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Buildmeup76 Sat 16-Mar-19 15:48:46

I’ve recently been offered a great new job however my notice period is three months. My new job may not be able to wait that long for me to start. Am i unreasonable to think that one month is enough notice?

Asdf12345 Sat 16-Mar-19 15:50:10

You may find it is negotiable with your current employer and depending how replaceable you are they may either let you go early without fuss or let you buy yourself out.

Confusedbeetle Sat 16-Mar-19 15:50:38

What is in your contract?

iamkahleesi Sat 16-Mar-19 15:51:02

Depends what your contract says. If you took the job knowing it was 3 months notice that's what you signed up for. Mine is 3months.

Romanov Sat 16-Mar-19 15:52:43

Maybe this should have been a consideration when you signed your contract?

(Obviously you can't pop into a Tardis and change it)

What level of seniority are you?

Popc0rn Sat 16-Mar-19 15:53:48

Depends on the job and how easy it is for them to replace you I guess. My notice period is 8 weeks, which is fairly standard for the NHS.

Maybe you can negotiate with your current employer? Always good to leave on good terms and not burn any bridges, unless you're desperate to leave.

didireallysaythat Sat 16-Mar-19 15:53:58

We have one month's notice for jobs that aren't critical or for people we aren't 100% convinced on. It takes 2-3 months minimum (usually more because of visas) for us to recruit into a role, and we'd expect the new person to be on 3 months notice too.

HardofCleaning Sat 16-Mar-19 15:55:08

See if it's negotiable. It really depends on the job. In previous jobs 3 months has been the minimum (up to even two years non-compete for some senior positions) but depending on who you are and what you know they'd be willing to negotiate down.

TheFlis12345 Sat 16-Mar-19 15:55:44

Three months is pretty in my role.

TheFlis12345 Sat 16-Mar-19 15:56:00

* pretty standard

MsAwesomeDragon Sat 16-Mar-19 15:56:05

I think it depends what industry you're in.

If it's a pretty normal job where recruitment can be done fairly easily then yes 3 months is excessive. Whereas if it's a specialist role where they may struggle to recruit it may be the bare minimum for them to replace you.

Skiptotheloo1 Sat 16-Mar-19 15:58:27

Oh good god yes!!!! I’m currently working out my three months notice and it is hell on earth.

Foxmuffin Sat 16-Mar-19 15:59:29

My job is 3 months standard. It depends entirely on what your profession is.

BarbedBloom Sat 16-Mar-19 16:03:44

We have one month notice periods in work and it takes three months to get someone into place. It causes a huge problem as we are in a lone work, front facing situation and there is no one to cover for the person who is leaving. As such we are now looking at changing the notice period to three months, with it being negotiable depending on recruitment.

I can see both sides now because of this and I do think depending on the role it could be appropriate to have a longer notice period just to keep the service running and minimise the load put onto other team members, but I also accept it can make things very difficult if you are trying to move roles

Elephantina Sat 16-Mar-19 16:05:42

3 months does feel like a lifetime when you want to go, but my boss resigned at Christmas and he's got to do a full 6 months! He bought six advent calendars in the January sales and is counting down...

Your employer might negotiate. When I last had to do 3 months they said they couldnt let me go sooner because there "too much project work" to get finished. hmm

Rystall Sat 16-Mar-19 16:10:20

Do you mean you feel that you can only give one month’s notice? Then YABU... your contracted notice period is 3 months. However you may be able to negotiate something. Your current employer has no obligation to let you go earlier though, even if they hire a replacement sooner.
What’s your notice period in the new job? Also, were you asked about your notice period at interview stage or when you were offered the job?
Have they said they won’t wait?

PercyGherkin Sat 16-Mar-19 16:12:44

If you are going to a competitor, don’t expect your employer to let you go early!

rainbowsugarsnaps Sat 16-Mar-19 16:16:05

@Elephantina that's amazing grin I'm almost certainly now going to do this.

TonTonMacoute Sat 16-Mar-19 16:21:47

You really need to address this sort of thing when you sign a contract of employment. There's no point complaining about it now confused.

Skiptotheloo1 Sat 16-Mar-19 16:22:18

I have a countdown on my phone until the end of my last day. It’s currently set in hours. It seems easier to think how many hours I have left rather than days as these tick down quicker.

