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If you are a Labour member please get rid of JC

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Unfinishedkitchen Thu 21-Mar-19 07:09:09

He needs to be gone. We need an effective opposition as TMs speech last night showed she is a wannabe dictator. Only card carrying members can get him out.

Tomtontom Thu 21-Mar-19 11:46:00

If you want change, make it happen. Join a party and campaign for the change you want.

If you can't be bothered, want to leave it up to other people, then you can't moan when things don't go your way. You might want to criticise the current leadership, but it's hypocritical when you're doing sod about it yourself.

Take some responsibility. It's the only way things will change in a way you want them to.

TattiePants Thu 21-Mar-19 11:46:14

I'd also be happy with either Kier Starmer or Yvette Cooper.

Milicentbystander72 Thu 21-Mar-19 11:49:42

I'm not a Labour member but gave voted Labour in the past.

I would vote for Yvette Cooper or Tom Watson most definitely.

Milicentbystander72 Thu 21-Mar-19 11:51:41

It's not JC I'm not keen on, it's the entire front bench (apart from Watson).

Uptheduffagai Thu 21-Mar-19 11:54:13

No I love JC. He can’t do anything right in people’s eyes is the problem. People are more concerned about someone walking out of a meeting on their principles than a PM and party leaving most of the country in poverty and relying on food banks.

Seniorschoolmum Thu 21-Mar-19 12:07:14

Please choose someone who’s not still reading his student manifestos from the 60s.
We need someone modern.

bellinisurge Thu 21-Mar-19 12:12:29

@Uptheduffagai - No Deal Brexit will fuck everyone over and have more people relying on food banks ffs.

Uptheduffagai Thu 21-Mar-19 12:20:45

@bellinisurge Corbyn doesn’t decide or negotiate the Brexit deal though?

NameChangeNugget Thu 21-Mar-19 12:24:00

Jeremy Corbyn is brilliant

ChardonnaysPrettySister Thu 21-Mar-19 12:26:47

Corbyn doesn’t decide or negotiate the Brexit deal though?

Not directly, no.

But a parliamentary democracy can only be as strong as the weakest part, and the opposition is a vital to a strong democracy.

A weak opposition corrupts the governing party.

In this case they both resemble tantruming toddlers and as a result we all will be fucked.

bellinisurge Thu 21-Mar-19 12:41:49

@Uptheduffagai , but Corbyn can do what is necessary to make sure we avoid No Deal. He isn't showing that at all. In fact he is acting like someone who welcomes no Deal in the hope of emerging victorious from the chaos. No different to Rees-Mogg.

Uptheduffagai Thu 21-Mar-19 14:03:58

Just a prime example of what I’m saying really. He’s even being blamed for a no deal Brexit on the basis that he is ‘weak’ well if everyone keeps making out he’s this useless weak politician that just continues to fuel the fire surely? He campaigned for remain, he’s pushed for a labour deals with the EU and negotiated with them. Leavers complain if he looks to be supporting remain, remainers complain because article 50 isn’t being revoked. Obviously with a country split there is always a way to make him seem ‘weak’.

Can we please also remember that of the 2 main parties; 1 of them only thinks in Brexit terms the other 1 is also trying to save the NHS, combat homelessness, save the education system, hold ALL Mps to account, tackle tax avoidance and recoup monies owed to the treasury, ensure the most vulnerable in society are cared for, that pensioners are paid their dues instead of both being driven to early death with universal credit sanctions. I know who I'm voting for whether we stay in or out.

bellinisurge Thu 21-Mar-19 14:07:14

He didn't campaign for Remain. He just didn't campaign for Leave.
If he'd had any belief in Remain he would have shared a platform with DC and said "this bloke is a fucking twat [more politely] but I am so committed to Remain that I will stand next to him and campaign for it ".

bellinisurge Thu 21-Mar-19 14:08:49

And no, he isn't To Blame for Brexit but he's on my list of who is to blame. Lower down the list than Cameron but he's there.

Tavannach Thu 21-Mar-19 14:29:59

He needs to be gone. Jump or push, who cares.This shit show wouldn't be happening if Yvette Cooper or Keir Starter was leader.

It's worth remembering that the Daily Telegraph encouraged its readers to pay the £3 to register as supporters of the Labour Party so that they could vote for Corbyn in a piece entitled 'How You Can Help Jeremy Corbyn Win - And Destroy The Labour Party'.
Telegraph
But Jezza appears to believe that the cloth capped working men of yore voted him in. He also seems to think that these are the people who voted for Brexit. Imo much more likely to have been White Van Man and 'the casuals', the football hooligans who are also vocal supporters of England with 'No Surrender' and who are natural Tory voters.
Our political system is set up in such a way that it cannot function properly without an effective Leader of the Opposition.
so, Go Jeremy, Go.

SeaWitchly Thu 21-Mar-19 15:04:12

No can do OP, sorry.
I am a card-carrying member of Labour because of of Jeremy Corbyn.
I don't want to see him replaced and would be very happy to see him and his socialist values in Number 10,

Tavannach Thu 21-Mar-19 15:30:17

It's delusional to think that Labour can win an election with Corbyn at the helm.

Tootyfilou Thu 21-Mar-19 15:31:01

No.

AstonishedFemalePersonator Thu 21-Mar-19 15:33:47

The only reason to keep JC is that he is preventing Labour from being elected.

And I say that as someone who loathes the Tories.

Fazackerley Thu 21-Mar-19 15:39:41

God please not keir starmer

I remember when JC became leader of the Labour party, a friend if mine said he was a Tory plant to make sure Labour never got into power.

It seemed like a ridiculous idea at the time...

Numptysod Thu 21-Mar-19 16:25:39

Big issue is the garden tax - I got big garden tiny house, I be beyond poor! Ridiculous

Fazackerley Thu 21-Mar-19 16:27:32

Garden tax purely to punish people for living rurally and not being part of the metropolitan Labour voting class. Absurd.

kbPOW Thu 21-Mar-19 16:29:25

This government is the biggest shitshow ever and all you can talk about is getting rid of Jeremy Corbyn. What's wrong with you?

bellinisurge Thu 21-Mar-19 16:32:21

It's not "all I can talk about ". But I would like an Opposition leader that I can look to. For leadership.
He's just like every twatty ineffectual gobshite I went to University with in the 1980s.

MissKenton Thu 21-Mar-19 16:34:41

He’s a fucking disgrace and God help us all if one day he becomes PM

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