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narisha99 Tue 02-Apr-19 15:39:20

We are going on holiday on Friday and won't be back until mid April - We are driving across Europe so potentially need an International Driving License if we leave the EU when we are away.

Tried my local post office last week, they had run out of forms and assured me they would have them by today. Tried today and now they estimate Thursday, we leave Friday at 7.30am! I'll try a few other local branches to see if they have them (post office lady thought that was unlikely). So what do we do if there are no forms on Thursday!

What are the implications of driving in Germany, Netherlands & France without an international license? Have got no idea what to do if we can't get the form - cancelling the holiday seems a little extreme!

Buster72 Fri 05-Apr-19 13:22:42

@mistgri
On the contrary, if renting a car in RSA with an old style license (paper) you must take a photographic ID. According to that gov website you need a IPD , my own experience is you do not.

Mistigri Wed 03-Apr-19 22:44:53

The same websites says you must have an IDP for USA and RSA

That's not what the UK gov website says though.

You only need an IDP in SA if you have an old style paper U.K. licence - and that is what the U.K. govt site says.

For the USA rules may differ between states. I have a number of US friends here in France and their right vary depending on the US state which issued the licence.

RedForShort Wed 03-Apr-19 21:44:21

😂

No one knows for sure? No shit Sherlock.

Don't think anyone else one the thread has notice no one knows what will happen to many different current arrangements and after Britain leaves the EU.

For the OP of this thread she's away on th 12th and seeing Britain MIGHT leave without a deal it'll mean she MIGHT need a IPD. (Because non-EU licences holders do.)

So she sensibly got one just in case. It could turn out that she doesn't need it. (As documentation for travel within EU states are part of the deal - that might or mightn't happen - this seems to be the part you're struggling to grasp. )

Buster72 Wed 03-Apr-19 17:41:34

@redforshort I'll give you a minute to rtt and catch up.
Everyone is up in arms over uk gov advice the IDP is necessary if we brexit without a deal.
The same website says you MIGHT need an IDP after 12 April if in Europe.
The same websites says you must have an IDP for USA and RSA. My own experience says you don't.
US car hire firms say they only want an IDP if your licence is printed in a different alphabet ie chinese or Cyrillic.
So who do we believe? No one knows for sure is the point I am getting at.

RedForShort Wed 03-Apr-19 17:27:47

You can drive without one currently so any advice for the current moment is correct.

Did the rental companies advise that if Britain leave the EU without a deal you won't need a IDP?

Buster72 Wed 03-Apr-19 17:11:26

@redforshort the flux capacitor was shot never buy a used car from a running a ironmongers
The idp treaties were ratified in 1968...before I was born.
My own experience and current advice from car rental companies says otherwise..

RedForShort Wed 03-Apr-19 17:07:17

*Buster72: "I have happily rented cars in france Spain USA south africa without a international drivers license, scaremongering..."
Do you own a Delorean you purchased from a Dr. Emmett L. Brown? If not it's a little unclear how your happy renting without a IDP is proof of scaremongering.

Blueowls Wed 03-Apr-19 16:56:06

You used to be able to get IDPs online from AA/RAC in the UK but you can't anymore, only from the Post Office.

DontCallMeCharlotte Wed 03-Apr-19 16:47:58

Why the sudden need post Brexit, or is this another one of those Chicken Licken scaremonger stories doing the rounds?

Nope. As you can probably now see, this one is real. In fact probably everything that was dismissed as being part of "Project Fear" is real. We'll have to wait and see won't we?

FishesaPlenty Wed 03-Apr-19 16:33:31

Just get it online from the AA www.theaa.ie/aa/motoring-advice/driving-in-europe/international-driving-permit.aspx# you can download the IDF there.

That's the Irish AA site.

