Have I just been ditched by a good friend?(47 Posts)
We have just finished school. City prep, some dc move on to next schools at 13, others at 11. DD is moving now aged 11.
We have been there since the dc were 2yrs old at nursery, so we both have lots of friends, we organised a disco for the year before leaving.
One of my closest friends, a family we have been close to since the beginning, and dds get on well (although both are part of different friendship groups etc) We go on holiday every summer, every easter have one or the other for dinner and without fail we see them every new year. I considered her to be a very good friend.
My friend has been fine, and up until a week ago everything has been pretty normal. However they did not turn up to the disco for the leavers. My friend said she was out with her other friends that day. I thought it was a little strange, as I would have thought she would want to be there as it was our last dat, but anyway I understood she may not be able to make it.
I asked her if she is coming to my house for a bbq planned over the weekend (she has originally said yes), she said now she has made plans elsewhere.
I saw her in passing with friends, and she barely spoke to me.
I honestly don't know why she would do this, only that she has form in the past when other friends have left, she took it very personally and was upset with them and stopped meeting up with them. I did not think she would be the same with us, as our friendship spans nearly twelve years.
I sent her a message to ask her if everything is okay, and got a very formal message back wishing me a good summer.
I don't know what to do. I feel she is angry we have left maybe, but hasn't said as much. I don't know whether to keep contacting her, or to leave it now.
I am now left wondering if I have served my purpose and she has moved on? Or is she right to be upset with me? Have I overlooked something?
Thanks for your replies. Sorry that others had this happen to them It is crap.
I am in two minds now. One half thinking it is worth keeping the door open as she could be feeling protective, the other thinking I have been played and should keep what is left of my dignity!!
We had a great time together. Good friends, she is life and soul anyway, so it is not difficult to like her. Everyone does. We have a very similar outlook too. I just did not imagine our friendship ending up on the scrapheap.
We go away together most summers with dc and dh, not every summer but often. Always had a good time. I couldn't do it this year as we have a family 'destination' wedding. She was totally cool about not going. She is going with other friends now.
What do I do? It is not the end of the world, no one died, but she was a friend I could pick up the phone and say everything has gone to shit can you come over, and vica versa.
minge No dd has had a great time at school. All good on that front. Friend's dd is being nice. No problems there.
Have you posted about this before? Your DC got into a good school and was being left out as leaving before the others?
Definitely not jealousy issues, as dd is going to be a good school but not one that would make anyone say wow or anything.
fudge arseholes in kittens clothing made me laugh so much!
Just This was the outcome I thought it would be. Luckily we have other friends, but still, I really like her and all of the dc etc.
Nanny I would love to call her and ask her what the problem is, that is more in line with my style as a person, but I know her well enough to guess she won't tell me, she'll gloss over it. She won't like being called out on shitty behaviour.
Hero I wonder if that could be right, she is getting in first, because in her mind we are moving on. I have been thinking about sending her something just to see, but would feel even worse if this was ignored as well.
I think being ditched is different to friendships moving on, and that friendships do move on as life changes. I would try not to take it too personally.
I would reply purely with, "Yes, you too."
Then just leave it!
It sounds to me as though your DC has gained a place at a sought after private secondary school at 11 leaving her DD to try to gain a place at 13. She is probably very stressed about this and your presence reminds her of this. The U.K. school system is sufficiently competitive and stressful that it does cause parental friendships to fracture.
This happened with a friend of mine. While we managed to stay friends, it was never quite the same afterwards.
You sound close.
Send her a 'jokey' text along the lines of...
"Hmmmm anyone would think you were trying to ditch me now that DD is leaving school?' (insert: passive/aggressive smiley face). When are you free then Missus?"
That's what I"d do.
You say you went on holiday together every year? With your respective husbands/partners? This was your main summer family holiday or some sort of extra trip? (Skiing maybe?) That says much more than a school gates friendship to me, how odd. But why do you not already have this year’s holiday arranged?
I had a good friend like that when dd was small. Our girls went through nursery right through to year 6. We hung out in the holidays, she used to spend most summers at mine on the garden with both her dcs, we had many bbqs at my house, did afterschool stuff together and the girls were best friends. We moved house halfway through year 6, the girls stayed in contact, had them over for a meal as a family a few times, then she stopped replying to texts, stopped commenting on fb posts, replied they were busy when invited anywhere.
Dunno what changed, think the girls starting secondary and organising their own social lives meant she didn't need us anymore. Was sad for about 3 days then thought fuck it. Her loss not mine.
