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To be surprised that pretty much everyone I know has given their child a ‘wacky’ name?

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custarddonut Fri 12-Jul-19 14:21:59

I’m reluctant to give specific examples as it would be potentially outing but by way of comparison I mean that none of my friends’ kids have names that were fairly standard when I was growing up in the 80s. E.g. Rachel / Sarah / Lucy / Daniel / Matthew / John / David etc.

I appreciate that names go in and out of fashion, and I understand (to a degree) that parents perhaps want their kids to stand out (or at least not have what are perceived as ‘boring’ or totally run-of-the-mill names, but more often than not the names in use now (in my circles at least) are, in my opinion, pretentious at best and verging on the ridiculous at worst! Worst-case is where they are sort of just random words, rather than actual names, e.g. ‘snowy’. Or names like the Geldof children e.g. ‘Pixie’ etc. Then you get names which are like old age pensioner names but not necessarily the trendy ones …they seem so dreary to me! (e.g. Phylis) OR names which to me sound really American (and names that you’d need to be quite cool to pull off, or a bit more grown up – they don’t seem to suit kids IMO) e.g. Harrison / Grayson etc. When I think of it, not a single friend of mine has given their kid what I would consider to be a ‘normal’ name.. and this is of a circle of say, 25 kids.

AIBU to feel a bit disappointed about this? I know, each to their own, live and let live, but to me it seems a bit of a shame that ‘normal’ names seem so unfashionable these days…OR, if I were to call my child something like ‘Anna’, would I be setting them up for standing out (in the wrong way) when they go to school? Will the inverse happen and names like ‘John’ become the weird names?!?

PapayaCoconut Fri 12-Jul-19 14:25:31

You do realise that everyone who named their kid Alfie or Wilfred in 2010 thought they were doing something edgy, right? Tastes change and trends develop.

Pinktinker Fri 12-Jul-19 14:26:59

What is a ‘normal’ name to you by today’s standards then? The top ten names like Harry and Olivia? Should every single person only name their children those names or maybe we should move to a system like Scandinavian countries where parents have to choose from a pre-approved list?

I agree with you to an extent re ridiculous made up names which literally are just random words. Plenty of names I dislike too but I’m unsure what constitutes as a ‘normal name’. I think Phylis is a normal name fwiw.

DannyWallace Fri 12-Jul-19 14:28:59

YABU.

Names go in and out of fashion.
You want names that were popular when you were young, but not ones that seem "too old".

EssentialHummus Fri 12-Jul-19 14:32:26

Some of this is just personal taste colliding with trends/fashion. You learn as a new parent to say “Ah, lovely” when you meet little <odd name>.

custarddonut Fri 12-Jul-19 14:34:35

Well this is kind of the question, what is a 'normal' name these days anyway? To me, it seems like wacky is the new normal. As I said in my original post, each to their own, but for me, they seem try-hard and pretentious. But I wonder if by calling a kid born in 2019 something like 'john', would one seem equally try-hard and pretentious? I just don't know anymore! And of course I am not advocating that people choose from a pre-approved list of names, don't be silly. I love that we live in a country where people can do what they want, I just won't be using what I perceive to be a 'wacky' name. I also think a lot of names that i hear these days don't strike me as though they'd look great on a CV but I realise that's not the be-all-and-end all.

Glitterblue Fri 12-Jul-19 14:34:38

My daughter born in 2010 has a classic name. There was an Anna born at the same time in the hospital, a Rebecca and a James but I do know what you mean, so many of the children in her school have the kind of names you're talking about, or odd spellings. There's someone with a name similar to Ronnie spelt Ronnee and there's another e ending name with 2 e's, for example Sophiee but a different name, if that makes sense!

I'd go with a name you love, personally I like names that stand the test of time, names where you don't read the name and think "you were born in 2019"!

custarddonut Fri 12-Jul-19 14:35:36

And yes, I'd never say anything but 'ah, lovely name' when a friend announces their child's name (this makes me a hypocrite I know, but I always seek to be polite)

Purpletigers Fri 12-Jul-19 14:36:36

There’s a super chapter about names and the cycles they go through in Freakonomics .
Anna is a lovely name btw.