Buster72 Wed 03-Apr-19 16:28:38

Advice from the car rental companies say no IDP required.....unless your licence printed in a different alphabet ie chinese Cyrillic etc.
So who to believe?
My own experience? A car hire company? The UK website which insists I might need one? or mumsnet?
Seems no-one can be definitive on this....

cardibach Wed 03-Apr-19 16:28:25

Renegotiating*

cardibach Wed 03-Apr-19 16:28:10

You will still be able to in S Africa and the USA. That's because we have a deal with them
But is our deal with them through the EU? Because if so, it will go too. So many people do t realise that it is t just stuff directly connected to the EU which will be a problem post-Brexit (and especially in case of no deal). Many of our relationships in the world were negotiated through the EU and will need renogotiating if we leave.

BlueJava Wed 03-Apr-19 16:13:07

Just get it online from the AA www.theaa.ie/aa/motoring-advice/driving-in-europe/international-driving-permit.aspx# you can download the IDF there.

twofingerstoEverything Wed 03-Apr-19 16:02:39

Well, Buster, anecdotes trump government advice anytime, don't they? hmm

DogInATent Wed 03-Apr-19 16:01:46

And as I pointed out that list insists that I need IDP for USA and south Africa. On recent trips I hired cars and that was not a requirement. So how reliable is the gov advice?

Not sure about SA, but in the US the requirement varies from state to state. HMG guidance does note that the requirement varies by circumstance even within those countries they identify as requiring an IDP.
www.usa.gov/visitors-driving

Buster72 Wed 03-Apr-19 15:34:40

Sorry the traffic law isn't a "might" it's a black or white affair.
And as I pointed out that list insists that I need IDP for USA and south Africa. On recent trips I hired cars and that was not a requirement. So how reliable is the gov advice?

Lifecraft Wed 03-Apr-19 14:14:01

You do need an IDP for EU countries if we leave with no deal. You MIGHT be asked to produce it, you MIGHT not.

My most sincere apologies if I misspelled licence.

That's ok, don't beat yourself up over it.

Buster72 Wed 03-Apr-19 12:52:34

@lifecraft FFS indeed. I have read the advice and noted that you MIGHT need an IDP.
The advice also states that you will need an IDP if renting a car in South Africa and the USA. My own experience in both countries was that a IDP was not required. Hence why should I believe it.
My most sincere apologies if I misspelled licence.

Mistigri Wed 03-Apr-19 12:40:58

Ah, should have RTFT lol.

Check your medical cover though!

Mistigri Wed 03-Apr-19 12:39:42

I think for peace of mind I'd look for a post office that has the forms.

It probably wouldn't matter if you didn't have one, and we may not have left anyway, but if you had an accident it could leave you without cover because you'd be driving without a valid license.

(You do have your green card? And health cover other than the EHIC?)

doIreallyneedto Wed 03-Apr-19 12:32:32

@Lifecraft - And it's LICENCE in the UK. Two Cs, no S.

Unless you're using the verb 'to license'....

Lifecraft Wed 03-Apr-19 12:28:55

I have happily rented cars in france Spain USA south africa without a international drivers license, scaremongering....

Ohh ffs. You will still be able to in S Africa and the USA. That's because we have a deal with them. And they are English speaking so a translation of an English licence isn't really an issue.

You didn't need one in the past for France and Spain, because we had a deal with the EU. But if we leave with no deal, we won't have a deal, because we'll have left without a deal, sans deal, zero deal, no deal in existence.

If you don't believe me, check the dictionary. Deal means an agreement. No is negative. So when you combine the words no with deal, it means you don't have a deal.

I'm sorry if this is too much for Leavers to grasp, but not surprised.

And it's LICENCE in the UK. Two Cs, no S.

twofingerstoEverything Wed 03-Apr-19 10:43:31

They haven't taxed or MOTd their fleet of knackered and dangerous old LHD Romanian cars in years.
Furious - you seem to know an awful lot about your neighbours hmm, but if you really think this is the case you could actually report them if the vehicles have been on the road in the UK for longer than 6 months.

dementedma Wed 03-Apr-19 10:22:24

Got mine here in Fife no problem at all. Post Office guy had to instruct staff what to do as they hadnt been asked for one before

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