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To move out of London to Northern Ireland?

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InternetArgument Sat 23-Mar-19 18:37:28

I realised the other day that I have been trying not to think about all the reasons I’m anxious about staying in london. I have one 2 year old and another on the way.

I’ve had enough of the stress of living here. I have a large house, very small mortgage and it is lovely in one of the nicest areas in the locality.

Im sick of the crime, stress and pollution. DH and I both have ties to Ireland and we have been to the north before and loved it - city, town and country.

AIBU to want to cash out and run to the hills?

Thinking of near Derry or Belfast.

Alicesweewonders Sun 31-Mar-19 22:57:23

I moved back to Northern Ireland from England last year. After being away for 18 years. I'm from Derry, it's a lovely wee city, however job opportunities aren't great here & pay is crap. Unless you've got a 'career' path, Belfast has a lot more job opportunities.

hopeishere Sun 31-Mar-19 20:32:04

I agree there is realism @showgirl and it's probably partly because it's not a very diverse place. In my child's school of over 400 children there's about three black children.

buckeejit Sun 31-Mar-19 19:35:41

Donegal & Fermanagh both too remote for me. Ballymena isn't a fabulous town but half an hour to Belfast & the coasts is pretty great & houses are so cheap in comparison. A neighbours house just sold for £220k ish & fil says it would be about £800k in their area of Yorkshire. I dream of a house by the sea but not practical for us as dh needs to work in Belfast ☹️

showgirl Sun 31-Mar-19 19:32:40

Yes there is racism everywhere you are right. I just haven't experienced people being openly racist like that in public .

Moneypenny007 Sun 31-Mar-19 19:17:20

I live in donegal and would consider moving to Belfast. I love the buzz the city has and has way more opportunities for work for myself and Dh.

Alsohuman Sun 31-Mar-19 18:34:04

There's racism everywhere @showgirl.

3timeslucky Sun 31-Mar-19 18:22:50

Just throwing in an outlier ... would you be equally happy if Ireland united? Just a thought given how it has been bandied about as a possibility in the light of all this Brexit (not one I'm hoping will come to pass anytime soon but some seem to be more keen and open to it happening) ... so you could lose the NHS, join our dysfunctional health system, total change of educational system with compulsory Irish to boot, and help fill the £11billion a year hole (funding NI currently gets from the UK) ... how appealing is that? ;-)

I've lived in London, live in Dublin (and have done most of my life) but my dad is from NI and his extended family still lives there. I wouldn't make the move. There's too much just bubbling under the surface. There are the issues of access to abortion services and the attitudes and laws around being gay. I've experienced what it is to see my country move to acceptance and support of things you have been able to take for granted so long in England/Scotland/Wales and have lived most of my life without them and I really don't know if you can imagine what it feels like to step out of that. It is the shittiest backdrop to life as a woman of child-bearing age (or indeed a gay man or woman). Add on the political situation and a political culture that is so incapable of compromise that it is rendered utterly dysfunctional - even in the face of losing any modicum of control over its own affairs. I know the UK is struggling with questions around democracy and control at the moment but I don't know that it touches the NI experience. I'd also add in the employment situation for consideration where 1/3 of jobs are in the public sector - which may or may not be relevant depending on your areas of employment. And looking further down the line, would your kids be less likely to stay because of the more limited range of options?

It is culturally different to the rest of Ireland, and to where you're coming from. Maybe it is possible to live without feeling the weight of that but I'd be bad at it. Maybe you'd be fine.

I can completely understand wanting to leave London. It isn't somewhere I'd particularly want to raise a family. But I'm not sure NI is either. That said, nowhere is perfect. Good luck with your decision making.

hibbledibble Sun 31-Mar-19 17:39:17

I'm a Londoner and can totally sympathise with the need to escape. It's too busy, polluted, and full of crime. The amount of stabbings and shootings in my locality recently is quite alarming. I have walked past a murder scene more times than I can count on the school run sad

I know next to nothing about northern Ireland but I would say go for it.

showgirl Sun 31-Mar-19 17:30:20

I don't think I could move to a country that doesn't allow women to have autonomy over their body. Also on a recent visit everyone was very friendly but there was a small amount of racism to people of different ethnicities.

peachgreen Sun 31-Mar-19 16:36:17

London to Donegal! Gosh. That would be a culture shock.

mullyluo Sun 31-Mar-19 16:05:10

Just moved over from London to Donegal three months ago and must say we have already decided we won't be staying long term. Its a beautiful place to live but so remote, no public transport, massively fewer children services (I also have two year old and one on the way), and to get small things like building work/internet provider/telephone connection is such a pain. We are thinking of moving to Fermanagh, but even that seems too cut off. I'd love to move back to England bu NI seems like an ok compromise.

origamiunicorn Sun 31-Mar-19 15:39:31

@AlsoHuman Definitely willing to give it another go. Guess we were unlucky.