Barbarafromblackpool Fri 12-Jul-19 14:37:10

Those 'normal' names you mentioned are synonymous with the 70s and 80s. Go back a bit and there would be a different set of 'normal' names.

TeenTimesTwo Fri 12-Jul-19 14:39:52

It's just fashions.

I think of Ivy and Alfie and Bertie etc as 'old people's names'
Patricia is my parent's generation.
John and David and Keith and Susan are my generation.

But youngsters now don't know the Ivy and Alfies so they are back in. The John and David and Keith are 'grandparent' names.

LadyTiredWinterBottom2 Fri 12-Jul-19 14:39:53

I am sure there was a time when someone first called their baby Rose, and everyone who had biblical names turned and stared.

I don't think it matters to us; it might matter to the child, if they have a ridiculous name they have to spell and/or pronounce for people all the time.

custarddonut Fri 12-Jul-19 14:41:34

Ooh that would be very interesting to read the freakonomics chapter on name cycles! Thanks - will have a look. And yes, aware that these things go in cycles, but some names (in my view) remain 'classic' and kind of more straightforward, I guess. But ultimately you have to go with what you love personally... I guess what I'm driving at though is my surprise when friends who are, I think, unpretentious in every way, then give their kids names like 'boo boo' - it just jars but perhaps I shouldn't find it shocking anymore (and I know that I shouldn't be judgemental here but I can't help myself)

Purpletigers Fri 12-Jul-19 14:42:28

My childrens’ names have probably been in the top 100 for the last 100 years . I went for names which won’t date and don’t place them in any particular class.
I can’t in all honesty say “ lovely name “ if I don’t like it. I will comment on the cute baby instead .

juneybean Fri 12-Jul-19 14:44:13

Isn't pixie in her 20s, so hardly these days?

Unfortunately names do go in and out of fashion and unfortunately Rachel isn't in fashion at the moment.

MyOpinionIsValid Fri 12-Jul-19 14:45:42

You mean celebrity style names -

Poppy Honey Rose
Petal Blossom Rainbow
Daisy Boo Pamela
River Rocket Blue
Buddy Bear Maurice

or
Saint
Chicago
West
Psalm

or similar outlandish names ?

Catinthetwat Fri 12-Jul-19 14:46:24

My friends called their baby Richard. A very normal name for our generation, but definitely odd now. He will stand out for that name, as it bucks the trend.

Alfred, Wilfred, Ella, Audrey... All totally normal now.

It happens every single generation.

I should think people raised eyebrows when our grandparents generation started naming their children Barbara and Susan.

Alsohuman Fri 12-Jul-19 14:48:46

If they were using current pensioners’ names they’d be Linda, Susan, Karen, Shirley, Stephen, Robert, Michael, Graham, etc. The old fashioned currently in vogue date back to the late 19th/early 20th century. I like them personally.

I imagine a lot of kids with off the wall names will do what Zowie Bowie aka Duncan Jones did.

corythatwas Fri 12-Jul-19 14:49:52

But I wonder if by calling a kid born in 2019 something like 'john', would one seem equally try-hard and pretentious?

In a word, yes. What others have said about cycles. The young people naming children now won't find John an ordinary, everyday name, and their children as they grow up certainly won't. The names you associate with pensioners are probably the ones due for a comeback; the ones that seem normal to you are the ones that will remain "pensioners' names" for a little longer. This is the time of the Alfies. I expect Fiona and Deborah seemed quite daring when they were presented to your grandmother's generation and they'd certainly seem out of synch now. But give them another 20-30 years and they'll be fine.

corythatwas Fri 12-Jul-19 14:51:37

or maybe we should move to a system like Scandinavian countries where parents have to choose from a pre-approved list?

Which Scandinavian country are you talking about here? Certainly not Sweden. Beyond common sense (you can't call a child Satan or Mein Kampf) there is no list.

Iceland had a stipulation that names have to fit into their grammatical declension system (which has disappeared in the other Scandi languages) but even they are having to make some concessions now, I believe. And this was never about the names per se: it was about the risk of changing their language to a point where they would no longer be able to stay in touch with their old culture.

spiderlight Fri 12-Jul-19 14:53:40

I think it's Denmark that has the list.

