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To invite all Mumsnetters to the Brexit Rally in Parliament Square tomorrow afternoon/evening?

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SunnyInGrimsby Thu 28-Mar-19 22:21:36

OK, it's doubtful Brexit is going to happen any time soon but definitely worth coming along and standing up for what we voted for.

Very little coverage in the media - unfortunately no full page spreads in the Standard for us....

It will be going on until early evening so still worth turning up if you can't get the day off work. Lots of great speakers including Julia Hartley Brewer, Claire Fox, Kate Hoey et al.

TheYoungOffendersMum Thu 28-Mar-19 22:22:55

Is this pro brexit or anti?

DoomOnTheBroom Thu 28-Mar-19 22:24:52

It's pro-Brexit and the culmination of the Leave Means Leave march.

Personally, I'd rather shit in my hands and clap.

SunnyInGrimsby Thu 28-Mar-19 22:25:07

Pro Brexit! The anti Brexit one was last Saturday.

BrexitBingoGenerator Thu 28-Mar-19 22:25:42

It’s Pro. I believe the finale is going to be the arrival of the great band of brexit marchers, led by Nigel Farage.

DameFanny Thu 28-Mar-19 22:27:25

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

No.

JakeBallardswife Thu 28-Mar-19 22:27:33

Pro Brexit, I’d rather watch paint dry...

BrexitBingoGenerator Thu 28-Mar-19 22:27:51

sunny

I did t vote leave so won’t be there. However, are you sure this will be safe? I’d be a bit worried in case it kicks off- you get pretty unsavoury types hanging around these sorts of events and with tensions already running high, I’d be wary.

JakeBallardswife Thu 28-Mar-19 22:27:55

It’s a big fat NO.

campion Thu 28-Mar-19 22:28:01

Sounds very pro to me with those speakers.

'We' may have been 'you' but it wasn't 'me'. Nor 16 million others.

Pearpickinpenguin Thu 28-Mar-19 22:28:39

Christ have you gone yet?

How many more months of this moronic bollocks have we all to deal with?

SunnyInGrimsby Thu 28-Mar-19 22:30:54

I'm not worried at all about safety as there are always loads of police about and previous marches have been good humoured.

Bananasarenottheonlyfruit Thu 28-Mar-19 22:31:01

Nope.

TooManyPaws Thu 28-Mar-19 22:32:08

Nope. My country voted 2 to 1 to Remain.

I presume this is the English Parliament Square? Haven't been to a rally in ours since the devolution vote and Tony Blair insisted on shaking my hand. National media opposite us wet themselves laughing at me wiping my hand afterwards.

RebeccaCloud9 Thu 28-Mar-19 22:32:49

What exactly did you vote for? Do any of you actually know?

YouTheCat Thu 28-Mar-19 22:32:49

Hahahahaha

Greensleeves Thu 28-Mar-19 22:34:44

Kate Hoey? Jesus wept

ItsInTheSpoon Thu 28-Mar-19 22:39:09

What a lot of rude comments...
Why the Remain voters see themselves as superior is still a mystery to me. Each and every voter is just as valuable a person as any other, regardless of vote, but Leave voters have been insulted non-stop since the result of the referendum.
I wish I could attend to support the Rally as a peaceful demonstration of feelings.
As with any such demonstration, let us hope idiots do not ruin it.

FenellaMaxwell Thu 28-Mar-19 22:40:20

Will you be marching off the edge of a cliff like lemmings? It makes for an excellent Brexit analogy.

Dotty1970 Thu 28-Mar-19 22:44:56

Sorry, I'm stabbing myself in the eyeballs with pencils that night

BMW6 Thu 28-Mar-19 23:02:22

You are on a hiding to nothing OP. There will be a very low turnout because
1. it is in London and London is majority Remain
2. Leavers outside London can't rush off to London at the drop of hat.

It would be much more effective if people were asked to gather somewhere local - their town hall, perhaps.

London is not representative of the rest of the UK. That is the entire problem.