You’ve got nothing to lose, so you may as well see if you can get to the bottom of it. I couldn’t let it go - it would make me either sad or cross, depending on my mood! I’d probably text something along the lines of “Hi X, can’t help feeling things are a bit off at the moment. Is everything ok?” If she replies honestly, you have the opening of a discussion to sort it out. If she sends another brush off formal reply along the lines of have a good summer I’d write back and say “Thanks we will. Baffled about what’s happened, but you always know where I am!”
I’d always try not to fall out with someone I cared about. She may be a user, in which case you’ll be better off. Or she might be going through something and handling it badly, in which case the door has been left open for her to come back when she’s sorted herself out
I think you just have to ask her directly. If you are such good friends, it shouldn't be a problem to ask her.
Is there any chance she feels offended by something? I’ve been kicked out of a school clique because I turned them down for one of their play dates. I ended up calling them on it and they blamed me. We had very different views of the same event. So is there any chance she thinks you’ve done something? I’m just saying this to be devils advocate, I hope you don’t mind x
Believe people when they tell you who they are - sounds like a social networker rather than a friend in my view.
So, if you usually go on holiday together every summer, when is this normally arranged?
Do you think she may have just assumed that leaving the school means you will be leaving your friendship behind?
I'd possibly text her and say that you hope just because DD has left school, you'll still be able to see each other as often and that you value the friendship.
Something about this just makes me feel your friend may be feeling insecure and hurt and is getting in first and dumping your friendship before you do. (Childish I know but adults often are).
There is a saying that ‘friends come into our life for a reason, a season or a lifetime’. It seems that for your friend you were there for the reason or the season only. It’s sad, but it doesn’t mean that you weren’t genuinely friends while it lasted.
She might be one of those people who don’t see the “point” in the friendship anymore because the common denominator is gone.
That sounds mad but I do know people with this attitude!
I've come across this too, it does seem strange but not much anyone can do about it.
Another thing I've heard about is friends finding the friendship too full on, and backing away. They still like the person but prefer not to be involved any more because they can't cope.
Yet another is a feeling that person knows too much about them and suddenly they feel exposed and insecure.
Nowt as queer as folk.
I'd give it another bash OP, especially if you enjoy the friendship. Send her a message and see if she wants to meet up for a coffee, or a glass of wine and a catchup one evening. She might just need a bit of encouragement. Or she might just be a bit busy!
I have experienced similar recently.
I have a very good friend, one of my closest friends - our friendship went from acquaintances to very good friends when our first children were born. I had another fairly quickly and she waited a few years - our eldest children started school last year and she essentially ditched me as I was no longer most suited to her lifestyle, she made it clear she wanted to make friends at the school gate with younger children the same age as her youngest.
We’re still friends but it’s not the same. It really stung and I found it almost unbelievable as it’s the total opposite of my attitude to friendship but now I have got used to it and chalked it up to experience.
I’m sorry it’s happening to you too, it sucks.
It's something I've noticed that people either tend to be the type to maintain friendships once an era has ended or they prefer to cut ties and move on.
I'm in the former category but have twice had people I considered to be good friends resist keeping in touch once our original reason for meeting had ended. I found it hard to accept at the time but I understand it a bit better now and can see that it comes down to lots of factors including personality type.
Try not to take it personally.
TBH I don't think this is that uncommon. Lots of parents are friendly whilst your DC are part of their DCs circle at school but drop you or relegate you to "we must meet up sometime" status once your DC has changed schools. They just don't see the point in continuing the acquaintance.
Not something to take personally I would have thought
She may well have rejections issues as Thomas says and this is her way of getting in first. This sounds like a pattern. She will be spinning this in her head as you rejecting her though.
If you want to send her a message, send a kind one. You have nothing to lose as you’ve already been rejected. Maybe something simple and along the lines of. “I am really sad this is the end of an era. I really hope we can stay friends. I really do value your friendship.” If you do want to stay friends, I definitely wouldn’t comment on her recent communication. These are probably protection. If you bring them up, she will likely shut down.
I have to be honest. Your phrasing made me think you were thr child. Because you say we were at school, we are leaving, it is our last day. But it seems from the responses it's not you it's your daughter who is at school, who is leaving, whose last day it is?
Either way it seems for some reason she's ended your friendship.
I wonder if she’s got in there first? Some people are so frightened of being dropped they do the dropping preemptively.
It’s up to you, you could send her a bunch of flowers, tell her that you’re sorry that she’s not free to see you anymore, and that you’ll miss her. Or you could chalk it up to experience and just move on, a bit sadder and wiser.
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