Expressedways Fri 12-Jul-19 14:54:45

There’s an Anna and a John in DD’s class at daycare along with some more modern picks like Quinn and Hudson. I think there’s just a big variety of names than there used to be.

goodfornothinggnome Fri 12-Jul-19 14:55:11

I get what you mean.
I know someone who called their child Har-leiigh because its "special"

I managed to pull off a less common name with DD. People often comment that it's a nice name. Itll suit her when shes grown up and ot hasnt got a weird spelling.

recklessruby Fri 12-Jul-19 14:56:30

Names do go in cycles. I m the generation of karen/susan/Louise/julie and my parents wanted me to stand out so they chose what was then an old fashioned name.
Never met another one through my whole school years 70s/80s but now its one of the most popular names going. They are everywhere!
Ds was named after his df but dd is Emma born 1994. It was super popular then but i didn't care. I have loved the name since i was 14 and always wanted to be called it.
Outlandish names like zowie or scout i dont like though but would just say oh how lovely.
My cousin s boy is Gage which i think is a bit odd and my friend called her dd Fred. Not Frederica. Just Fred confused

custarddonut Fri 12-Jul-19 14:57:10

My own views and prejudices aside, am finding this chat very interesting, so thank you! Fiona - now that's a name I've not heard in a while :-)

But yes I suppose I do mean more celebrity-style wacky names but also, to a lesser extent, the dozens of Marlows, Arlos, Wilfreds etc.

Take the point that 'Richard' is almost provocative in its own way now...

Anyway - all very interesting so thanks again

WhyTho Fri 12-Jul-19 14:58:25

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Purpletigers Fri 12-Jul-19 14:59:43

I agree with you .
Classic names which could belong to any generation in the last 100 years are names like William, John , Samuel , George , Robert , Henry , James , Oliver , Charles, Mark, Philip , Hugh , Harry, Frederick, Simon , Andrew, Benjamin, Richard
Elizabeth , Ellen , Lucy, Anna , Charlotte , Catherine , Sarah, Mary
Names like Keith , Brian, Gary , Trevor , Darren , Kyle, Heather , Elaine , Michelle Claire have dated
Names like Rylee , Tyler,Kyla, Kayla, Keyano are well different and won’t stand the test of time.

Then you have the try hard names which the famous or middle classes strive for so you have lots of Sebastian,Hugo , Monty, Wilfred, Arlo, Ivo, Milo, Maud, Mabel, Ptolemy, Persephone etc

Names are fascinating.

Lsquiggles Fri 12-Jul-19 15:00:05

I'm 23 and agree, I've just had my first and it was important to me than her name was somewhat traditional as quirky names just aren't for me. I named her Rose which was my nans middle name, I think it's a shame such names are becoming less common but some of the quirkier names are nice too. Each to their own I guess smile

IntoValhalla Fri 12-Jul-19 15:01:16

I saw a thing the other day about name trends throughout history, and it would appear that lots of names have a “100 year comeback”. So names that were really popular in the 1920’s are likely to have a resurgence of popularity over the next few years.
Maybe in 2060-something there will be a load of baby Linda’s and Keith’s grin

Expressedways Fri 12-Jul-19 15:01:25

I’ve met 3 baby/toddler Fiona’s recently- it might just be having a come back!

MegaBlocks Fri 12-Jul-19 15:02:18

I don’t think you’re being unreasonable. But then again I’m probably being unreasonable too grin

I have an uncommon name and I absolutely hate it. People can’t spell it or pronounce it half the time. It’s awful I’ve seen it slated on here quite a few times blush

My children have normal names because of this. I mean not top 50 but well known not unusual bog standard names.

custarddonut Fri 12-Jul-19 15:03:24

DH and I often play a game where we think about announcing the birth of our first-born on facebook and wonder, if we picked a wacky name, whether any of our friends would blink twice. Persephone reminds me of that "Toast of London" programme's "Penvelope" (their take on penelope)

Purpletigers Fri 12-Jul-19 15:05:12

Rose is a beautiful and classic name . Good choice .
Rosalind is another very pretty but underused name .
My grandparents had fab names .