TheWomanin12B Thu 28-Mar-19 23:07:11

I would be extremely worried about it all kicking off tomorrow. The yellow vests are coming.

Also, you should be celebrating that it hasn't happened. Your failure to grasp that is very sad.

user1471498837 Thu 28-Mar-19 23:13:35

No thanks, isn't this funded by Tommy Robinson?

CaptainButtock Thu 28-Mar-19 23:14:11

Sure, I’ll be there... Just as soon as he’ll freezes over.

Fucking hell 🙁

CaptainButtock Thu 28-Mar-19 23:14:30

Hell obv

Hotterthanahotthing Thu 28-Mar-19 23:15:13

Not very handy unless you're a Londoner.

KennDodd Thu 28-Mar-19 23:15:47

Please stay safe. A lot of really unsavoury violent types are rampant Leavers, they will be very angry tomorrow.

Hillfarmer Thu 28-Mar-19 23:16:37

ItsInTheSpoon It’s really hard not to be rude about people who voted to rip away my European rights, our economic health and my children’s future freedoms as citizens of a United Kingdom in the EU.

I don’t want us to be a Singapore-style economy servicing global dodgy dealers, led by far right free marketeers hoping to win the race for the bottom. I like being part of a European trading bloc and we’ll soon see what we actually got, in exchange for what we paid into EU.

I don’t mind that we pooled our sovereignty with 27 friendly countries. We didn’t lose our sovereignty, we deployed it constructively and profitably for our country, whilst preserving peace between us and encouraging liberal democracies in lots of other countries. Look at Latvia, Lithuania and Latvia...as well as Poland, east Germany, Romania and Bulgaria. These are not places that drain our economy. I’m proud of the part our country and the EU has played in transforming those countries and for people to be able to fulfill their potential in a climate of freedom and increased opportunity.

Oh and all those awfulregulations? They’ve brought us environmental standards, cleaner air, cleaner beaches, better animal welfare standards, better employment laws, food labelling and confidence that all EU stuff we import has the same, decent standards for animals, for hygiene and for the environment.

In all this we have had an active, democratic role...helping write the rules through the Parliament, the Commission and the Council of ministers.

So yeah, I’m feeling pretty enraged that we have thrown it all away, with the promise of....what? An undeliverable and dishonest mess.

Other than that, I have no problem with it.

FilthyforFirth Thu 28-Mar-19 23:16:52

Literally can't think of anything I want to do less. Still have fun with Nigel and Tommy.

Burpsandfustles Thu 28-Mar-19 23:25:03

Did anyone clock the look Jenny Chapman just gave leave voter on QT.

Mixture of utter disdain and also dash of despair because he said he was a life long labour voter who can't vote labour.

I'm astonished after the battering and cristism labour has come in for any labour politician would have the temerity to look at a life long labour supporter like that.

KennDodd Thu 28-Mar-19 23:26:41

I hope Steve Bray is ok tomorrow. He must be a real target and it certainly doesn't help the comments Mark Francois has been making about him.

woman19 Thu 28-Mar-19 23:29:14

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Burpsandfustles Thu 28-Mar-19 23:29:40

I agree with bmw6.

I think all leave marches Etc should hold fire.
It's too soon. Wait and see what happens in next few days.

Many people who voted won't have finances to get to London to march esp not on a Friday

AutumnCrow Thu 28-Mar-19 23:32:01

Kate Hoey. Just those three syllables make me think of futility of purpose and cats bums.

Burpsandfustles Thu 28-Mar-19 23:33:41

Kendodd

See post below yours, hill farmer.

People feeling... pretty enraged isn't cosigned too one side or another.

LonelyTiredandLow Thu 28-Mar-19 23:34:11

Just a word of caution - the police have warned everyone who is pro-EU to stay away from the march and apparently local offices are even not opening due to safety concerns.

Posting this on a parent forum is quite reckless OP. Especially on a Friday night (drinking) when we know how leavers will be feeling.

Please keep kids safe and away from Parliament tomorrow.