Purplecatshopaholic Sat 16-Mar-19 16:29:37

HR person here. Depending on the level of seniority 3 months is absolutely standard. Lower level roles are 1 month and very senior roles are 6 months, but 3 months is general rule

ForalltheSaints Sat 16-Mar-19 16:32:12

Have a conversation to see if you can leave earlier, perhaps if you have leave you have not taken.

flowery Sat 16-Mar-19 16:33:53

”My new job may not be able to wait that long for me to start.”

Are they really saying they will withdraw the offer? Unless they have a very very close second choice with a shorter notice period that seems very unlikely.

”Am i unreasonable to think that one month is enough notice?”

Enough notice for what? To fulfil your contractual obligation? Doesn’t sound like it. To recruit a replacement? Probably not, in most cases. Conducting a recruitment campaign and then waiting for the preferred candidate to serve their notice will almost always take longer than a month.

DareDevil223 Sat 16-Mar-19 16:34:09

I have a three months notice period due to the level that i'm at, it's fairly standard and most employers would be fine with it.

RandomlyChosenName Sat 16-Mar-19 16:35:28

Those saying you need to negotiate when you sign your contract- would that actually work? If at taking the job, you said you only wanted to give one months notice wouldn’t your work just say no AND think you had no commitment to the role?

SardineJam Sat 16-Mar-19 16:39:05

Did your new company tell you that they won't wait that long of are you assuming that they won't wait. More than likely they have a similar notice period for your new role esp if it's specialised so they should be understanding - you need to talk to your new company

LaurieMarlow Sat 16-Mar-19 16:40:00

Standard in my industry. i also know of people who’ve worked 6 months notice.

But talk to your current employer. In my experience, people aren’t always held to the full 3 months. It may suit your employer to have you go sooner.

Chottie Sat 16-Mar-19 16:40:58

OP - do you have any holiday or TOIL to take, so although your actual finish date is in 3 months time, but your last day of work is earlier.

GuineaPiglet345 Sat 16-Mar-19 16:42:33

I’ve got a three month notice period and I didn’t find out until after I’d started the job, it’s not a senior job and I’m pretty easily replaceable so I’d assumed it would be 1 month, I didn’t even think to ask when I was interviewing.

It’s really stupid at our level because people hand their notice in then mentally check out, their work is always sloppy when it’s handed over and you can tell they’ve been doing the bare minimum.

AguerosAngel Sat 16-Mar-19 16:43:23

DH last role was 6 months notice (Director Level), he was able to negotiate it to 4 months as he sourced his replacement.

Namechangeforthiscancershit Sat 16-Mar-19 16:43:23

3-6 months is standard in my role

Hopefully you'll find your new employer to be a lot more patient than you're expecting

Glitteryfrog Sat 16-Mar-19 16:44:54

Ours starts at a month and once you've been in the business for five years it becomes 3 months.
It's a big company with multiple locations and loads of opportunities to progress and change jobs. Most people are within the company for well over five years.

LIZS Sat 16-Mar-19 16:46:48

Are you moving to a competitor? If so they are less likely to negotiate ime but may distance you from current clients and suppliers in meantime.

LaurieMarlow Sat 16-Mar-19 16:49:35

I’ve got a three month notice period and I didn’t find out until after I’d started the job

How can this be the case? It should be specified in your contact. If not the can’t hold you to it.

cuppycakey Sat 16-Mar-19 16:53:14

YABVU

You signed the contract so that's the notice period. I resigned from a job recently with the same. However, I was owed over three weeks annual leave so I left earlier.

It's possible that the employer was expecting that kind of notice period to be in place - it's very common in my sector and at my level so I would expect it if recruiting.

youknowmedontyou Sat 16-Mar-19 16:53:45

Yes it is, but it's becoming more common!

thedisorganisedmum Sat 16-Mar-19 16:54:46

Try to negotiate, but when it's in your contract, it's not unreasonable at all.

It's extremely unlikely they will have time to find your replacement, have him/her start and for you to do a handover in 1 month. They might be happy with your position being empty for awhile and someone else doing your job.

It's quite standard, and frankly, it's in your own interest too. If they get rid of you, you have your notice or at least the full 3 months pay.