Hippee Fri 12-Jul-19 15:06:35

Purpletigers - I think you must live near me - I heard a parent shouting "Ptolemy" at the swimming baths grin

GummyGoddess Fri 12-Jul-19 15:07:37

Your friends could have been like me. Picked a name we liked, assumed as we liked it that others would too and therefore we would meet at least one other child with it. So far we have heard of a teenage one but not met a single other dc1 and everyone says how unusual it is. That isn't what I wanted, I was going for uncommon but not unheard of instead of ultra rare. I just didn't know any other children so had no idea what names would be out there.

custarddonut Fri 12-Jul-19 15:08:02

Yes I love Rose too, Rosalind nice also.

Ptolemy makes me cringe somewhat, I just think '"poor kid"

C305 Fri 12-Jul-19 15:09:18

As a reception teacher in quite a diverse area, for every 'wacky' name that you've mentioned, there are still loads of children with more 'top 10 name list' names, which do still tend to be the more traditional ones... still lots of Henry, Oliver, Jack, Rebecca, Emily, Jessica etc. but personally, I love having 30 different names with all different characters and have also taught my fair share of Princess, Snow, Dior etc! Names become somewhat unimportant when you actually get to know the people (children or adults) as you loose whatever association or pre conceived ideas you may have had with it previously and it just becomes them! Each to their own, variety is the space of life! I'm due in late September and although will by no means be making up my own name, I definitely want to be able to give my child a name where they won't constantly have to be known as their name + initial of surname at school!

Rosiesandposies1 Fri 12-Jul-19 15:11:04

Ds has left school now and is in university, but amongst his old friends he had:- Prince, Princess, Star, Moon, Heart, Mason, Harrison, Harper, Archie, Milo, Lucas, Fergus, Magnus, Cameron , Oskar, Avery, Aubrey, Jenson, Ivy, Iris, Theo and Trixie.

So they all seem ‘normal’ to me now that ds is almost 20. So I guess it is what you are also use too!

floribunda18 Fri 12-Jul-19 15:11:08

My daughter is 14. To her, names like Claire, Louise, Jennifer, Simon, Steve and John, which were very common in the 1970s and 1980s, sound like old lady/old man names to her and not "normal" at all, just as Gen X and Y's grandparents names, which have become more fashionable since the 00s, sounded old fashioned and grannyish to us when we were teenagers.

TealGreenBalloons Fri 12-Jul-19 15:11:54

Why on earth would you be disappointed at what someone else has called their child?

If you want to give your own kid a name from the top 10 now, or the top 10 from when you were growing up, or something completely outside the top 1000, then just do it. It's a bit weird to care so much about what other people are calling their children.

floribunda18 Fri 12-Jul-19 15:13:23

I don't think any of the top 100 girls or boys names sound wacky or weird.

WhateverHappenedToMe Fri 12-Jul-19 15:15:35

I know someone who has two children in their late 20s/early 30s. At the time they were born she gave them names that were "real" names but rarely used, so they would stand out without drawing too much comment.

Her children are Amelia and Oliver.

LondonJax Fri 12-Jul-19 15:16:12

When I was at school (late 60s/early 70s) the only Amy I knew was my nan's friend (who was in her 80s). The same with Emily. We had a few girls called Emma but no Emily. Henry and George were my elderly Uncles names along with William. Definitely none in my year at school or if there were they didn't let on as those names were considered old fashioned.

Fashions change, names come round again and that's really nice. It's nice to see the re-emergence of Emily, Will, Harry etc.,

Plus, don't forget, different cultures favour different names. We had a few Primroses and a Precious in my school, one Lucky and a Eugene - different cultures and ethnic backgrounds.

NiceLegsShameAboutTheFace Fri 12-Jul-19 15:16:12

It all comes down to individual preferences in the end.

I'm all about Rebecca and Rachael but I perfectly understand that many will prefer something more edgy.

Orangeballon Fri 12-Jul-19 15:17:33

I once received a CV from a female prospective employee and her name was Honey. CV went straight in the bin. No way was I calling a fellow employee Honey, anyway my dog at the time was called Honey and it would've been disrespectful to my dog.

nettie434 Fri 12-Jul-19 15:17:39

Ruby is a good example of a name that has changed completely in popularity. A few years ago, I would have assumed that it was somebody born in the very early 20th century.

I think it was France where they used to have an approved list of names but I don’t know if that rule still exists.