ChardonnaysPrettySister Thu 28-Mar-19 23:35:30

Now that will be one rally where the numbers will be easy to establish.

TheWomanin12B Thu 28-Mar-19 23:38:18

SODEM are staying away tomorrow.

LonelyTiredandLow Thu 28-Mar-19 23:41:57

@TheWoman is that meant to make people feel safer?
Weren't they the ones who messed up the road blocks hoping to cause maximum public inconvenience and said they would turn up to each other and then didn't? How can you possibly rely on their 'word?'

I think most people realise they aren't the only idiots in the circus by now.

wherearemychickens Thu 28-Mar-19 23:42:09

I would be really worried about things kicking off nastily. I'm glad Sodem aren't going to be around - worrying for the MPs who have to be though.

KennDodd Thu 28-Mar-19 23:43:17

Does that mean Steve Bray won't be around? I do think he has every right to be there and should be there tomorrow but I just don't think it'll be safe for him.

Dothehappydance Thu 28-Mar-19 23:44:19

Well seeing that a Sunday could only draw 150 people on the March to Leave locally (very pro-leave) I am not expecting huge crowds in London on a Friday.

NotSureThisIsWhatIWant Thu 28-Mar-19 23:46:00

I would say OP, ignore everyone and go to your March so you can see with your own eyes what sad mob you are handing your country to with your vote. Tommy Robins, Nigel Farages, our very own versions of Trump. That’s what you voted for.

NewAndImprovedNorks Thu 28-Mar-19 23:46:15

No thank you <polite>

Calloway Thu 28-Mar-19 23:47:01

No thanks. I'll be otherwise engaged rearranging my sock drawer and removing hair from the plugholes.

SunnyInGrimsby Thu 28-Mar-19 23:47:15

@lonelyandtired - I haven't suggested anyone bring their children to the March. This forum is a broad church with many threads about other subjects as well as parenting.

People have the right to protest peacefully. There are hordes of police in Parliament Square all the time and tomorrow there will vast numbers. They are also very skilled at managing protests and keeping different factions apart.

As for the poster upthread who accused Leave voters of being responsible for Jo Cox's murder, that is a really shameful thing to say. When you accuse those of us with moderate views who number over half the country of extremism you really are creating a climate where real extremism will flourish.

Surely it is possible for us to have different views and at least remain civil.

woman19 Thu 28-Mar-19 23:53:11

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Icantreachthepretzels Thu 28-Mar-19 23:53:32

Another no thank you. I did go to London last weekend. Me and a million other people. Not one arrest and the police presence was not a 'horde' and such police as there were were relaxed and friendly. I can't help but wonder how tomorrow will compare - both numbers and atmosphere wise.

HermioneKipper Thu 28-Mar-19 23:55:53

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Calloway Thu 28-Mar-19 23:55:59

How many people are still on that Leave 'march'?

Smelborp Thu 28-Mar-19 23:56:25

I’ll pass thanks.

Calloway Thu 28-Mar-19 23:56:47

Still can't believe they had to pay fifty quid for the privilege of taking part!

Burpsandfustles Fri 29-Mar-19 00:00:06

Far right and far left are both awful.

Unfortunately where one group turns up the opposing group does deliberately to fight.

Accusing all leavers of being on same page as Tommy is like lumping every labour voter as being socialist anti Semite violent nuttter.

It's facile, play ground stuff.

LonelyTiredandLow Fri 29-Mar-19 00:00:07

Surely it is possible for us to have different views and at least remain civil.
I somehow doubt that will be the case tomorrow, although it was last weekend. If you get anywhere near the 100k mark I'd expect multiple arrests and worse.

TheWomanin12B Fri 29-Mar-19 00:00:45

@lonelytiredandlow SODEM are staying away tomorrow because they have been warned by the Police they are likely to be attacked. They aren't the yellow vest Tommy Robinson thugs doing the attacking. SODEM are peaceful.

