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WillBendTheKnee4Jon Fri 22-Mar-19 01:08:59

She asks while on her smartphone at 1 in the bastard morning

Fuck me I've tried everything I can but just can't drop off. I get maybe 3 hours during the day. It's starting to take its toll. I'm miserable. Dd is going through a very difficult time right now (waiting on a Cahms referral, the school are just now starting the process of getting her formally diagnosed with ADHD and Autism. I've had emergency meetings with the Senco officer and her teachers. Plus I had to get her an emergency appointment when she started crying and hyperventilating in class. Her teacher rang me in a panic) so as you can see I've plenty on my mind.
I was even prescribed a short course of zopiclone which had no effect at all. I'm stuck in a vicious cycle.

RSAcre Tue 26-Mar-19 00:35:15

Insomnia is gruelling & feckin miserable (quoth a longstanding insomniac.)

Have a look at this - especially point 5, which most people find too had to do, but it works if you commit & stick to it - www.tuck.com/sleep-hygiene/

If you're not asleep in about 15 mins, get up & do something else. It's a pain in the arse, especially when you have that awful overwhelming exhaustion but sleep is still not happening (I used to feel 'too tired to sleep' if that makes sense). But again, it's training yourself that bed = sleep.

Final tip - combined with all the above, do your routine, get in & get comfy, then work really hard at imagining it's half 6 in the morning & you have to get up at 7.
Weirdly, this has often worked for me ... because too often, that's been the exact scenario: up all damn night then nod off just before the alarm. It seems to be easier to convince self to drop off for a few minutes rest than expect a whole night of blissful rest - so once you've tricked yourself into doing this at 10:30 pm, bingo!

Good luck & I hope your understandable daytime worries soon diminish as you get more info & support. x

ShiftyLookingBadger Mon 25-Mar-19 22:59:44

Oh but make sure you watch them with a red screen filter app so the light doesn't keep you awake!

ShiftyLookingBadger Mon 25-Mar-19 22:58:11

Another for YouTube ASMR videos here. Especially 'ASMRMagic'.

Decormad38 Sun 24-Mar-19 12:34:21

Downloaded a few podcasts. Can’t wait to not sleep now!

NameChangeNugget Sun 24-Mar-19 12:26:20

Count backwards from 500

Decormad38 Sun 24-Mar-19 12:24:37

Just bought some pukka sleep tea from Sainsburys so Im pinning all my hopes on that!

CalamityJune Sun 24-Mar-19 12:21:09

This is my specialist subject!

Radio 4 app- In Our Time, A Good Read or similar. Also love an Agatha Christie.
ASMR videos on youtube
Change where I am sleeping, or get up for twenty minutes and then go back to bed and read

Princessmushroom Sun 24-Mar-19 12:12:58

I’ve not read the whole thread but the Sleep with Me podcast never fails to get me off (to sleep)

Japonicaflower2 Sun 24-Mar-19 12:11:40

I have a cup of milky coffee, couple of digestive biscuits and read until I feel dopey. Usually works! If desperate I take Nytol tablets.

chocolatelog Sun 24-Mar-19 11:48:33

Play poker on my phone. Within 10-20 mins I'm ready to go back to sleep.

MashedSpud Sun 24-Mar-19 11:45:53

Crochet or read.

Mmmmbrekkie Sun 24-Mar-19 11:43:02

*I’m up and showered and hair washed and it’s not 3am yet. I go downstairs and read or watch tv and usually find by about five o’clock I could sleep. Which is no bloody good because my alarm goes off at six.*

Is it any bloody wonder if your showering, washing your hair etc. This actions are meant to wake you up! Not relax you in to going back to sleep

Mmmmbrekkie Sun 24-Mar-19 11:42:13

I fall asleep in nano seconds
But then wake at 4.30 and can’t get back to sleep
Those taking melatonin - where do you buy from?

BettyBooJustDoinTheDoo Sat 23-Mar-19 00:55:20

I re design and re decorate friends and families houses in my head, I find it very calming.

llangennith Sat 23-Mar-19 00:54:18

Audible. Choose a book narrated by a soothing voice. My favourite go to sleep book is 'Love Nina' 😊

Nat6999 Sat 23-Mar-19 00:44:31

I read, listen to music, watch spot popping videos on YouTube, weird I know but it chills me out. I'm on pretty strong pain meds that in theory should knock me out but they don't always. If I get really desperate, i take Piriton or Night Nurse.