It’s hard to predict whether children will like their unusual names. Zowie Bowie famously uses Duncan Jones. However I have a friend who liked having an unusual first name as a child. I rather like that there is a much greater range of first names now. I remember at school a teacher said, ‘You mean there is no Susan in this class?’ We must have just been on the cusp of the name losing popularity.

Pemba Fri 12-Jul-19 15:17:59

Interesting what you say about names like Fiona which are considered middle aged (older middle aged?) names here now. (Although a pp says she knows a few babies?)

I have noticed in American TV dramas kids with names like Fiona and Ian. I think maybe popular over there now because they weren't popular in the 60s/70s like they were here in the UK. So they seem new and fresh names over there I suppose. Similarly, someone on here once said Claire is becoming popular in the US for babies, not Clara as we now have here. I guess Claire wasn't so ubiquitous in the 70s over there as here in the UK?

Jamsangwich Fri 12-Jul-19 15:18:09

The trouble with trendy names is that sooner or later, they're so common (and perceived as common, the horrid snobby meaning of the word) that the holders of such names start to wish they were called something else. Who calls their kids Sharon and Tracey now? Yet they're both really pretty names. My great neice is Amelia, and she's one of goodness knows how many Amelias born in 2018. It's just fashion, and maybe, one day, some girl in 2055 will like her Granny Tracey's name and will name HER baby Tracey!

Rosiesandposies1 Fri 12-Jul-19 15:18:57

And to be honest I would rather hear those names than- Wilfred, Phylis, Mary, Susannnah, Richard, John, Matthew, Mark, Michael, Susan, Barbara, Denis, Dennis, Charles, Francis, Leo, David and Diana. (I’ve just insulted have my family).

But to me? They are ‘old, boring names’ (had ds young so I’m not 40 yet!), they are parent and grandparent names. I like people having different names (within reason- Princess I still can’t get my head around, sorry), I think it’s nice, rather than a class with:- 3 Evie’s, 4 Oliviers, 2 Ella-May’s, 2 Daisy-Mai’s, 3 Archie’s. A friend taught a class last year, where only 4 children had a name, that no other in the class had. Anyone would think there’s not enough nice names in the world!

Jamsangwich Fri 12-Jul-19 15:20:28

Iceland has a list of first names that you must choose from, as far as I know. I think they're trying to keep their cultural names in use, to stop the odd nutter calling their kid "Moon-Unit" or whatever Frank Zappa called his wee girl. I think it was Moon-Unit!

TealGreenBalloons Fri 12-Jul-19 15:23:36

@Orangeballon so you discriminated against someone for a decision their parents made and they had no control over, who may have been fantastic at the job. Aren't you a great professional who we should all follow.

C305 Fri 12-Jul-19 15:25:30

@Orangeballon I really hope that's a joke. If not it's absolutely awful & HR should have been all over you like a rash.

reluctantbrit Fri 12-Jul-19 15:28:24

I prefer the German requirements, not a list but strict rules. The name has to identify the gender, it can’t be an object and it cannot make the child ridiculed.

So Saint, Bear, Apple or North wouldn’t work.

The only exception is that you prove a name is a “normal” name in a different country, so Mackenzie for a girl would be allowed as it is fairly often used in the US.

I think the old rule “how would an adult react hearing another adult with a name” is not a bad one. Joey as a child sounds nice but for an adult I would always think of an never grow up man. If you like cutey names choose a grown up version and shorten it.

IntoValhalla Fri 12-Jul-19 15:29:29

@Orangeballon that just says a lot about you as a person really hmm

AnnaMagnani Fri 12-Jul-19 15:32:35

Denmark has a list. It's a long list and allows for multi-cultural names and you can go off list if you can argue your case, but basically, there's a list.

IntoValhalla Fri 12-Jul-19 15:32:41

reluctantbrit
I used to work with a woman (mid-30’s) who was known to everyone as “Teddy” - her name was actually Theodora, named after her grandmother.
At least she has the option to use her real name if she wants to, or if she decides it’s more fitting. I know of one girl and one boy in my DD’s school year who are named Teddy, but that’s their actual, legal name blush Cute on a toddler. Not so cute on a middle aged woman.

ChihuahuaMummy1 Fri 12-Jul-19 15:33:04

I work in a school and we have an Albert and a Richard which you dont hear very often

Alsohuman Fri 12-Jul-19 15:34:12

Yes, it was Moonunit. And Grace Slick called her child god, the small g was for humility apparently.