Kenn, I'm not sure if that means Steve won't be there too. I hope not for his safety, but agree he shouldn't have to stay away, but that's the trouble with the sort of people the government are pandering to.

LonelyTiredandLow Fri 29-Mar-19 00:01:59

Burps you aren't factoring in the significance of the date tomorrow.
Many Leavers have had it drummed into them that this is a betrayal. The language used by the organisers is inciting hostility and therefore it will likely be dangerous.

LonelyTiredandLow Fri 29-Mar-19 00:04:44

Well if your own side are attacking/threatening your own side by your own admittance...hmm
But sure, come along MN'ers! grin

PerpendicularVincent Fri 29-Mar-19 00:05:19

I won't be there, I think Brexit is a dreadful thing sad

GeordieGenes Fri 29-Mar-19 00:07:23

@woman19

I'm a remainer, but that is an appalling thing to say. Emotional blackmail at its worst.

woman19 Fri 29-Mar-19 00:16:19

Truth hurts.

RevokeRemainRebuild Fri 29-Mar-19 00:17:40

Julia Hartley Brewer, Claire Fox, Kate Hoey et al

Hmmm really tempting grin

Anyway, happy Brexit Day, OP. Oh wait ...

DrReed Fri 29-Mar-19 00:17:45

There are hordes of police in Parliament Square all the time

No there really aren’t. Though I’m sure there will be tomorrow. I know all pubs in Westminster have been sent letters by the police warning them to have extra security measures in place. I’ll be staying well away thanks.

Calloway Fri 29-Mar-19 00:20:54

Will that Wurzel Gummidger Mr Wetherspoons be there?

He's so hot.

BigChocFrenzy Fri 29-Mar-19 00:31:01

I stay away from marches that have police warnings to those of different views

Lalliella Fri 29-Mar-19 00:31:21

@Hillfarmer I love you!

ClariceCliffe Fri 29-Mar-19 00:31:53

Woman19
Extremely distasteful.

PortiaCastis Fri 29-Mar-19 00:36:44

No thanks I don't want sodding brexit so I'll pass and anyway nige gives me the rage and that tuss yaxley-lennon yapping off would get right up my nose so I'll stay at home ta, anyway will probably end in a punch up
That wetherspoons bloke had the cheek to send me his bilge so I sent it back to the nearest branch

HaroldsSoCalledBluetits Fri 29-Mar-19 00:59:47

I can't come as I will be enacting my own version of brexit by stabbing my foot with a garden fork and giving foreigners the stink eye.

EluphNaugeMeop Fri 29-Mar-19 04:11:57

It is very difficult for most people to get to London to protest. People have jobs, family commitments, animals that can't be left, daily routines and obligations. In any given protest, for every person who marches there are many more who wish they were there.

So clearly the number of brexit supporters protesting in London today will not be all the brexit supporters there are. Given the 48:52 ratio and the fact that the pro-EU march last weekend had a million marchers, there should be circa 1.08million pro-brexit demonstrators now.

Unless of course the vast majority of brexit voters have realised they were wrong, and the only people protesting are the wiley rich with vested interests, the ardent anti cooperation independence-at-any-cost gang, the racists and the violence-as-a-hobby crew. Then there will only be a much smaller crowd obviously.

All the factors why there are plenty of pro-brexiters who just physically can't be there will have applied equally to the pro-EU side last weekend. Loads of people were carrying placards that listed the names of people who wanted to be there but couldn't.

MaudBaileysGreenTurban Fri 29-Mar-19 07:14:41

No thanks. If any march is going to kick off it will be this one. There have been posts on twitter from people like Suzanne Evans encouraging attendees to come along to demonstrate their 'rage' at their 'betrayal', and Yaxley- Lennon's thugs will be out in force.

The march on Saturday didn't need 'hordes' of police to keep factions apart (I saw a group of about 40 pro-brexit supporters yelling, and they were politely ignored by the million marchers). And the fact that SODEM have been expressly told to stay away says it all about the atmosphere that the police are expecting this afternoon.

