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AIBU?

To think that these passengers should have criminal charges brought

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HuntIdeas · 09/05/2019 08:04

After the tragedy of the Aeroflot flight where 41 people died, it sounds like other passengers stopping to get bags out of overhead lockers might have delayed the evacuation and caused some of the deaths!

AIBU to think that the passengers who deliberately took the time to stop and get bags out of overhead lockers, delaying evacuation of passengers behind while the aircraft was on fire, should have criminal charges brought? They directly caused some deaths!

Obviously, in reality it would be difficult to prove who caused what. However, just talking about bringing charges and making it a criminal offence to retrieve baggage in emergency situations would maybe stop other passengers from doing it next time

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Pardonwhat · 09/05/2019 08:11

I’m not sure I believe in heaven and hell, but there’d be a special place in hell for the type of people that would even consider their bags at a time like that.
I think they should face criminal prosecution. I’d be utterly ashamed if I knew them.

FiremanKing · 09/05/2019 08:13

You don’t know how you would behave in a crash. Some people go on auto pilot and retrieving their bag from the overhead locker as they would depart from a plane that landed safely is their way of maintaining calm.

Or maybe they had sentimental or cherished items or important documents that they didn’t want to leave behind.

bamboofibre · 09/05/2019 08:14

Nothing will happen, much less prosecution.

LuckyAmy1986 · 09/05/2019 08:15

Or maybe they had sentimental or cherished items or important documents that they didn’t want to leave behind

Oh, that makes it alright then....

Disfordarkchocolate · 09/05/2019 08:16

I imagined they panicked, some people are wonderful in an emergency, some people go into auto pilot.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 09/05/2019 08:18

Bloody hell! I haven't done the news this morning but I thought Aeroflot said the evacuation was very quick, 50 odd seconds rather than the more usual 90 seconds...

ZoeWashburne · 09/05/2019 08:19

Or maybe they had sentimental or cherished items or important documents that they didn’t want to leave behind

Please name one sentimental or cherished item, or important document that is worth more than another human's life? I'll wait.

Pardonwhat · 09/05/2019 08:22

FiremanKing

And I bet other people had lives they wanted to get back to.
Even if the total uphold time of people retrieving luggage case to something small like 15 seconds - imagine the extra people that could have escaped?
Who even THINKS about bags in those circumstances?
I don’t think panic is an excuse for this one.

cannoninD · 09/05/2019 08:22

Unfortunately OP I think dark chocolate has nailed it!

You can’t hold people accountable for their behaviour in truly unique, life and death, panic situations.

Disfordarkchocolate · 09/05/2019 08:25

I think I'd be rubbish in an emergency. When you hear of people who are calm, brave or even get on with their jobs I am always amazed and glad these people are around.

Kpo58 · 09/05/2019 08:27

Maybe some people took stuff out of the lockers as they had to wait a short amount of time for those Infront to move out of they way so they could get off the plane. If you had a spare 20 seconds not being able to go anywhere, wouldn't you be tempted to use that time to get a small bag out?

JacquesHammer · 09/05/2019 08:27

It is really easy to pass judgement with the virtue of hindsight and distance.

It is near impossible to say how you would react in an emergency situation.

cannoninD · 09/05/2019 08:28

@pardonwhat

🤔 have you been in a situation like that?

I was once caught up in the middle of a terrorist scare in a large London train station a few years ago! Armed police running around, barriers coming down around us to cut off entrances/exits. Everyone freaking out and running around.

I consider myself a practical person. But it was all just a haze. I knew the station very well but still struggled to get out. You don’t think like you normally do. My mind was half on what I was doing and half on what would happen to my family/ crazy thoughts

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User199999999o9o999 · 09/05/2019 08:29

Admittedly some may have panicked.

Pardonwhat · 09/05/2019 08:29

cannoninD

Running around, hysteria etc. Of course. I can even half understand why people speed off in panic after hitting someone with their car.
But stopping to get luggage? I struggle.

StickyBlisteredAnus · 09/05/2019 08:30

If someone was delaying me getting off a burning plane I’d punch them out of the way. No excuse for such gormless behaviour

Passthecherrycoke · 09/05/2019 08:30

I find this OP really odd tbh. Do you know anything about Russian law? Are there laws that could be applied to this sort of situation?
What you’re really saying is your want to legislate against human behaviour in an emergency (not caused by them) I can’t see how that’s in any way appropriate

JacquesHammer · 09/05/2019 08:31

I’d punch them out of the way

Because potentially starting a fight in an enclosed space in a panic situation is the way to go?

OddBoots · 09/05/2019 08:32

There is no way people on that plane were thinking logically.

There needs to be some thought put in to working out how to stop it happening in future but it needs to be a system not an accusation as in the extremes we don't have the same thinking and processing.

Alienspaceship · 09/05/2019 08:33

I prefer to think people were in shock, panicking, not thinking straight and went into auto pilot taking their bags.
I was in a bad car accident on a motorway and climbed back into my car to retrieve my handbag. Years later I still wonder what on Earth I was thinking - but I was just in shock.

RattyTat · 09/05/2019 08:34

Panic is an excuse for this one. People behave in the strangest ways during emergencies. It's very common to behave as though everything is normal hence taking the bags off the plane. It's a well known phenomenon.

Theimpossiblegirl · 09/05/2019 08:35

I was horrified when I read this. There is no excuse for not following the instructions and getting off that plane. I don't know how someone could live with themselves knowing that getting their bag could well have cost people their lives.

MarthasGinYard · 09/05/2019 08:35

I once performed CPR on an A/C and had pax asking when they would get fed

Also a decompression where more than one pax removed their pull down mask to have a spoon on chocolate pudding or a slurp of tea.

Nothing sunrises me anymore.

HuntIdeas · 09/05/2019 08:36

Bloody hell! I haven't done the news this morning but I thought Aeroflot said the evacuation was very quick, 50 odd seconds rather than the more usual 90 seconds...

When they said that the evacuation was completed in 55 seconds, they mean that whoever didn’t get out by then was burnt to death (ie the last survivor left the plane after 55 seconds).

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