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If you are a Labour member please get rid of JC

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Unfinishedkitchen · 21/03/2019 07:09

He needs to be gone. We need an effective opposition as TMs speech last night showed she is a wannabe dictator. Only card carrying members can get him out.

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TeddyIsaHe · 21/03/2019 07:26

I’m a member and I completely agree. I was SO hopeful and excited when he first got in. His ideals line a lot closer with mine compared to past Labour leaders, but I can’t support him anymore.

I WANT Labour to get back in! Desperately and we can’t do it with him at the helm. What a waste. Labour should be strides ahead in the polls and we’re still lagging behind, even with all the appalling things the tories have done. Ridiculous.

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PinkPupZ · 21/03/2019 07:57

No

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Girlsnightin · 21/03/2019 08:05

I'm more than happy that he's in and staying in. But only due to the fact he is effectivley blocking Labour from ever winning an election. I cant beleive he was every voted in the first place, what you are seeing now OP was blatently obvious from the start. The only thing that will get a win for Labour is if they bring in another faux conservative aka Tony Blair type. That will swing the existing cons over like it did in 97. It's unbelievable that no one in the Labour party has realised that yet.

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Parker231 · 21/03/2019 08:08

He’s a child - throws his toys out of his pram when he doesn’t get his way. He’s had a charmed political life - never had to make decisions about anything!

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Unfinishedkitchen · 21/03/2019 08:08

Even if you’re a Tory, surely you’d want an effective opposition to provide challenge to ‘out there’ ideas? One party states are for countries like North Korea and Russia. Not the UK.

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Stompythedinosaur · 21/03/2019 08:12

No, I like him.

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pootyisabadcat · 21/03/2019 08:13

He's fucking dire.

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ghostyslovesheets · 21/03/2019 08:14

Member for 34 years and wish we could - he’s a liability- fed up of the anti feminist stance

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Treaclesweet · 21/03/2019 08:50

Nope. Despite horrendous establishment smears he is the best chance we have if we don't wish our country to be led by financiers against our best interest.

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ghostyslovesheets · 21/03/2019 08:52

Polls would disagree ‘he’s the best chance we have’ disastrous divided Tory party still in the lead

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megletthesecond · 21/03/2019 08:54

I wish it was that easy. He's a liability.

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TheQueef · 21/03/2019 08:56

And replace him with who?

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WhiskersPete · 21/03/2019 08:58

No! JC for PM!

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LeesPostersAreInFrames · 21/03/2019 09:02

I had such high hopes for him.

My last dregs of respect for him went last night. Not attending an emergency meeting of opposition leaders as the leader of the main opposition party when the country is in a state of emergency is, just....

Part of the reason we are in such a shit position is that he has been such a lame duck in opposition.

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Parker231 · 21/03/2019 09:15

@TheQueef. Kier Starmer?

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megletthesecond · 21/03/2019 09:18

Cooper.

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SerenDippitty · 21/03/2019 09:32

Keir Starmer.

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harrietpn · 21/03/2019 09:37

He's a child, last night is total proof of this. I honestly don't believe brexit would be such a total mess if we had an effective opposition...

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bellinisurge · 21/03/2019 09:44

Cooper.

I will never vote Labour with him as leader. I will not take responsibility for this leading to Tory Governments. Labour knows what it must do. I would vote Labour again if he and Macdonald and similar twats were back on the backbencher where they belong.

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LuLuReed · 21/03/2019 11:11

This seems, like a lot of these posts to be Concern Trolling.

I wish to state I am neither a Labour or Conservative voter.

JC while no where near flawless, seems to me to be one of the more principled Labour leaders of the last 20 years.

He's such a threat, that all sides are trying to tear him down.

Whichever issue he supports he's attacked for not supporting the opposite. I feel other politicians aren't being held to the same level.

Some of Labour seem determined to return to bland Blairite, Conservative light politics.

The point of opposition is to provide an opposition.

I believe most of the stories regarding him are efforts by other parties and those in his party who wish to claim the leadership.

Every day while the Conservatives carry on with their shambolic self caused Brexit mess, there seems to be a fluff piece on how JC is this or that.

These stories are meant to distract and keep JC's profile damaged. They would have you believe he's awful and unfortunately, people believe the newspapers, believe the power grabbers in his party and believe the online concern trolls.

I see little evidence of true Labour values left in the Labour party. Since 1997 they have been little more than Conservative-Lite and how is that an alternative.

As this country so sadly drifts to the right, you have the working class voting Conservatives and the newspapers deciding elections.

Who would you have replace him?

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GrapefruitsAreNotTheOnlyFruit · 21/03/2019 11:13

I would also love for Yvonne Cooper to replace him.

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WTFIsAGleepglorp · 21/03/2019 11:21

I'm sorry, throwing his toys out of the pram and walking out of a meeting, because Chuka Umunna is there is just childish.

He has failed to give a coherent policy stance on Brexit, other than 'not what the Conservatives are doing' and hasn't exactly covered himself with glory regarding Women, Jews, dissent, terrorist links and budget.

Ordering Labour MPs to abstain in order to vote against calling a second referendum. FFS.

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LuLuReed · 21/03/2019 11:38

@GrapefruitsAreNotTheOnlyFruit - While I like some of Yvonne Cooper's opinions on issues, she's is another pro-brexit, pro iraw war polictian, exactly what Corbyn was so derided for.

@WTFIsAGleepglorp - While refusing to participate was maybe poor form, the break away group are clearly being funded by several private groups. They are less a political group, rather lobbyist attempting to take the Labour vote and maintain the very dull Status Quo in British politics.

JC while very flawed and I admit that, is proof, you shouldn't rock the boat and attempt to do something different in British Politics.

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TattiePants · 21/03/2019 11:45

I am so fed up with JC and his ineffectual opposition that I was planning on canceling my Labour party membership. The only reason I'm holding on to it (for now) is so I would get a vote on a new leader.

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Tomtontom · 21/03/2019 11:46

If you want change, make it happen. Join a party and campaign for the change you want.

If you can't be bothered, want to leave it up to other people, then you can't moan when things don't go your way. You might want to criticise the current leadership, but it's hypocritical when you're doing sod about it yourself.

Take some responsibility. It's the only way things will change in a way you want them to.

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