By all means head over there though, OP, and see what a delightful bunch of violent thugs you're associating yourself with.

BrexitBingoGenerator Fri 29-Mar-19 07:27:04

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RMogs Fri 29-Mar-19 07:29:48

Even if I had voted leave, getting to London on a Friday would be a PITA and with the police warnings, no way would I want to be involved.

Burpsandfustles Fri 29-Mar-19 07:30:19

Eluph.

I work and have small children, I'm more than happy too march if Brexit doesn't go through.

I'm not marching today and I'm not happy at all, that the far right have wheedled their way into Brexit at all.
And if I was to ever bear a placard aloft one side would say something Brexit related.
The other would be telling Tommy Robinson to f off.

givemesteel Fri 29-Mar-19 07:42:04

There wasn't 1m remain protesters last weekend. A widely inaccurate estimate which has since been corrected to 300-400k protesters.

If you want to see the disrespectful, arrogant, ovine, stupid side of the Remain vote, just click on any Brexit thread on Mumsnet... It just gets swamped by the same echo chamber every time so there's really no point.

OP I don't think the rally will be well attended, for lots of reasons, it's in London, the Remain capital of the UK, Leave voters are older so less willing/able to stand around in the cold and less tech savvy so may not be aware of the demonstration are some reasons.

Depending on what happens I think a lot of Leave voters are keeping their powder dry to see what happens in the coming weeks.

Remain voters, I wouldn't complacently think that because they're not making a lot of noise at the moment that they've conveniently changed their mind.

HoneysuckIejasmine Fri 29-Mar-19 07:43:31

Do you have a source for that estimate, givemesteel?

Burpsandfustles Fri 29-Mar-19 07:49:08

I don't care how many marchers went.
5 million could have gone.
16 million voted stay.
It was a really great march and thankfully it didn't seem infiltrated by momentum Etc. I did worry when I saw the socialist fist flag unfurling.

Give me steel is right that leave voters are still out here and waiting to see what happens.

Don't think we have gone away

Daisychainsandglitter Fri 29-Mar-19 07:49:13

No thanks!

TeddyIsaHe Fri 29-Mar-19 07:50:17

And people wonder why they think leavers are thick! The M25 “ring of steel” 😂

I wouldn’t go to this protest if my life depended on it. If there’s a sure fire way of violence occurring, it’s getting leave voters together on a Friday night the day we were meant to be leaving the EU.

givemesteel Fri 29-Mar-19 07:51:35

Yes honey from an independent fact checking charity:

fullfact.org/europe/peoples-vote-march-count/

Lockheart Fri 29-Mar-19 07:54:26

@givemesteel "less able to stand in the cold"??

It's going to be 15 degrees in London today, it's not arctic Siberia.

HoneysuckIejasmine Fri 29-Mar-19 08:03:12

Thanks, givemesteel

YouTheCat Fri 29-Mar-19 08:04:23

Let's just say there were half a million, as a conservative estimate, at the march last week. There were no arrests and there was no violence.

Let's wait and see how many turn up to this march and what the police presence is like before we compare.

I think it will be very revealing.

LonelyTiredandLow Fri 29-Mar-19 08:05:19

Best people to ask about numbers as they had to be on the ground are the police who previously estimated between 1.5-2mil but had to retract it as it was seen as political. FOI request will be interesting but will obviously come too late to be of much use other than to put it into the History books.

Anyone who was there or who saw the helicopter footage can see it was way more than 400k.

Leavers are so wilfully ignorant!

Alsohuman Fri 29-Mar-19 08:05:58

Not bloody likely.

MaudBaileysGreenTurban Fri 29-Mar-19 08:07:54

'less able to stand around in the cold' lolololololol <<wipes tears of laughter from eyes>>

Fuck me I've heard all the excuses now.

Looking forward to our glorious brave new Brexit Britain then, led by people who are apparently too old and too infirm to go outside in spring weather, and can't use the internet grin grin grin

BelleSausage Fri 29-Mar-19 08:10:12

Haha haha haha

Sorry, sorry.

