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To go back to shampoo in plastic bottles from shampoo bars (hairdresser POVs welcome)

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Handbaghag Wed 07-Aug-19 21:28:25

I am keen to reduce single use plastics in our house. I made liquid soap after my second attempt (the first attempt resulted in a very large bar of soap the size of an ice cream tub 😂) so am saving on plastic/purchase of replacements. I've gone to bar soap for the shower but have tried several shampoo bars that basically just feel either that I'm washing my hair with soap or something not lathery/ strong enough to clean it at all! Solid conditioner also want much cop either. I'm assuming this will improve as people try and develop it. My experience of people's comments about shampoo is that it shouldn't have salts in it or other stuff that's bad for your hair. I'm wondering if Cash and carry type places do bigger bottles of shampoo. I know it's still plastic but still wonder if it's less plastic per 100ml etc. I was buying the biggest bottles of Pantene and was quite happy with it as a shampoo.
My hairdresser would do refills on shampoo from the salon but I didn't like the last one I bought. I also would want shampoo for the whole family.
Comments and ideas/what do you do?

ChoporNot Wed 07-Aug-19 22:23:25

Faith in Nature shampoos and conditioners can usually be bought as refills.

Butterymuffin Wed 07-Aug-19 22:29:15

I am in the same position - have happily swapped shower gel for soap, but have not been able to find a shampoo bar I can get on with. I will check out some of the recommendations on here though. I figure if you're doing whatever you feel able to, it's still better than nothing.

IrishGal21 Wed 07-Aug-19 22:30:33

tresemme big bottle lasts 6 months and lathers very well

Branster Wed 07-Aug-19 22:34:48

If you get the chance to look into traditional hair care in cultures from places like Iran, Morocco they use some products which although don’t lather as a standard shampoo they clean hair (and skin) and condition at the same time. It’s one of those things at the back of my mind I think I should find out more about one day. I think something called Ghassoul and Katira (not sure of spelling) are a couple I remember off the top of my head. Traditional Indian hair care uses a lot of powders and solids but I have no idea what they are and some products can alter light hair colour so you have to be careful.
Iceland is really hot on things like this (‘natural’, zero waste beauty and personal care) but their products are not cheap locally or when exported.

gumbalina01 Wed 07-Aug-19 22:36:44

Ethique shampoo and conditioner bars have just launched in Holland and Barrett. They are amazing..

TheLidoOfThighs Wed 07-Aug-19 22:37:24

Neals Yard do (expensive) glass bottles - I know because I smashed one in the bath once.

Just had a google and Wearth London look worth checking. Some refillable options where the refills come in a biodegradable pouch.

RosaWaiting Wed 07-Aug-19 22:37:37

I thought you were going to say because of the hassle. I like lush but a faff with the tin etc etc

I buy faith in nature now.

OtraCosaMariposa Wed 07-Aug-19 22:44:13

I'm a big fan of solids shampoo. Didn't get on with the conditioner though.

But by swapping bottles of shampoo and shower gel, I've cut shower bottles by two thirds.

user1471504234 Wed 07-Aug-19 22:47:12

Not unreasonable OP. I was so excited when I discovered Lush shampoo bars, my hair was amazing, but they made my hands so dry and scaly that I had to stop.
I now get huge bottles of shampoo from TKMaxx and my hands are normal again!

Honeyroar Wed 07-Aug-19 22:54:50

Bodyshop recycle their bottles and tubs now - if you take five empty ones in you get a £5 voucher back. They have some lovely shampoos (the green tea one is awesome!).

WhataLovelyPear Wed 07-Aug-19 23:05:44

Same here - trying to go plastic free and using my first shampoo bar. I think I got it from the Soapnut Company but it left such a sticky residue despite loads of vinegar rinse I've given up. I have curly hair so was already using non sulphate shampoo, but after 3 washes with bar I feared I would ended up with dreadlocks. I bought a Lush one too, but now I'm thinking of getting myself down to Tkmaxx for these big bottles everyone is mentioning.

Esspee Wed 07-Aug-19 23:05:48

A very simple way to help the environment is "just use half". It could be shampoo, detergent, hair conditioner, etc. I started doing this to reduce the amount of pollutants I was responsible for releasing into the environment. Simply use less of whatever and see if it does an adequate job. If not use a little more until you find what works for you. It will amaze you to find that you have been using far more than you need. Try diluting things like shampoo hand wash and detergent. It will go much further. When washing the floor do you need to use cleanser every time or would clean water be adequate? Do you really need to clean the bath with chemicals every single time it's used? Could that t-shirt be worn again without being washed?
It becomes a state of mind and you produce less waste plus save money and time too.