Halloumimuffin Fri 12-Jul-19 15:36:20

@Orangeballon people of colour often face discrimination for having more unusual names and you seem a prime example as to why.

MammaMia19 Fri 12-Jul-19 15:36:34

I have one with a classic top 5 name, one with an old biddishy name but it’s not outlandish or spelt weirdly.
It’s more the spelling than the actual name that gets me, names like Skylah, daisee, Jayden, Kayden, Krystal, Rubie also there is an actual child named Charler too, it all make my eyes bleed!

custarddonut Fri 12-Jul-19 15:36:49

I do quite like the idea of names that can be shortened, to give an option as they grow up.

Whilst I wouldn't not interview someone based purely on their name, I do think that we are sometimes biased (consciously or otherwise) against particular types of names, rightly or wrongly.

To me, a name like "Princess" suggests parents who are a bit clueless / not very serious, and I might infer that their child hadn't benefited from more sober / serious parenting choices. I realise this makes me sound all kinds of judgemental here.

Halloumimuffin Fri 12-Jul-19 15:38:37

To me, a name like "Princess" suggests parents who are a bit clueless

I've worked with several women called Princess, they were all from the Phillipines where it is common to have more fantastical names.

custarddonut Fri 12-Jul-19 15:41:18

@halloumimuffin

Which is exactly why we shouldn't judge a book by its cover... but I think this does happen in reality, sadly.

Bezalelle Fri 12-Jul-19 15:43:28

My friend's cousin's doctor's cat knows a La-a. Honest, guv.

sirfredfredgeorge Fri 12-Jul-19 15:43:49

@Orangeballon I really hope that's a joke. If not it's absolutely awful & HR should have been all over you like a rash.

Indeed, and given the name Honey is commonly associated with particular protected characteristics, it could even be argued to be illegal, quite apart from being utterly ludicrous hiring decision.

KookyBeret Fri 12-Jul-19 15:45:04

@Orangeballon
That was a joke, wasn't it?!

gabsdot45 Fri 12-Jul-19 15:45:23

They have a list of permitted names in Denmark. My sister lives there. She gave her children Irish names, (we're Irish) and they were approved so i'm guessing it's quite an extensive list.

CharityConundrum Fri 12-Jul-19 15:46:45

I imagine a lot of kids with off the wall names will do what Zowie Bowie aka Duncan Jones did.

You mean use his given name as an adult? Zowie was one of his middle names.

stucknoue Fri 12-Jul-19 15:47:17

I know what you mean, all I can think is poor kid. Even Royals are doing it, giving surnames as first names and abbreviations. Traditionalist here with all bible names, even the dog!

hazeyjane Fri 12-Jul-19 15:48:38

Duncan Jones was named Duncan Zowie Haywood Jones. When he was younger he preferred Joey and as an adult goes by his first name. He obviously doesn't dislike the name Zowie too much, as his daughter is called Zowie. His son is Stenton (a family name).

PinkieTuscadero Fri 12-Jul-19 15:49:47

I once received a CV from a female prospective employee and her name was Honey. CV went straight in the bin.

This makes you sound like a total moron. I have to go through a lot of CVs and tbh the name doesn't really register unless it's the name of someone already known to me. I just want to check their previous experience and cover letter. Give me a Honey who meets the job spec over an unimpressive Sarah any day of the week.

MyOpinionIsValid Fri 12-Jul-19 15:49:57

@Orangeballon to be fair, Ive worked in places where that happens. And post code checking of the home address. That will happen with blue chip employers.

Snidpan Fri 12-Jul-19 15:51:58

there was a super ridiculous amount of Jacks and Connors a few years back. Did the parents not realise that every boy born for the previous 3 years were called Jack or Connor? And maybe Reece.
Hands up, who thought they should christen their son Jack, because everybody else had?

TealGreenBalloons Fri 12-Jul-19 15:52:19

@reluctantbrit

I think the old rule “how would an adult react hearing another adult with a name” is not a bad one. Joey as a child sounds nice but for an adult I would always think of an never grow up man. If you like cutey names choose a grown up version and shorten it.