Cocolepew Sun 31-Mar-19 15:30:42

You don't even need A* at gcse to go on to do A levels. What does that even mean?

Alsohuman Sun 31-Mar-19 14:50:35

You went to a different Belfast to the one I know @origami.

S1naidSucks Sun 31-Mar-19 14:37:15

League tables mean everything and GCSE's are repeated an infinite number of times until the crucial A star is in the bag. that’s an absolute load of bollocks! Why are you spouting such nonsense?

ILoveMaxiBondi Sun 31-Mar-19 14:30:19

GCSE's are repeated an infinite number of times until the crucial A star is in the bag

This is completely untrue.

origamiunicorn Sun 31-Mar-19 13:55:56

I went to Belfast recently on a long weekend and I don't know if it was just bad luck but people weren't too friendly. No thank yous, no doors held open, didn't feel very welcome. In comparison to Cardiff where everyone was lovely and very chatty and welcoming.

S1naidSucks Sun 31-Mar-19 13:40:20

Sorry isabellerossignol, I was talking generally, not specifically about the OP. She hasn’t elaborated what ties to NI she has.

user1480880826 Sun 31-Mar-19 13:37:51

Wait and see what happens with brexit. The Republic of Ireland might seem like a far more tempting option in a few weeks time.

isabellerossignol Sun 31-Mar-19 11:57:56

You can get an Irish passport if your parents or grandparents were born in NI. That way you can travel and live elsewhere as an Irish citizen.

Sorry, I didn't realise the OP had an Irish grandparent, I misunderstood.

I had just been chatting to a friend the other day who was born elsewhere (and not in the UK either) and we had been discussing how she wasn't entitled to an Irish passport despite having spent her whole adult life here, and I had thought the same might apply in this case.

S1naidSucks Sun 31-Mar-19 11:50:54

Sadly I think that only applies if you were born here You can get an Irish passport if your parents or grandparents were born in NI. That way you can travel and live elsewhere as an Irish citizen.

peachgreen Sun 31-Mar-19 11:40:13

@redexpat You make a really good point and that gave me pause too. But attitudes have changed and continue to do so - I genuinely believe it's only a matter of time.

Tunnockswafer Sun 31-Mar-19 11:32:08

Re the EU citizenship - OP mentions they have ties to Ireland - if these are in the form of an Irish/NIrish parent they are quids in! Not sure if it goes back to Gps too for a passport - perhaps?

ZippyBungleandGeorge Sun 31-Mar-19 09:37:11


Midwife told me I'd scored 2, so I asked her what the max was and she said 4 or under was fine "unless we were in London, where they use a max of 10. Because of the pollution"
This is laughable and untrue, I live on the outskirts of london and work in the city, the limits at the same here as everywhere else, oh and when I had my test last year I blew a 0.4

rosesandveg Sun 31-Mar-19 09:30:39

I moved from the north west to Northern Ireland 18 months ago, and I have honestly never felt so welcomed, settled and happy. It is a beautiful country and every day I feel privileged to live here. I live in north down, but the Belfast end and on the coast. A lot of people talk about bad weather - I have not found that so much but I think it is because we are so near the sea. People here are so friendly and welcoming, where I lived before I knew hardly anybody but here sometimes it’s a struggle to keep up with everybody! My DH is from NI and we have a 1 year old. I know it gets a lot of bad rap in the media for sectarian violence and anti-abortion laws, but we can’t do anything about the latter until we have a sitting government, we can’t have one of those until we sort out this Brexit mess, and generally opinions are changing here so I am hopeful for the future. Re the violence I feel safer here than when I lived in Manchester, it’s like any big industrial city, in fact we don’t live in Belfast because we just didn’t want to live in another city.

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