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Leavers being so dead against a second referendum is just proof they know they'll lose, surely?

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stillpinching Sun 07-Apr-19 13:14:46

If we had one and they won again it would be the ultimate confirmation that it really is the will of the people.

By refusing to countenance it and describing it as a betrayal they may as well say it's not the will of the people anymore we're insisting on honouring something no one with any sense and without a vested interest wants and we should therefore call it off.

We're being forced into something the people who most support it clearly know is no longer the people's choice that's going to do horrible damage to the country. Just why can no one stop it???

NowIKnowHowJoanFelt Sun 07-Apr-19 13:19:54

If parliament are working so very hard to to dishonour the result of the first referendum why should any leave voters have any confidence that they would honour the result of a second should the vote again be to leave?

gamerchick Sun 07-Apr-19 13:22:17

Oooo it's this thread again. My time machine works grin

HarrySnotter Sun 07-Apr-19 13:24:54

If parliament are working so very hard to to dishonour the result of the first referendum why should any leave voters have any confidence that they would honour the result of a second should the vote again be to leave?

I believe that the first referendum has been found to have broken many laws? Surely, if people really do believe in a democracy, they would wish the laws of the land to be adhered to, in all circumstances, not just the ones which suit them?

QueenoftheBiscuitTin Sun 07-Apr-19 13:30:53

Hasn't this been done to death?

gamerchick Sun 07-Apr-19 13:43:41

Yeah it has. Over and over and over and over.

People will say 'you dont have to click on it' but equally those people can bugger off to the Brexit board so the rest of us don't have to do ground hog day.

At least come out with some new shit other than it was illleeeegal, it was advviiiiisery, wail, weep, nash teeth. I'm sure people just have phrases stored somewhere they copy and paste on all threads.

Personally I'm really enjoying watching the Tories make themselves extinct. Shit happens for a reason.

catx1606 Sun 07-Apr-19 13:47:23

We're being forced into something the people who most support it clearly know is no longer the people's choice that's going to do horrible damage to the country. Just why can no one stop it???

How do you know that its clearly no longer the people's choice?

Leavers don't want another referendum because one was done almost three years ago. We were told that they would honor the result and so far it hasn't been done.

AlexaAmbidextra Sun 07-Apr-19 13:52:30

😴😴😴. Ffs give it a rest.

HarrySnotter Sun 07-Apr-19 14:05:22

I'm sure people just have phrases stored somewhere they copy and paste on all threads.

You mean, like this? At least come out with some new shit other than it was illleeeegal, it was advviiiiisery, wail, weep, nash teeth. gringringrin

Mummyoflittledragon Sun 07-Apr-19 14:11:52

It’s gnash. Silent g. If you’re going to copy paste, you can get it right next time.

gamerwidow Sun 07-Apr-19 14:14:03

I'm a remainer but I can see why Leaver's wouldn't want another one for reasons other than they will definitely lose:
1) It takes a long time to set up a referendum which is going to delay Brexit
2) Having a referendum means having EU elections in May which they do not want
3) If everyone votes yes again it's a massive waste of time and money.
4) They have the result they want now why take the chance of it going to other way even if you are reasonably confident it'll still come out as Leave.

Personally I think any new referendum will be extremely close and I honestly couldn't call which way it would go.

I would like to revoke A50 based on what we now know but that's a whole other thread grin

gamerchick Sun 07-Apr-19 14:14:54

It’s gnash. Silent g. If you’re going to copy paste, you can get it right next time

Aw right in the feelz man grin

Clavinova Sun 07-Apr-19 14:23:10

What would Leavers be voting for?

Keir Starmer (Labour's Shadow Brexit Secretary) told Sky News in February - that a no-deal Brexit should not be an option on the ballot paper in a second referendum - only credible (his words) Leave options allowed.That's a problem then.

Clavinova Sun 07-Apr-19 14:24:18

That's a problem then.

Chloemol Sun 07-Apr-19 14:58:32

Yet another thread, adk Mumsnet to move it to the brexit thread YABU to post it here

Eateneasterchocsalready Sun 07-Apr-19 15:05:33

I'm happy to have another in such a short time, as long as we can then haveanother if the result is remain maybe the following year?

So much is happening right now in EU... More information will be available to remainers ..so yes, sure.

Let's have another ( and another and yet another)

Babygrey7 Sun 07-Apr-19 15:06:25

I think you'd be surprised OP

I am a remainer, who is sick of other remainers pushing for a re-vote and branding leavers as racist thicko's....

DH and I would vote leave now, even if it means hard Brexit, just to get out of this shit situation. Burn the bridges,and start negotiating.

Just fucking do it, you bunch of useless politicians, all in it for their own job, just.do.it.

This is how a previous remainer feels.

Bet I am not the only one

Helspopje Sun 07-Apr-19 15:08:20

Because it would set a president that is unconstitutional- if you don’t get the result you want, just keep doing the vote over and over again until you get the result you want.

Makes one person, one vote worthless.

Helspopje Sun 07-Apr-19 15:09:00

* Precedent *

Babygrey7 Sun 07-Apr-19 15:09:46

Precedent

President is something totally different grin

But yeah, that is also a point

Helspopje Sun 07-Apr-19 15:11:27

Don’t be a smart arse
I corrected the autocorrect already

PinkHeart5914 Sun 07-Apr-19 15:14:22

Where does it all stop?

So say remain won the next vote, then leavers stamp feet and whinge on and on like the ramainers have until they get another vote.

Where do you draw the line?

You can’t give the public a vote and then give them another one because you didn’t like the winning side of the vote you gave them!

BeerandBiscuits Sun 07-Apr-19 15:43:42

Where do you draw the line?

Have a referendum every 3 years. Because people might change their minds about leaving/joining in that time so it's only fair grin.

sonlypuppyfat Sun 07-Apr-19 15:47:46

I think I read somewhere that every poll says people would still vote to leave, it's only london who want to remain

Palepinkpalepink Sun 07-Apr-19 15:49:15

I voted leave. Bring on another referendum.

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