Curiousmum69 Sat 16-Mar-19 16:56:14

Try being a teacher. For some terms it's almost 6 months notice!

NicoAndTheNiners Sat 16-Mar-19 17:07:36

Your new company are unlikely to go to the arseache of advertising, shortlisting and interviewing again. Even if they did it would take so long it wouldn't save time. I suppose they might offer it to the second choice but that would be very short sighted. To get the second best for the sake of a few weeks.

LeSquigh Sat 16-Mar-19 17:09:55

I should have given 8 weeks notice to leave my last role but my new (now current) employer needed me to start on a certain date which couldn’t be changed because it began with intensive training for a number of us that were starting.

Whilst I think of you can do the required notice you should, if it means leaving them in the lurch, I really don’t think you should risk upsetting your new employer and damaging your future for it. Just leave when you want to, what exactly can they do about it?

flowery Sat 16-Mar-19 17:11:37

”How can this be the case? It should be specified in your contact. If not the can’t hold you to it.”

The poster may well not have received her contract until after starting the job.

Rystall Sat 16-Mar-19 17:18:58

@RandomlyChosenName

Yes, it certainly is possible to negotiate a shorter notice period in certain jobs, before you sign a contract. You’ve nothing to lose by asking. However, this works both ways. If your new employer wants to terminate your contract during your probation period ( usually 6 months) they will equally have the benefit of the shorter notice period.

Tonsilss Sat 16-Mar-19 17:25:54

If you try to negotiate this kind of thing when you're offered a job, you risk the offer being withdrawn. Just apologise and give as much notice as you can. They are very unlikely to sue you in these circumstances.

SileneOliveira Sat 16-Mar-19 17:27:25

DH is on 6 months! In practice though the company lets people go in a shorter time period after they've done a full handover.

And as other people have pointed out, a longer notice period can work in your favour in other circumstances.

Romanov Sat 16-Mar-19 17:29:17

@flowery

”How can this be the case? It should be specified in your contact. If not the can’t hold you to it.”

The poster may well not have received her contract until after starting the job.

All of the jobs I have had I get the contract first? What do you check? I check for annual leave allowance and notice periods

Romanov Sat 16-Mar-19 17:29:40

....and hours (35 or 37.5 etc)

RubyWho Sat 16-Mar-19 17:31:36

My current role is 6 months, my last was three but I negotiated down to two when I left.

PinkSparklyPussyCat Sat 16-Mar-19 17:35:45

I think most people in my company are on 3 months notice, however my contract states 1 month. Does anyone know if they can force me to sign a new contract with a different notice period? I don't have a senior role.

flowery Sat 16-Mar-19 17:43:11

”All of the jobs I have had I get the contract first?”

Yes, and that’s normal. I would never resign without having seen and been happy with the terms of a new one. But there’s no (current) obligation to issue written terms until the person has been employed for two months, so it is possible that the poster in question handed in her notice and started a new job without knowing what her new notice period would be.

yorkshirepud44 Sat 16-Mar-19 17:43:53

Even if you didn't get the contract until you started (which is fine providing you do within 2 months currently, I think) the notice period should have been mentioned within your written offer.

3 months is fairly standard, if annoying. My boss has resigned and has a whole year to work shock

Isleepinahedgefund Sat 16-Mar-19 17:44:45

Ours depends on seniority and role, which works out a bit ridiculous sometimes. For instance. my current technical specialist role which requires three years specialist training for new starters has a one month notice period. My manager, who is not required to be a tech specialist, knows nothing about my work and therefore cannot take it over if I leave, has to give three months notice! I’m about to start a new more senior role and my notice period will be three months. I had two weeks of leave I had to take before leaving so in effect my notice is two weeks.

itssoooofluffy Sat 16-Mar-19 17:47:54

3 months seems reasonable, it allows for time to advertise, recruit, interview and hand over to a replacement if required.

But agree with PP it entirely depends on the profession. My DH was in the military and had to give a years notice, which is standard for them.

Inliverpool1 Sat 16-Mar-19 17:48:10

Gee whizz, my clients get walked off site and put on garden leave within the hour of resigning

flowery Sat 16-Mar-19 17:55:10

”Even if you didn't get the contract until you started (which is fine providing you do within 2 months currently, I think) the notice period should have been mentioned within your written offer.”