GhostHoward Sat 23-Mar-19 00:29:30

I put a 15 minute timer on my audiobook. Normally I'm asleep within that time (as I can't overthink anything as I'm listening) but sometimes it takes me resetting the timer. I've genuinely never had to reset it twice more than a couple of times. Generally the first 15 minutes calms my thoughts enough....but I have to remember to put on my audiobook. (Fantasy or historical fiction...I don't listen to crime books in bed....grin )

SteppinOutwithMyBaby Fri 22-Mar-19 23:55:28

@MadameDD "seeing as codeine co-codamol are only supposed to b taken 3 days in a row and no more than that, then that's a short term fix really in my opinion."

I take 30mg codeine/panadol for pain associated with RA, and have for years. I have queried this with both my doctor and pharmacist, and have been told that so long as I don't exceed the dosage, it's fine.

I do, however, have frequent blood tests for for liver, etc functions because of other medications I take.

WhyDidIEatThat Fri 22-Mar-19 20:11:16

Read
Masturbate, either ethically or with some porn
Sometimes give up and just get up and smoke and have a drink and a wander around
Then back to bed and read again

If still have problems the following night I’ll take something to help

Nearlythere1 Fri 22-Mar-19 20:07:20

Hi, I dont know if anybody has mentioned it an i've said it on here before, but many sleep problems are caused by a magnesium deficiency. It's not something many GPs seem to be aware of. Holland and Barrett does a great magnesium supplement made from natural sea salts. Take three capsules an hour before bed and see.

Also, get up and go in to another room and read a book if you can't drop off. A really boring one. My GCSE chemistry textbook used to do the job. I'd be sleepy within minutes. It's really hard to actually get up and do it, because so often you're thinking "i might drop off any minute and this will disrupt that". But it does help. Also, valerian root, the tincture not capsules. Alfred Vogel i think? 30 Drops before bed x

Sweetpea55 Fri 22-Mar-19 20:02:51

If I'm really restless then I might have a walk up and down the drive. I don't sleep well at all. I really should do night duty. I'm always awake

HomerDancing Fri 22-Mar-19 19:37:38

Watch ASMR videos on YouTube. Works everytime.

WillBendTheKnee4Jon Fri 22-Mar-19 19:34:14

Thank you all. There's some truly fantastic advice on this thread.

I finally fell asleep around 10.30 and woke at 2.30. It means more of the same tonight though. I tried holding off but it was no good. I made myself a brew and when I opened the fridge I had no idea what needed until I turned and saw my tea. That's weird.
I have the Glen Harrold apps but they're just not cutting it at the moment. Normally I don't get to the bit where you visualise your body from head to toe. I bought melatonin when I was desperate during my last horrific episode but it didn't help. The paracetamol thing made me wonder. In one of my favourite books the author says that her mother would sedate herself with aspirin. This was in the 30s/40s so maybe the ingredients were a lot different back then.

septembersunshine Fri 22-Mar-19 17:03:20

Feel for you op. I know this sounds weird but earplugs work for me. Just the foam ones in a blue box you get in Boots. Basically I stick them in and its like they block out the world and I can go to sleep.

Oh and something elce that helped me. Don't have a day time nap unless you can not live on without it. You need to set your body clock, so try to go to bed at the same time every night and set the alarm for the same time every morning. If you don't sleep, you wait till the night.

Also found writing down all appointments, things to remember, even shopping lists 2 hours before bed helped. Literally clears my head. Then I say, right. Nothing else to think about or worry about now. Hope you get this sorted op.

LikeACowsOpinion Fri 22-Mar-19 16:49:52

@MadameDD complain about those GPs. They're talking rubbish.

As I say, I'm at the stage of having to rely on prescription strength tablets after trying everything else and sometimes they don't even do the job.

Definitely try all alternatives first but paracetamol and other non-drowsy medications do not have a sedative effect - if you find that it works go you then great, but I'd imagine that's the placebo effect.
'Non-drowsy' medications in the majority contain caffeine - so will definitely not have the desired result.

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