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narisha99 Tue 02-Apr-19 15:39:20

We are going on holiday on Friday and won't be back until mid April - We are driving across Europe so potentially need an International Driving License if we leave the EU when we are away.

Tried my local post office last week, they had run out of forms and assured me they would have them by today. Tried today and now they estimate Thursday, we leave Friday at 7.30am! I'll try a few other local branches to see if they have them (post office lady thought that was unlikely). So what do we do if there are no forms on Thursday!

What are the implications of driving in Germany, Netherlands & France without an international license? Have got no idea what to do if we can't get the form - cancelling the holiday seems a little extreme!

Karwomannghia Tue 02-Apr-19 21:11:36

I got one but won’t actually need it as Brexit won’t be happening while I’m away. Wonder if I can get a refund?
At the car hire desk I did mention I had one and she said oh no it’s only for Asia and Africa (it’s not you need one for Spain post brexit). I got the feeling legislation will take a while to catch up and it also occurred to me how all these other countries are going to have to make so many changes to their systems as well because of this.

Karwomannghia Tue 02-Apr-19 21:14:18

Butteredghost the gov website informed me I needed one if travelling to Spain after 28th March. Other European countries don’t need one though. www.gov.uk/guidance/international-driving-permits-for-uk-drivers-from-28-march-2019#driving-abroad-in-countries-outside-the-eu-and-eea-from-28-march-2019

legolimb Tue 02-Apr-19 21:19:47

Glad you got sorted OP

What a palaver though. Another reason for me to hate all the Leave voters.

angry

Butteredghost Tue 02-Apr-19 21:29:56

Fair enough Karwomannghia, I guess each country can make their own rules. Seems an unusual decision given that anyone else from any other (including non EU) country can drive in there on their home licence! But up to them I suppose.

Lifecraft Tue 02-Apr-19 21:53:22

This thread is a complete misunderstanding of what an international driving permit is. It isn't a licence or permit in itself. It's simply an official translation of your normal licence in to a few different languages.

It is meant to help if you interact with police or car hire staff that don't speak English, but it has no legal standing.

It does have a legal standing in so much as any country can say to another country that their licence holders must have an IDP alongside their actual driving licence, in the same way any country can say UK licence holders must wear red socks whilst driving in their country. That's their choice. In due course, the UK govt will no doubt strike a deal with the EU to get over all this, but we won't have one the day after we leave with no deal.

Jamiefraserskilt Tue 02-Apr-19 22:07:26

These forms should be online. They are like hens teeth in some areas and it seems ludicrous that they are only in hardcopy from Post Offices.

Gilbert1A Wed 03-Apr-19 08:12:12

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Buster72 Wed 03-Apr-19 09:06:38

I have happily rented cars in france Spain USA south africa without a international drivers license, scaremongering....

Karwomannghia Wed 03-Apr-19 10:16:43

Buster72 it’s not scaremongering it’s advice from the government because of brexit.

dementedma Wed 03-Apr-19 10:22:24

Got mine here in Fife no problem at all. Post Office guy had to instruct staff what to do as they hadnt been asked for one before

twofingerstoEverything Wed 03-Apr-19 10:43:31

They haven't taxed or MOTd their fleet of knackered and dangerous old LHD Romanian cars in years.
Furious - you seem to know an awful lot about your neighbours hmm, but if you really think this is the case you could actually report them if the vehicles have been on the road in the UK for longer than 6 months.

Lifecraft Wed 03-Apr-19 12:28:55

I have happily rented cars in france Spain USA south africa without a international drivers license, scaremongering....

Ohh ffs. You will still be able to in S Africa and the USA. That's because we have a deal with them. And they are English speaking so a translation of an English licence isn't really an issue.

You didn't need one in the past for France and Spain, because we had a deal with the EU. But if we leave with no deal, we won't have a deal, because we'll have left without a deal, sans deal, zero deal, no deal in existence.

If you don't believe me, check the dictionary. Deal means an agreement. No is negative. So when you combine the words no with deal, it means you don't have a deal.

I'm sorry if this is too much for Leavers to grasp, but not surprised.

And it's LICENCE in the UK. Two Cs, no S.

doIreallyneedto Wed 03-Apr-19 12:32:32

@Lifecraft - And it's LICENCE in the UK. Two Cs, no S.

Unless you're using the verb 'to license'....

Mistigri Wed 03-Apr-19 12:39:42

I think for peace of mind I'd look for a post office that has the forms.

It probably wouldn't matter if you didn't have one, and we may not have left anyway, but if you had an accident it could leave you without cover because you'd be driving without a valid license.

(You do have your green card? And health cover other than the EHIC?)

Mistigri Wed 03-Apr-19 12:40:58

Ah, should have RTFT lol.

Check your medical cover though!

Buster72 Wed 03-Apr-19 12:52:34

@lifecraft FFS indeed. I have read the advice and noted that you MIGHT need an IDP.
The advice also states that you will need an IDP if renting a car in South Africa and the USA. My own experience in both countries was that a IDP was not required. Hence why should I believe it.
My most sincere apologies if I misspelled licence.

Lifecraft Wed 03-Apr-19 14:14:01

You do need an IDP for EU countries if we leave with no deal. You MIGHT be asked to produce it, you MIGHT not.

My most sincere apologies if I misspelled licence.

That's ok, don't beat yourself up over it.

Buster72 Wed 03-Apr-19 15:34:40

Sorry the traffic law isn't a "might" it's a black or white affair.
And as I pointed out that list insists that I need IDP for USA and south Africa. On recent trips I hired cars and that was not a requirement. So how reliable is the gov advice?

DogInATent Wed 03-Apr-19 16:01:46

And as I pointed out that list insists that I need IDP for USA and south Africa. On recent trips I hired cars and that was not a requirement. So how reliable is the gov advice?

Not sure about SA, but in the US the requirement varies from state to state. HMG guidance does note that the requirement varies by circumstance even within those countries they identify as requiring an IDP.
www.usa.gov/visitors-driving

twofingerstoEverything Wed 03-Apr-19 16:02:39

Well, Buster, anecdotes trump government advice anytime, don't they? hmm

BlueJava Wed 03-Apr-19 16:13:07

Just get it online from the AA www.theaa.ie/aa/motoring-advice/driving-in-europe/international-driving-permit.aspx# you can download the IDF there.

cardibach Wed 03-Apr-19 16:28:10

You will still be able to in S Africa and the USA. That's because we have a deal with them
But is our deal with them through the EU? Because if so, it will go too. So many people do t realise that it is t just stuff directly connected to the EU which will be a problem post-Brexit (and especially in case of no deal). Many of our relationships in the world were negotiated through the EU and will need renogotiating if we leave.

cardibach Wed 03-Apr-19 16:28:25

Renegotiating*

Buster72 Wed 03-Apr-19 16:28:38

Advice from the car rental companies say no IDP required.....unless your licence printed in a different alphabet ie chinese Cyrillic etc.
So who to believe?
My own experience? A car hire company? The UK website which insists I might need one? or mumsnet?
Seems no-one can be definitive on this....

FishesaPlenty Wed 03-Apr-19 16:33:31

Just get it online from the AA www.theaa.ie/aa/motoring-advice/driving-in-europe/international-driving-permit.aspx# you can download the IDF there.

That's the Irish AA site.

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