What is it that you’re marching for again?

Thanks for fucking up the country for years to come. It wasn’t worth it. Let’s see how you feel when it all turns to ash in your mouth. Just a shame you had to drag us all down with you.

Windowsareforcheaters Fri 29-Mar-19 08:10:26

As with any such demonstration, let us hope idiots do not ruin it

Are you calling leaver voters idiots? You can't do that it's rude. And they aren't all idiots.

iano Fri 29-Mar-19 08:12:13

@givemesteel what's the source for your numbers please?

looking at the pictures of the protest last week it's pretty obvious that there were more than 400,000 people there.

Thanks for asking OP. I'll be giving it a miss.

I hope you are safe tonight and it ends up being a peaceful demonstration.

HazardGhost Fri 29-Mar-19 08:12:39

Why OP whhhhy?

Current estimate is that 55% of people now want remain, the pool of moderate leavers is now shrinking which means the far right element of leave has increased further.

I was in one of the areas that had riots in 2011. The only minor positive was that so many ppl were identified thanks to cctv that we had unpaid work litter-picking everywhere for 2+ yrs after.

But seriously it was out of control, people died www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-14471405 .

It was devastating across the county.

iano Fri 29-Mar-19 08:15:34

@givemesteel sorry- bad reception I see you have already answered.
I think they shouldhavegonetospecsavers grin

NoSixPlease Fri 29-Mar-19 08:16:07

I thank you for your very kind invite, but on this occasion I shall have to decline. I have a much more enjoyable day planned. It includes a rectal examination followed by wiping my arse with stinging nettles.

BelleSausage Fri 29-Mar-19 08:16:54

The U.K. is already majority Remain and will only get more Remain as time goes on and the shit hits the fan.

But hard line Brexiteers don’t care because they are ideologically driven. They could not give a shit about the lives they will ruin (that if the EU citizens in the U.K. and the U.K. citizens in Europe). They have (wrongly) categorised Remain voters as elites and want to give everyone a kicking. And don’t especially care what damage is done to the economy in the process.

Laughable really with a bunch of billionaire, tax dodging bankers as their leaders.

TaMereAPoilDevantPrisu Fri 29-Mar-19 08:17:48

It'll be small because Leavers can't get there from outside London? Fucksake, make a bit of an effort. I know dozens of people who travelled hundreds of miles from mainland Europe for the Remain march.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer Fri 29-Mar-19 08:18:14

I hope its a peaceful demonstration

And obviously unless 17.4 people rock up they have all changed their mind and want to remain

(I don't actually believe that but ive heard it a lot recently...but the other way around)

TheWomanin12B Fri 29-Mar-19 08:18:59

That ring of steel protest should be well underway by now. Wonder how it is going?

TaMereAPoilDevantPrisu Fri 29-Mar-19 08:19:34

arf @ NoSixPlease

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer Fri 29-Mar-19 08:21:05

t'll be small because Leavers can't get there from outside London

My dad said its too far and too much money

He is minted and we leave an hour and a half away by train

He will go on a march if there is a local one....if someone could arrange one that would be awesome as i think he would really enjoy it. He does have a sore knee so it will be slow

And i think people would enjoy meeting him on a march. He is really lovely

IvanaPee Fri 29-Mar-19 08:21:36

Why the Remain voters see themselves as superior is still a mystery to me.

From outside of this (thank fuck) I see very clear differences of intellect, class, dignity, and common sense between Leavers and Remainers.

Let’s just say I wouldn’t be attending a march today if I was in London.

It’s the only one too, that I won’t be surprised to see violence and loutish behaviour at.

LuckyMarmiteLover Fri 29-Mar-19 08:23:58

FFS no way Tegan

MaudBaileysGreenTurban Fri 29-Mar-19 08:25:43

That ring of steel protest should be well underway by now. Wonder how it is going?

Hmmm. Funnily enough I've not heard anything. Must be that Remainer media blocking the Brave Brexiteers from having their voices heard again, eh?

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