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narisha99 Tue 02-Apr-19 15:39:20

We are going on holiday on Friday and won't be back until mid April - We are driving across Europe so potentially need an International Driving License if we leave the EU when we are away.

Tried my local post office last week, they had run out of forms and assured me they would have them by today. Tried today and now they estimate Thursday, we leave Friday at 7.30am! I'll try a few other local branches to see if they have them (post office lady thought that was unlikely). So what do we do if there are no forms on Thursday!

What are the implications of driving in Germany, Netherlands & France without an international license? Have got no idea what to do if we can't get the form - cancelling the holiday seems a little extreme!

Lifecraft Tue 02-Apr-19 16:45:55

I don't understand; i've never needed an "international licence" when I've rented cars in Canada, the US, Kenya, Oman or Australia.

Let me explain. We've agreed deals with those countries, and many others, whereby they accept a UK licence for short period stays, usually under a year.

If we had no deal with those countries, you would need an international licence. If we leave the EU with no deal, we will have, no deal. The clue is in the words "no" & "deal".

doIreallyneedto Tue 02-Apr-19 17:14:39

@mum11970 - It will probably be fine. Don’t think everyone abroad with an EU license will suddenly be driving illegally, there is bound to be a change over period.

Of course people driving abroad with EU licences will be fine. However, once Brexit happens, a UK licence will no longer be an EU licence and will not be included in any international deals that recognise EU licences.

If there is a no deal brexit, UK licences will not be accepted in most countries so you will need an international driving licence. A change over period would require that minor little detail that your politicians are refusing to engage with: a deal.

FuriousCheekyFucker Tue 02-Apr-19 17:26:31

@Lifecraft
If we had no deal with those countries, you would need an international licence. If we leave the EU with no deal, we will have, no deal. The clue is in the words "no" & "deal".

Oh that'll be absolutely awful for my neighbours if its reciprocal.

They haven't taxed or MOTd their fleet of knackered and dangerous old LHD Romanian cars in years.

scaryteacher Tue 02-Apr-19 17:31:17

Having managed to hold on to my UK licence for the past 13 years, I finally changed it for a Belgian one last week. All the HM Forces personnel and their families here are being issued with International Driving Permits/licences, and a special addition to their passport to show they have right of residence here, plus their protocol ID cards.

RedForShort Tue 02-Apr-19 17:52:53

The OP isn't wrong as a holder of a British driving licence, she'll need an International Driving Permit to drive in Europe (Ireland is the only exception I think) if there's no deal. It's a well noted fact.

@narisha99 there a notice on the post office website about the storage of IDPs:

www.postoffice.co.uk/international-driving-permit#IDP-Checker

You're best course of action is visiting POs until you find one that has them in stock.

CherryPavlova Tue 02-Apr-19 17:58:26

I have mine as we are driving in France in April. There are two different licenses and which you need is dependent on where you are driving.

The post office woman told us Italy is planning to confiscate cars of people without an international permit until such time as the driver passes a theory test in Italy, post Brexit. Other countries are liable to impose a fixed penalty on the spot.

We’ve also been advised to ensure we have a green card. Talk about back to the 1950s!

doIreallyneedto Tue 02-Apr-19 18:02:41

@CherryPavlova - The post office woman told us Italy is planning to confiscate cars of people without an international permit until such time as the driver passes a theory test in Italy, post Brexit.

You've got to love the Italians😁

Can't see that happening though.

MidLifeCrisis2017 Tue 02-Apr-19 18:04:46

@Donnasaurus can I pick your brains? I'm already in France, could I post my driving licence and photo to my family in the UK so they could get an international one, or do I have to go in person?

pigsDOfly Tue 02-Apr-19 18:05:08

My car insurance company wrote to me a few weeks ago about this and told me that they can arrange this for me. Unless I've misunderstood as I did just skim read it very quickly.