This is so subjective though. Personally I'd think nothing of hearing Joey as an adult. I know one (female) and so to me it's a perfectly acceptable adult name. It's the same with Teddy- more and more boys have this has their full name instead of Theodore or Edward etc that it's not unusual now, and certainly won't be in 20 years, for an adult to have this 'cutesy' name that some people see as a nickname.

Myheartbelongsto Fri 12-Jul-19 15:53:11

I know someone who had a Betty not long ago.

itsaseaturtles Fri 12-Jul-19 15:54:32

I think if you are that bothered by it, then you need a hobby.

Who cares what they are called? And what is "normal"? Why is it bad to be outside of normal?

Snidpan Fri 12-Jul-19 15:59:32

www.thedailymash.co.uk/features/agony-aunt/ask-holly-dear-brooklyn-dont-worry-there-are-lots-of-children-in-my-school-with-silly-names-too-20170803133393
www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/stupid-people-still-allowed-to-name-children-200912232335
www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/no-one-sure-how-to-tell-couple-all-their-baby-names-are-all-ridiculous-20170818134247

x2boys Fri 12-Jul-19 15:59:49

Names that were popular when I get was growing up such as John , David, Matthew ,Sarah ,Jane ,Clare etc etc just seem quite dated now they will come in and out of fashion though, I went to school with a Grace for example in the 80,s it is as very old fashioned than ,but you can ,t move without falling over a little Grace now , I also think every generation has their names that are fashionable for a time but probably won't come back into fashion ,so I can't imagine sudden influx,s of Waynes, Darren,s Karen's ,Michelle's etc just as the popular names of today Lexie, Jayden,etc are probably of our time.

shinynewapple Fri 12-Jul-19 15:59:51

Lol @Snidpan that was me! DH and I had names that were a bit unusual and hated them so wanted DS to have a 'popular ' name - but then found every other kid in the playground had the same name!

Dontsweatthelittlestuff Fri 12-Jul-19 16:06:51

Wen I named my first son I gave him a pretty normal biblical name which was about 320 odd in the popularity list of names. Within a few years it had moved down to the top 10 and has hovered in the top 20 ever since.
My second son again has a perfectly normal name that hasn’t become popular again. It has hovered around the high 200s for years and even now I have never heard of a man his age with the name but I have 2 relatives of my generation both with the name.

ContinuityError Fri 12-Jul-19 16:07:10

Hippee

I heard a parent shouting "Ptolemy" at the swimming baths

Was he having a silent P? smile

crustycrab Fri 12-Jul-19 16:07:14

I'm shocked at the number of people that don't realise how recruitment works. Some jobs will get tens of thousands of applicants. The first sift can be extremely brutal.

Anyone with a picture on the front - bin
Anyone signing off with a xx - bin

"Honey is commonly associated with particular protected characteristics" and wtf? confused like what??

TheCatThatDanced Fri 12-Jul-19 16:08:51

What I find hilarious is a name my DB's SIL chose for their baby (now 2) is Esmee - they thought they were being unique. Loads of Esmee's in her class at nursery etc.

My DC's names are actually 'normal' with a touch of unique - not saying what they are.

I had a childhood friend called Kelly who asked to be called by her middle name which I won't name - it's kind of unusual but not that unusual either.

Neighbours DD's DD newborn is called Ada.

Myheartbelongsto - I know a 6 year old little girl called Betty.

Kerantli Fri 12-Jul-19 16:10:10

@Rosiesandposies1, you insulted half of the males in my family too grin

Both DS's have older names, though DS2 seems to have a more popular name than DS1.
I can see there being many DS2 names around in the coming years in schools, I know of at least two that were born in the last couple years (DS2 is 10, I didn't know his name would get more popular over time, but at least I know it'll sort of stand the test of time)

TheCatThatDanced Fri 12-Jul-19 16:10:51

Myself I do have a very unusual name - won't say what it is but its 'foreign' - I have no connection to that country etc - and I have a very British surname - so probably why I went down the route of normal/unique.

DB however also has an unusual 'forrin' name and he's inflicted his DS with a European/Scandi name - it's ok - luckily the child has 2 other names - one is his DGF's which is normal!

