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y0rkier0se Mon 14-Oct-19 21:17:41

DP works for the Civil Service. He has a week of work booked off over Christmas, and we’ve booked and paid for a cottage for that week. He’s apparently been told today that if Brexit goes ahead on 31st October, all annual leave over Christmas will be cancelled. Does anyone know where we stand on this? Can’t afford to lose £900 on the cottage and don’t see why we should! It’s been booked for nearly a year. Don’t even think travel insurance would cover this sad

adaline Mon 14-Oct-19 21:18:52

Any employer can cancel annual leave if they give sufficient notice.

Mammylamb Mon 14-Oct-19 21:19:37

I’d perhaps contact ACAS.
Or ask his workplace to refund him the £900

Lonelymum11 Mon 14-Oct-19 21:21:20

I imagine you'll be fine. I doubt boris will be able to get it sorted by 31st anyway.

But yeah anywhere I've worked has always had a clause about leave approval being at company's discretion and they can cancel it due to business needs if necessary.

ClownsandCowboys Mon 14-Oct-19 21:23:44

They can cancel, but they have to allow time to use it. When does his leave year finish?

y0rkier0se Mon 14-Oct-19 21:23:46

Where does that leave people for booking holidays and the like? I hope not Lonelymum, I didn’t bloody vote for it anyway and now it’s going to run my holiday angry

y0rkier0se Mon 14-Oct-19 21:24:22

It goes April to April ClownsandCowboys

RB68 Mon 14-Oct-19 21:29:51

It would be reasonable to submit a claim for the costs of the holiday etc.

feelinghelplesstoday Mon 14-Oct-19 21:32:07

@y0rkier0se are you sure it's April to April? My oh is CS too and his is March to feb x

Snapespeare Mon 14-Oct-19 21:35:22

It varies depending on government department.

moreismore Mon 14-Oct-19 21:35:45

I’ve got specialist travel insurance in the past for military where operational needs mean last minute holiday cancellations possible. Might be worth seeing if there are similar policies that cover other jobs?? No idea if it’s possible.

Justbaking Mon 14-Oct-19 21:36:01

Police do it as well. Both my DH and I are blocked from taking leave due to a Brexit and that's right through half term. angry

y0rkier0se Mon 14-Oct-19 21:36:50

Ahh you’re right feelinghelpless, thank you, it is February to February, and if everyone is the same surely it wouldn’t be viable for everybody to take theirs Between January and February!

caffeinebuzz Mon 14-Oct-19 21:37:22

In every private sector company I've worked for they would reimburse expenses incurred for cancelled holidays. And most allowed the days to be carried over if there wasn't another chance to take it in the current year. But obviously don't know how that translates to the Civil Service.

readingnc Mon 14-Oct-19 21:40:53

😂 It doesn't @caffeinebuzz

Have they said why they need to cancel it op?

MereDintofPandiculation Mon 14-Oct-19 21:41:03

Unless your T&C have changed drastically in the last 10 years, they'll refund the £900 if you ask them.

Civil Service used to talk about "annual leave is a privilege not a right" and "needs of the office" but that changed when UK had to come in line with the EU. So he should be able to take his leave at a later date, or carry it over into the next leave year.

My oh is CS too and his is March to feb Depends on Department. Could be date of joining, could be birthday. Not everyone will necessarily have the same A/L year even in the same Department.

MrsGrindah Mon 14-Oct-19 21:44:40

I’m in the civil service and I’m pretty sure they won’t reimburse, just give you the chance to take leave later.

readingnc Mon 14-Oct-19 21:47:30

Nobody in the civil service has their leave running from their birthday!

I'm assuming he's police, there's not going to be much he can do at this point. It can't be a huge shock though as we faced this scenario in March too

VirtualHamster Mon 14-Oct-19 21:50:59

Nobody in the civil service has their leave running from their birthday!

In the part of the civil service i worked in your annual leave year ran from your birthday month. So if your birthday was 4th May, leave ran May - April, if it was the 30th September it ran September - August etc.

ArnoldBee Mon 14-Oct-19 21:53:20

My leave runs from my birthday month! In my department it's either your birthday month or the month you joined. CS has always had the right to cancel leave due to business needs just that over the past couple of decades our country has been fairly stable so we haven't been used to it. We are in unprecedented times and it's all hands to the pump. Yes it's crap but it can happen. I have never known a holiday refund but you never know.

mumtomaxwell Mon 14-Oct-19 21:54:05

Married to a civil servant too.... the shit show that will ensue when we crash out of the EU with no deal means our family life is going to suffer immeasurably. We have already been through one set of cancelled leave and extended leave bans earlier this year and I’m expecting more. Thanks Brexit angry

y0rkier0se Mon 14-Oct-19 21:54:08

He’s not in the police, it’s HMRC. Surely they can’t expect us to lose £900 because of it, but he doesn’t seem to think they’ll reimburse either. Honestly at a loss what to do, suppose we’ve just got to wait it out and hope it gets stalled again wine

0hT00dles Mon 14-Oct-19 21:55:12

Oh gosh.

But yes, it's up to the discretion of the company.

I've never known anyone personally who it has happened to, but I've seen it mentioned a few times on here.

My dh will be cancelling his own annual leave himself if brexit happens on the 31stsad But that's him doing it and he knows I'm not happy.

ArnoldBee Mon 14-Oct-19 21:55:18

And yes we have been told that we may be required at short notice - not a lot I can do from my desk but I may be drafted.

MrsGrindah Mon 14-Oct-19 21:57:12

Course they can. It’s not done lightly. They cant make decisions based on the fact that it might mean some people are out of pocket.

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