Maybe have a word with your insurance company OP.

doIreallyneedto Tue 02-Apr-19 19:05:11

@pigsDOfly - My car insurance company wrote to me a few weeks ago about this and told me that they can arrange this for me. Unless I've misunderstood as I did just skim read it very quickly.

I would say they wrote to you about a green card for insurance, not driving licence.

RedForShort Tue 02-Apr-19 19:08:30

Speaking of insurance the European Health Insurance Card may not be valid for British Citizens after the 12th either. Check your travel insurance has health cover too.

Donnasaurus Tue 02-Apr-19 19:14:33

Midlife, I actually didn't know so I've just had to ask my WhatsApp group and evidently yes you can you just need to sign it when you have it

narisha99 Tue 02-Apr-19 19:15:55

Phew all sorted, after travelling around 5! post offices DH managed to get the permits !

Green card organised as well - so hopefully we are set for brexit!

Thanks everyone

pigsDOfly Tue 02-Apr-19 19:16:35

doIreallyneedto. Oops yes, I've just looked at it, you're right, green card. I didn't really read it at the time because I'm very unlikely to drive abroad.

I know we'll need an international licence if we leave without a deal and want to drive in Europe, somehow my head translated it into that.

Sorry about my pointless post. OP.

Janek Tue 02-Apr-19 19:20:49

@MidLifeCrisis2017 Don't you need your driving licence with you at all times to drive in France? So if you are stopped they expect you to show it right away. That has always been my understanding.

Iflyaway Tue 02-Apr-19 19:32:32

@CherryPavlova - The post office woman told us Italy is planning to confiscate cars of people without an international permit until such time as the driver passes a theory test in Italy, post Brexit. You've got to love the Italians😁 Can't see that happening though.

Can't see that happening though.

Fact is, you don't KNOW what is happening when UK is no longer in the EU.

You'll be in the queue with the rest of the world outside it.
That's the reality of Brexit.

MidLifeCrisis2017 Tue 02-Apr-19 19:32:46

@Donnasaurus thanks!

@Janek yes, theoretically, but I rarely drive and I'm so remote I don't generally see another car, let alone a gendarme. Surprisingly the post is really good, letters have only been taking two days to get here or back. Got a friend coming over so they can bring it if it's quick.

What a mess.

Janek Tue 02-Apr-19 19:38:00

Mess. Yes that's definitely the word!

doIreallyneedto Tue 02-Apr-19 19:53:06

@Iflyaway - Fact is, you don't KNOW what is happening when UK is no longer in the EU. You'll be in the queue with the rest of the world outside it.

Nope. I'll be in the queue with all the other EU nationals. I'm Irish.

Babynut1 Tue 02-Apr-19 20:41:42

You’ll probably need a green card for insurance. Some companies have been really on the ball and are issuing them already.
I prob wouldn’t travel without a permit for your licence. Phone around each post office every day x

endofthelinefinally Tue 02-Apr-19 20:43:39

Martyn Lewis is discussing this now on ITV.
Post office should have all the information.

Blueowls Tue 02-Apr-19 21:01:15

I thought you had to go to the Post Office in person? hmm

Blueowls Tue 02-Apr-19 21:05:01

Oh no, ignore me, says on PO website someone can do it on your behalf with correct supporting documents.

SofiaAmes Tue 02-Apr-19 21:06:47

I live in the USA and have driven all over Europe for 35+ years without an International Driving License, but this year for the very first time when I booked the rental car in Italy, the rental documents stated that I must have an International Driving License, so I duly got one. Not quite sure why things have changed...Brexit shouldn't impact the need for a Dual American/Italian Citizen to need an International Driving License. But you never know with the Italians.

Butteredghost Tue 02-Apr-19 21:09:42

This thread is a complete misunderstanding of what an international driving permit is. It isn't a licence or permit in itself. It's simply an official translation of your normal licence in to a few different languages.

It is meant to help if you interact with police or car hire staff that don't speak English, but it has no legal standing.

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