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What on earth is going on in America??

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Nanny0gg · 15/05/2019 10:27

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48275795

How can a supposedly 'civilised' society pass such a retrograde law?

And other states following suit?

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nancy75 · 15/05/2019 10:32

Sharia law - Christian style!

All the people that support this will bleat on about their freedoms, their right to have a gun, their right to free speech but they are happy to take away women's rights to body autonomy

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badlydrawnperson · 15/05/2019 10:33

OP you might care to take a look at the UK before making such an assertion. Whilst I don't disagree with you sentiment, we can hardly cast aspersions when we have our own home grown example.

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Nesssie · 15/05/2019 10:36

Disgusting. Cannot believe they are going backwards on this issue. Hopefully it'll get blocked at every avenue.

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AutumnCrow · 15/05/2019 10:37

I'm bloody horrified. There will end up being a horribly dangerous black market in abortions. Wealthier women or girls from wealthier families will use clinics in Canada and Mexico or more progressive states; poorer women and girls will be thrown under a bus.

But let's not forget that within the UK a similar system exists in Northern Ireland, where women and girls must find money to travel for an abortion (and, mostly, keep it a secret).

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nancy75 · 15/05/2019 10:38

Particularly nice that they didn't pass the exemption for rape or incest.

The sperm of a rapist is worth more than the rights of a rape victim

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badlydrawnperson · 15/05/2019 10:39

But let's not forget that within the UK a similar system exists in Northern Ireland, where women and girls must find money to travel for an abortion (and, mostly, keep it a secret

Exactly.

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nancy75 · 15/05/2019 10:40

Northern Ireland should be brought in to line with the rest of the UK without a doubt, however the laws there are preexisting and are being rallied against - in the USA they are actually going backwards

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TheInebriati · 15/05/2019 10:42

They are also talking about banning some forms of contraception that work post fertilisation, such as the coil.

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HoustonBess · 15/05/2019 10:46

The same people who are pushing hard right issues in the US are bankrolling brexit. We have plenty of work to do here without worrying about the US so much.

Many of the brexit party types are from spiked, a media source funded by the Koch brothers who are the worst of the right.

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Spinnaret · 15/05/2019 10:48

Do women from NI get prosecuted if they come to Britain for a termination? (Not that they should have to etc).
Women in the US will risk prosecution if they go out of state. And it is rolling backwards. Whereas in NI, it 'just' hasn't rolled forward.

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Persimmonn · 15/05/2019 10:48

The sperm of a rapist is worth more than the rights of a rape victim

Chilling.

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Nesssie · 15/05/2019 10:48

We have plenty of work to do here without worrying about the US so much. I think we are all capable of worrying about multiple issues, and this one is a pretty major step back for women's right.

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JohnWolfenstein · 15/05/2019 10:48

Gilead

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DaisiesAreOurSilver · 15/05/2019 10:49

Frightening.

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GiveMyHeadPeaceffs · 15/05/2019 10:49

Women from NI are not prosecuted for travelling for an abortion, so not quite the same. However it's about time NI was forced to come under the same laws as the rest of GB.

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DGRossetti · 15/05/2019 10:50

OP you might care to take a look at the UK before making such an assertion. Whilst I don't disagree with you sentiment, we can hardly cast aspersions when we have our own home grown example.

The rape clause for child tax credits for a start. Barbaric and guaranteed to cause child poverty. People (including women) voted Tory knowing it was going to happen. And they wonder why they're contemptible.

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SemperIdem · 15/05/2019 10:52

As I see it -NI’s abortion law is backwards but momentum being gained towards bringing them in line with rest of the UK.

The USA’s abortion laws are in line with the 21st century thinking of most Western nations but momentum is being gained towards going backwards and removing women’s bodily autonomy.

I find what is being actively worked for in the USA far more worrying than what is being worked for in NI, as a result.

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Karmin · 15/05/2019 10:53

But why did Alabama vote for this?

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Karmin · 15/05/2019 10:54

In 2018 some 58% of the US population thought abortion should be legal in all or most cases, while 37% said it should be illegal in all or most cases

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Hopeygoflightly · 15/05/2019 10:54

Yes bloody Americans! EXCEPT - oh, look there's a part of the UK that has neither abortion OR marriage equality, against the wishes of the majority of the people who live there. AND Westminister seem to give a flying F@ck about that. People in glass houses.

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BarbarianMum · 15/05/2019 10:55

Gilead is what'shappening. Let's hope the response is a reopening of the underground railway. Sad

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nancy75 · 15/05/2019 10:58

Hopeygoflightly just because Westminster don't care about NI doesn't mean everyone doesn't care.
America is actively going backwards on Women's rights when it comes to body autonomy & it's possible to be angry about both situations at the same time.

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Bentley111 · 15/05/2019 10:58

The sperm of a rapist is worth more than the rights of a rape victim

Truly sickening.

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badlydrawnperson · 15/05/2019 10:59

I can't help feeling religion has a role in Alabama and NI. I know it's not fair to tar everyone with the same brush, but religious zealots are at least a part of the problem.

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nancy75 · 15/05/2019 11:02

You have to wonder if the wife of one of those men that voted for this became pregnant due to rape (which I sincerely hope never happens) would they stand by her and raise the baby as their own?
My guess would be not

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