TheCatThatDanced Fri 12-Jul-19 16:12:04

ContuityError

Trust me - apart from me - if I was called Ptolemy - as soon as I could change it by deed poll or use a middle or other name then I would. Ptolemy is plain cruel. grin

Lunde Fri 12-Jul-19 16:13:09

Which Scandinavian country are you talking about here? Certainly not Sweden. Beyond common sense (you can't call a child Satan or Mein Kampf) there is no list.

Although Sweden has naming legislation - 5 men have managed to register Chewbacca as a name!

Minai Fri 12-Jul-19 16:13:33

I find it so interesting how names come around in circles. And how names we now think of old fashioned in a nice way were once thought of as an old person name and wouldn’t be used.

Also I’m looking forward to my sons (who are now babies) in future announcing that they are planning to call their kids Marjorie or Derek and me trying not to make a face grin

Lifepanic1234 Fri 12-Jul-19 16:20:55

As a kid my role model was Pippi Longstocking and I would have so liked to have her full name: Pippilotta Viktualia Rullgardina Krusmynta.

I have looked it up in most European languages and the Italian version is gorgeous: Pippilotta Pesanella Tapparella Succiamenta (the English is: Pippilotta Delicatessa Windowshade Mackrelmint).

I have boys so no Pippilotta Pesanella wondering on the streets of Surrey. But happy for someone else to pick that one up!

corythatwas Fri 12-Jul-19 16:31:31

I think the old rule “how would an adult react hearing another adult with a name” is not a bad one.

This is where you really need to specify: an adult of which generation? Somebody who is an adult when the child is a child (and may be dead by the time the child is seeking promotion or standing for PM) or somebody who will be an adult when they are an adult?

As for the people who would bin an application with a slightly unusual name (Honey was mentioned), you do realise that this means you are highly likely to discriminate against people of African or Afro-American descent (whose families may actually be boringly normal)? Is that a good look for your company?

FancyACarrot Fri 12-Jul-19 16:39:50

YABU

Tavannach Fri 12-Jul-19 16:40:05

his daughter is called Zowie

That's interesting.

NannyRed Fri 12-Jul-19 16:45:04

And?........

Did they name your child too? No? Well don’t bloody worry about it then.

I’m atheist but like biblical names, think Sarah, elizabeth, Rebecca. I have no cooking issues with people calling their offspring Jaxon, Clayton or Red. So why do you have an issue with parents naming their own children names you don’t approve?

At least they managed to name them, one of my pet peeves is the simpering mumsnetter who asks “which name is best?” When I’m all.....”sorry love, if you can’t name your offspring, maybe don’t get pregnant”.

Maybe try worrying about issues that directly affect you instead of poking your nose into other people’s lives.

Nomorepies Fri 12-Jul-19 16:48:27

YABU to care what strangers call their children

MrsBethel Fri 12-Jul-19 16:55:00

YANBU

It's not clever. It's not edgy.

It just makes the parents look a bit thick and infantile.

And that's the same for stupid chav names (full of zeds, weird spellings, alcohol references, etc) as it is for stupid middle class names like Gethsemane or Badger.

The only good in it is that the kids can change them when they hit 16, and, despite feigning approval, we can have a god laugh about the parents behind their back.

TheTitOfTheIceberg Fri 12-Jul-19 17:06:09

I'm shocked at the number of people that don't realise how recruitment works.

I'm shocked that some recruiters haven't established a more professional and less discriminatory way of sifting than indulging their biases about names. If you're getting tens of thousands of applications, put the process online and include a couple of key skills tests/pre-sift questions that prevent the candidate progressing if they fail.

PinkieTuscadero Fri 12-Jul-19 17:07:59

Although Sweden has naming legislation - 5 men have managed to register Chewbacca as a name!

Never underestimate the determination of a sci-fi geek!

Alsohuman Fri 12-Jul-19 17:08:42

I used to work with a guy who changed his name to Rory Borealis. He was as much of a tit as this suggests.

Rowenaravenclawsdiadem Fri 12-Jul-19 17:09:38

I have a Honey I gave her a ‘normal’ middle name that she could use professionally if she so wished.

She hates it.

She also got bullied by another Honey at
Primary school as the other Honey was pissed off she wasn’t the only one.

coffeeaddiction Fri 12-Jul-19 17:18:02

I don't mind an unusual name as long as it can be used at any age without sounding daft , personally I can't ever imagine a prime minister with the name 'pixie' or 'star'

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