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bert3400 Tue 26-Mar-19 23:25:22

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/26/the-16m-new-york-penthouse-fit-for-a-uk-civil-servant.

So our schools & NHS are struggling...but Jeremy Cunt can authorise this

cantonwanton Fri 29-Mar-19 10:00:08

I agree with you moon2. I think people fail to understand that the world is globalised these days. They need to get out and see the world. Far too many people live their whole lives in their small post industrial town and don't realise for the UK to continue with the level of wealth we're at or improve we need to look outside.

moon2 Fri 29-Mar-19 08:47:36

Too early in the morning for all these typos

moon2 Fri 29-Mar-19 08:46:29

If you look at the cost of buildings and lodgings near Westminster in the Americans Ambassadors mansion with huge grounds in Regents Park it is most probably a drop in the ocean in comparison. One might even ask the same question, why does he and his family need a house with so many rooms? Having been there I would say anything elsejust won’t cut the mustard and one would be the laughing stock of the world attempting to hold events and parties in anything else. I think people need to work up and realise the Middle East, Far East and China capitals are light years ahead and if you’re in any doubt a tour of the world would soon enlighten. I’m not saying that it’s nice to hear of such spending but Joe public as we are it is what it is.
To add these rooms are for family, staff, aides and space for entertaining visitors and parties and important meetings. The days are filled with work and schmoozing.

Nurseornot Thu 28-Mar-19 20:42:44

US healthcare companies and lobbyists are vultures. I'm sure they have a spare office building or two to host politicians in while they dish out bribes and draw up contracts in their favour, because we all know what's really going to happen. 🤪

Bunnyfuller Thu 28-Mar-19 20:18:40

Whitehall or Westminster for meetings. We are falling the fuck over ourselves with impressive locations. They’ve always been there.

This is a jolly flat.

Aria999 Thu 28-Mar-19 19:57:22

There are seven rooms because a minister doesn’t just hop on the plane with their carry-on backpack by themselves. Not right now maybe but the way things are going they might need to start...

BunsyGirl Thu 28-Mar-19 19:09:07

The lease of the current US embassy in London was reported to have cost £500 million! You might want to have a walk around Mayfair and surrounding areas of London and have a peak at the foreign embassies. £12 million is peanuts compared to the value of some of them!

cantonwanton Thu 28-Mar-19 08:15:25

Perhaps we ought to look at previous Governments who have sold off many foreign properties for a quick buck to fill the deficit and proclaim economic success..?

Unfinishedkitchen Thu 28-Mar-19 08:04:41

Well they somewhere to snooze and sign contracts with American private healthcare companies post Brexit.

MuseumofInnocence Thu 28-Mar-19 08:00:31

I know a little about the world of Diplomacy, and I'm aware that the UK has a whole range of properties around the world to entertain guests an dignitaries. I'm afraid it's part of how the world works. If you meet a UK ambassador anywhere, they're likely to have somewhere nice to live. There is a need to entertain people in the evening. New York is an expensive city, and while I haven't seen the business case, it doesn't seem entirely illogical

maddening Thu 28-Mar-19 07:41:13

I am sure that renting out big corporate spaces on an event by event basis would cost less.

SoloD Thu 28-Mar-19 07:37:06

That's before you look at the stories about HMOs and people bankrupted by falling ill.

US healthcare is so expensive that the average birth in the US costs more than giving birth in the Lindo wing.
www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2018/04/23/a-typical-american-birth-costs-as-much-as-delivering-a-royal-baby

We really don't want to go down the US healthcare route.

SoloD Thu 28-Mar-19 07:34:13

@Evilspiritgin

The reason the US healthcare is used as an example so often is that it is very very expensive (US pays around 17% of it's GDP in healthcare costs, compared to UK 9% or France 11%) while by many measures (life expectant, infant mortality etc) they receive worse healthcare.

Worse the money motivation for healthcare professionals suggests that patients are put at risk, just look at the opioid epidemic in the US, where pharmaceutical companies lobbied the Food and Drug Administration to allow their highly addictive powerful morphine based pain killers.
www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(18)30167-6/fulltext

Yabbers Wed 27-Mar-19 21:28:17

Can't believe people are sticking up for Jez
It is possible to see the sense in making a business decision which saves money in the long term without “sticking up for” the person who happened to be the one overseeing that particular decision.

samsamsamsamsamsam Wed 27-Mar-19 13:00:52

I think it's fine. More economical than renting. Will be used for multiple purposes.

just think of it as an asset. It will maintain but more likely increase its value.

thedisorganisedmum Wed 27-Mar-19 12:57:35

They are in it for themselves, they do not represent us, no matter how many times you want to kid yourselves.

you do realise that it has nothing to do with one political party, not sure you think the Cons are worst there.

CatWithKittens Wed 27-Mar-19 12:56:45

Is Mumsnet really getting to state of so much of the rest of social media that people are unable to debate without personal abuse, obscenity and accusations of bad faith? This thread, like so many others where politics, faith or the Royal Family is mentioned, is short on fact or reasoned argument but full of a type of abuse which denies tolerance and would probably deny free speech itself given half a chance.

Clavinova Wed 27-Mar-19 12:56:38

Key headline figures from UK trade and investment in 2018

•£114bn – The US remained the UK's top single export destination, with exports increasing to £114bn in the year to 2018 Q3.

Dec 2018 Report - Foreign investment in UK

The US was the UK’s largest investor, according to the ONS statistics - with the amount of investment coming from the US increasing by 19.5% to £351bn.

RomanyQueen1 Wed 27-Mar-19 12:36:47

Are people really surprised, I'm sure people live on a different planet.
It's what governments do, especially the Cons.
They are in it for themselves, they do not represent us, no matter how many times you want to kid yourselves.

ShowMeTheKittens Wed 27-Mar-19 12:36:39

Can't believe people are sticking up for Jez Cunt. It's like they want to cut their own throats. He's a bstaad.
There are plenty of spaces that can be rented. It's for his private and no private fuckery.
Do you not know what politicians get up to?
It's enough in the news.

GCAcademic Wed 27-Mar-19 12:35:45

No worries grin

Billben Wed 27-Mar-19 12:31:53

GCAcademic

Oh gosh, yes it was 😀 Just re-read your post. Apologies 👍

StormTreader Wed 27-Mar-19 12:21:14

"Annual budget NHS 127.7 billion
So the cost is about 1 ten billionth of a percent of the NHS budget for 1 year. Not really going to make a difference. Numerical illiteracy is a real problem."

How many nurses salaries would it pay for for 5 or 10 years? How much medicine? The real issue is the attitude of "when I'm already in so much debt, buying booze and a takeaway every night won't make any difference" when in fact the ONLY way to address financial shortfalls is to look at where any savings at all can be made.

Do you think this is the only time the government has spaffed this kind of money on themselves? Would all those bits and pieces add up to a large chunk of money that could be used where its really needed, do you think?

GCAcademic Wed 27-Mar-19 12:16:10

Billben - er, that was my point?

Billben Wed 27-Mar-19 12:00:17

It was by having an empire, not by schmoozing people and getting on our knees in front of US medical companies and their industrial farming lobby. Neither are anything to be proud of.

How did we get that empire? By colonising everything and exploiting it. Neither are anything to be proud of.

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