Depends what you mean by “should”. Yes, as a matter of good practice (and also to increase the likelihood of candidates actually accepting the offer), main terms should be communicated at the time the offer is made. But an employer is not obliged to do this. Although any sensible prospective employee wouldn’t hand in notice or start a new job without sight of the main terms of their new job.

Doyouneedthetoilet Sat 16-Mar-19 18:37:07

I promised to give 6 months notice when I left my last job, plenty of time to find a replacement you would of thought. But no I was there for another 2 months.

Mummyshark2018 Sat 16-Mar-19 18:40:37

3 months is standard in professional roles. We have a high level vacancy atm within the nhs the original person handed in notice, we then had to get agreement from HR to recruit again (as is the current situation in lots of public sector ages) to that post has meant that original person left last month, interviews in next few weeks and if successful that person is likely to have to give 3 months, meaning in reality we are going to be without someone doing that job until at least June! I don't know what the hold up was at the start but maybe that's public sector.

isabellerossignol Sat 16-Mar-19 18:42:30

I’ve got a three month notice period and I didn’t find out until after I’d started the job, it’s not a senior job and I’m pretty easily replaceable so I’d assumed it would be 1 month, I didn’t even think to ask when I was interviewing.

I used to work somewhere like that. I was at the bottom of the heap, on minimum wage and was still expected to give three months notice. It made it more or less impossible to leave, unless you could resign before finding another job. They knew that, that's why they did it. I didn't get a contract to sign until I had already started the job, so it wasn't something you could negotiate on before accepting the job in the first place. I got round it be resigning when I was on matenity leave.

isabellerossignol Sat 16-Mar-19 18:43:42

Mind you, the same employer also refused to give references of any sort, yet refused to employ anyone who couldn't supply detailed references hmm

Janella Sat 16-Mar-19 18:47:39

Mine was 3 months and gosh it was a tedious three months to get through!
A few months later a colleague left giving only two weeks notice as she suddenly moved away as her mother became very ill. She felt bad about letting her colleagues down as this no doubt impacted them but there was no other option. Employer was supportive.
Worth a conversation as soon jobs don't require a person to person handover, but others do. Depends on your role.

Scorpvenus1 Mon 25-Mar-19 12:19:21

Ok flame me all you want but I think 3 months or even 2 is unreasonable. I am about to hand my notice in today and a job that I have been after for years popped up. I have been here 3 years and nothing has changed they make us work late and I don't get to see my 1 year old in the evenings 5 days a week. So found a job closer and with better hours at 37.5 per week.

I do not plan to work my notice I am working till the 28th of March as I don't work weekends and then I will not come in and I wont owe any money to them. A lady left 3 months ago and the reasons was her brother died and had to leave for china immediately. I cant use this excuse so its the only way or loose out on the perfect job pay and location wise. Also if you were to drop dead tomorrow they would have a temp in within a week, so don't place all your loyalties to a company who wouldn't do the same for you.

anniehm Mon 25-Mar-19 12:29:02

3 months is normal for managerial and above, also professional type jobs. I'm on 3 months, dh is on academic year basis (notice by feb 1 to leave July 31, can't leave until following July otherwise)

OrangeJellySpread Mon 25-Mar-19 12:36:32

Do we work for the same idiot boss? I can understand 3 months for managers, but even the juniors at my place has 3 months notice hmm I just see miserable people who don't want to be there for at least 2 months in their notice.

ChaosMoon Mon 25-Mar-19 12:43:29

3 month notice periods are ridiculous. I've never seen anyone with a 3 month notice bit check out. At best. At worst, they become obstructive because they're so desperate to leave.

A former director would never negotiate an early end date for anyone in our department. By god he moaned when he had to work out all of his notice!

Alsohuman Mon 25-Mar-19 12:50:41

Three months is pretty standard. I was required to give that amount of notice in a job I had but my new employer wanted me to start asap. I gave a month’s notice and asked them if they were going to tie me to the chair because that’s the only way I’d stay longer. Needless to say, they caved.

Horsemenoftheaclopalypse Mon 25-Mar-19 13:09:04

What level?

3 months is totally standard for middle management office jobs.
Most people in our office are on 3 or 6, only v junior are on 1 or 2 months. (Below manger level)

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