateful she's even been awarded lower rate because she actually isn't disabled

How do you work out she isn’t disabled? You a doctor? Her doctor?

Batshittery Tue 15-Oct-19 19:20:41

Mind your own business. YABU

TheQueef Tue 15-Oct-19 19:22:55

Nosey fucker aren't you?
While you are entitled to your opines, spewing them here is inviting mine and imo you are being a snidey weasel.

TheQueef Tue 15-Oct-19 19:24:14

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JanMeyer Tue 15-Oct-19 19:25:11

AIBU to think higher rate disability should be for people who actually can't move, talk, walk not somebody that can do her gardening, painting, wallpapering and just general everyday things shouldn't be entitled to it because they're playing on there illness or is it not my business?

You have no fucking clue about disability benefits that's for sure, people can get high rate PIP and be perfectly able to walk and talk. Like people with autism, learning disabilities or mental illness.
PIP isn't just for sick people you know. And don't worry, if she doesn't meet the criteria for high rate she won't get it. That is if your MIL exists at all, funny how benefit bashing posts always involve a bad back.
PIP is notoriously difficult to get, sometimes even for people with very obvious and severe disabilities. Having been through the process myself I wouldn't question someone else's award. It's not an easy process at all.

I just think imo she shouldn't be entitled to higher rate and should be grateful she's even been awarded lower rate because she actually isn't disabled

Oh yeah, and what qualifies you to make that assesment?
Seriously with your attitude and your disability spotting abilities you'd be a perfect fit for ATOS or Capita.

Broken11Girl Tue 15-Oct-19 19:25:52

hmm

DioneTheDiabolist Tue 15-Oct-19 19:26:23

You can think whatever you want about your MiL OP. Just as I can think whatever I want about you.

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland Tue 15-Oct-19 19:26:39

I get what you are saying OP. Despite the notoriously stringent assessments and appalling treatment of many genuine claimants, there continue to be people who game the system, and it's perfectly possible your MIL is one (although v unlikely, it's harder and harder to get away with).

But you (and I) will get a roasting for daring to suggest this on mnet. AIBU isn't kind on these sorts of topics, get your big girl pants on and face the storm.

TheFairyCaravan Tue 15-Oct-19 19:29:26

She does cash in hand work but claims disability because she 'can't work'confused

She could be on the highest rate of PIP and still work 40 hrs a week. Claiming PIP doesn't mean you can't work.

JanMeyer Tue 15-Oct-19 19:29:55

She does cash in hand work but claims disability because she 'can't work

Anyone can claim PIP, it's not a benefit for people who can't work. A person can be eligible for PIP and able to work. PIP is meant for the extra costs of being disabled, being able to claim it enables a lot of disabled people to be able to work.
This is like playing benefits bingo, we've already got a bad back, not "really disabled," cash in hand work and an OP that seems not to understand that PIP is not an out of work benefit. Wonder what trope I'll get to cross off next. 😡😁

GingersAreLush Tue 15-Oct-19 19:30:11

PIP isn’t means tested. It’s also not a piece of piss to get awarded it. Aside from that it’s none of your business. Keep your beak out.

Amortentia Tue 15-Oct-19 19:30:55

Good luck to her if she can get it. I’ve got a disabled daughter who will probably never live independently, since moving from DLA to pip according to the DWP she’s been magically cured of her genetic condition. Were having to fight it out to get her benefits reinstated. I applaud anyone who can get anything from the DWP.

Fairylea Tue 15-Oct-19 19:31:36

Maybe she can’t afford to have her heating on and if she had the higher amount she could?

I claim pip. I don’t tell anyone I do in real life because of people like you. I have a hidden disability and on a good day you’d never think I had anything “wrong” with me. One of the things I claim for is asthma - I also have Addison’s, thyroid, pituitary issues and anaemia.

I think you just need to keep quiet to be honest.

GrumpyHoonMain Tue 15-Oct-19 19:31:47

Disability PIP is calculated based on your worst days not your best. I know people with MS and Arthritis who look like they’re in perfect health on their best days but struggle to even have a bath by themselves during their worst. I would suggest that if your DH is unwilling to care for his mum then you need to mind your own business - let her and her daughter handle it

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