EustaciaPieface Wed 07-Aug-19 23:06:47

Second the massive bottles of Aveda, great value for money and it is a company with sustainability at its heart. Lush shampoo bars are great, conditioner not so much.

Duckyneedsaclean Wed 07-Aug-19 23:09:26

I've heard that Lamazuna is good.

But tbh, there's so much single use plastic to cut down on before getting to shampoo bottles. If all you use is shampoo bottles, and they get recycled, you're doing pretty amazingly.

Iilana Wed 07-Aug-19 23:10:25

You can buy the 5litre salon quality shampoos from Amazon or ebay now.without needing to go to the wholesalers. I do this and fill up a smaller glass bottle for the bathroom.

Iilana Wed 07-Aug-19 23:10:49

www.amazon.co.uk/Indola-Plus-Care-Salon-Shampoo/dp/B004Y771PC/ref=mp_s_a_1_59?hvlocphy=9045945&hvnetw=g&keywords=5+litre+shampoo&hvadid=259150540684&qid=1565215702&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5tCUj-Lx4wIViZntCh3HBAyPEAAYASAAEgKe6PD_BwE&s=gateway&hydadcr=16908_1717172&hvpos=1t1&hvdev=m&hvqmt=e&tag=mumsnetforu03-21&hvtargid=kwd-315446171457&adgrpid=61783358068&hvrand=9070223629210181394&sr=8-59

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RosaWaiting Wed 07-Aug-19 23:10:54

Oh Body Shop did that when I was a teen. Good to know theyve started again.

SteadyAreYouReady Wed 07-Aug-19 23:11:09

Honestly OP pantene is so cheap and full of sulfates it foams up so easily so you’ll be used to that, the solids won’t match up.

I do salon size bottles of l’oreal Professional, but I’ve recently started using Olaplex shampoo and conditioner - small bottles but you only need a tiny bit.

Freaking0ut Wed 07-Aug-19 23:12:07

Yep massive bottles from tk maxx here too, have been pleased with them. I plan to take them to be refilled with Faith in nature once they are empty. Those who use Faith in Nature already, how do you find it?

thenightsky Wed 07-Aug-19 23:21:25

I buy 1 litre sulphate free shampoo from tkmaxx usually around 8 or £10

I find a litre bottle lasts me 18 months plus now I have installed a water softener.

ohnana Wed 07-Aug-19 23:22:01

I don’t think there are any brands that use glass bottles for shampoo as they would probs break in the shower if it got too hot?!

I’ve been using a newish one from We Are Paradoxx my friend got for me that’s in aluminium and I think they are bringing out refills or a packaging return scheme like lush. And it’s cruelty free, vegan and pretty much plastic free. Natural ingredients too without sulphates for those that look for that?

I love the shampoo but their conditioner is UNREAL
www.boots.com/we-are-paradoxx-secret-weapon-3-in-1-conditoner-250ml-10265844

It’s not the cheapest but also not as expensive as other brands, and 100% worth it as I’ve been getting so many compliments as it’s no where near as frizzy as before grin

I think you can pretty much buy it anywhere too which makes it a bit easier to try and do our bit. Boots, ASOS and Next too I think!

Dishevelled09 Wed 07-Aug-19 23:23:29

I've been using faith in nature lemon & tea tree shampoo for a while after I used to use a salon sulphate free shampoo. The faith in nature gives me squeaky clean hair whereas the salon one didn't seem to properly clean my scalp. I'm a convert to faith in nature shampoo now, will refill at a local-ish shop that offers it.

ScatteredMama82 Wed 07-Aug-19 23:45:29

YANBU. I tried several shampoo bars, even tried doing a pre-rinse with bicarb and a post-rinse with apple cider vinegar but my hair felt awful. So sticky and gross. I gave up and went back to shampoo in bottles, but I refill at my local zero-waste store. Also, I have recently tried a Lush shampoo bar (montalbano) and it's AMAZING. It smells gorgeous and my hair feels just as clean as with bottle shampoo. It's more expensive than refilling a bottle though, so I think I'll keep it for holidays and stick to refilling my bottles for now.

ScatteredMama82 Wed 07-Aug-19 23:45:49

PS Very hard water here too

TheLidoOfThighs Wed 07-Aug-19 23:52:01

I heard Lamazuna was good too but they aren’t, or not for me!

Freaking I find Faith in Nature fine, no complaints, miles better than any bar I’ve tried.

Rosa as far as I can see from the website it’s not really like Body Shop in the 90s when you could refill stuff, they are just recycling them, unfortunately.

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