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Forced to pay for neighbour's blown down fence

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Tarr Sun 10-Mar-19 09:54:19

Earlier this morning I went over to my neighbour's house to discuss their fence which has blown down during the night. It runs along the length of my back garden. I know they own it as they only recently had it tended to. Thought it would be a straight forward conversation- I'm not really bothered as my elderly dog can be supervised closely. However, neighbour says I need to contribute to fixing it due to allowing some ivy to have overgrown which has compromised the "integrity of the fence". Is my neighbour trying it on with someone he hopes is young enough to fall for it? If I have messed up I will hold my hands up.

I have a long commute into London so don't prioritise gardening in the Winter. I normally pay for gardeners in summer, whereas my neighbour is retired and obsessed with his garden.

I was very friendly but my neighbour was very abrasive and quite frankly rude.

EleanorRigbey Thu 14-Mar-19 22:27:59

I'm not bothered in the sense that I rarely use the garden and there's no rush but I would prefer the fence goes up in the next month or so for privacy reasons.

Again, if you want a fence for ‘privacy reasons’ either contribute to your neighbors fence or pay for your own fence.

The way I read it is you want a fence put up in the next month or so but not contribute or help.

MidniteScribbler Tue 12-Mar-19 00:24:47

I'm not bothered in the sense that I rarely use the garden and there's no rush but I would prefer the fence goes up in the next month or so for privacy reasons.

So you're not really bothered, but you are bothered enough to be over there on a Sunday morning and expecting it up within the month?

badlydrawnperson Mon 11-Mar-19 13:45:49

I was lucky as my neighbours fixed up (my) fence on their side after it was totally fucked up by their rapacious climbing plants.

I did know though that it was up to me ultimately though - if they'd not agreed to fix it, I'd probably have removed the fence altogether.

ScrumptiousBears Mon 11-Mar-19 13:19:07

I own the fences on both sides. I wouldn't dream of asking the neighbours to pay.

Dippypippy1980 Mon 11-Mar-19 06:48:49

If you want him to put the fence back up, I think it’s only neighbourly to contribute.

ScrumptiousBears Sun 10-Mar-19 22:07:51

Personally I'd put the fence back in his garden and leave it. Don't offer any money. If he is garden proud he'll get pissed off before you do.

Pewdie Sun 10-Mar-19 22:00:57

(name changed as I was quite direct on the TERF thread, pointless now I suppose)

Pewdie Sun 10-Mar-19 21:53:48

I didn't discuss contributing 1/3. Will keep schtum for now. I'm sure he's itching to fix the fence asap.

Pewdie Sun 10-Mar-19 21:49:47

I really don't understand why you went over to discuss the fence if you're not bothered if it is up or down. That seems so strange to me

I initially went over to acknowledge/reassure my neighbour who was pottering in the garden since 7:00 (as usual). I saw it as my only opportunity as we rarely see each other during the week due to my long commute. I'm not bothered in the sense that I rarely use the garden and there's no rush but I would prefer the fence goes up in the next month or so for privacy reasons.

How are you being forced to pay for it?

Perhaps I'm exaggerating but my neighbour was pretty emphatic when he told me I'll have to pay to fix the fence. I told him I would think about it and get back to him.

havingabadhairday Sun 10-Mar-19 21:21:51

A couple of months worth of ivy shouldn't help bring down a reasonably sturdy fence. I have more like 10 years worth of growth and the fence is still standing when many of our neighbours have blown down in the recent winds. But it is a good, well built fence.

I wouldn't pay.

BridlingtonSand Sun 10-Mar-19 21:08:30

How are you being forced to pay for it?

PinkSparklyPussyCat Sun 10-Mar-19 21:05:53

Our previous neighbours had ivy that wrecked the fence between us. They weren't bothered about and the deeds didn't clearly show who's boundary it was but we wanted to put cat proof netting on the top so we replaced it. DH successfully killed the ivy in the process so thankfully it hasn't grown back.

cranstonmanor Sun 10-Mar-19 21:05:37

I really don't understand why you went over to discuss the fence if you're not bothered if it is up or down. That seems so strange to me.

PickAChew Sun 10-Mar-19 20:57:44

When we moved here, part of our fence was only held up by ivy. All of the posts were completely rotten!

But, yeah, if he'd say noticed ivy forcing itself through, he could have communicated this to you, long ago. It's not like it will have grown much over the last 4 or 5 months.

Cherrysoup Sun 10-Mar-19 20:57:00

There’s no way the ivy wrecked the fence between last summer and now. We put up trellis last summer to cover a gap in the fence and trailed ivy over it, it’s still bloody empty! Nothing grew last summer, everything died. If he took down the fence and renovated it, it’s probably the work that’s done for it if he didn’t replace the posts. Do not offer to pay. What else will he ask you to pay for next? Retract any offer you may have already made.

PestyMachtubernahme Sun 10-Mar-19 20:51:38

If you want a fence covered by insurance, go to M&S,

If I had had a neighbour come to my house at 9.30 this morning (mid storm) they would have been categorised into the fecking bonkers group.

SynchroSwimmer Sun 10-Mar-19 20:45:02

I would suggest being nonchalant and saying you actually quite like the new open aspect....and you actually aren”t bothered about having a fence.

Willing to bet they soon deal with it!

CantStopMeNow Sun 10-Mar-19 18:53:56

Neighbour had the whole thing taken down at the beginning of Summer and had it straightened/reinforced
So HE had no issue with the ivy at that time and knew that it DID NOT contribute to any problems with his fence.

If you're 'clueless' enough to pay him even a penny he will use that as an admission of guilt and accountability on your part - which leaves the door open for him to go after you for more.

Ignore him and don't play the 'clueless' game when you know none of this is your fault/responsibility.

Chocolatedeficitdisorder Sun 10-Mar-19 12:49:46

Legally, nobody has to have a fence - a piece of string would do the job of marking the boundary.

Fences tend to be paid for by those who want them most.

PersonaNonGarter Sun 10-Mar-19 12:19:21

You sound a very nice neighbour (which is basically your first problem as well as the solution).

You don’t need to pay for the fence if you don’t own it.

Were the fence standing, you would need to pay for any damage the ivy did to the fence.

In this case, that is moot since the damage was done by the wind (?). However, if you believe the ivy damaged the fence enough to bring the fence down in the wind, you need to pay for that % of damage.

Frankly, the ivy issue seems complete bullshit and your neighbour is a grump.

diddl Sun 10-Mar-19 12:17:54

He's not necessarily trying it on at all.

If you don't want to share costs with him tjough you could always put up your own fence...

JinglingHellsBells Sun 10-Mar-19 12:14:57

Ignore him.

He'd have to prove your shrub did damage- that would cost him a civil court. he's not going to do that. he ought to have spoken sooner so you had a chance to rectify it. If he is such a keen gardener he ought to have foreseen this damage coming, if it is your ivy.

Dippypippy1980 Sun 10-Mar-19 12:13:26

Fences usually aren’t covered in house incurance.

JinglingHellsBells Sun 10-Mar-19 12:13:18

Why not phone your insurance company and tell them your neighbour will be claiming against them.

it's highly unlikely that a fence is covered by insurance.

I had cause to call our home insurance company today - not about fences- and, owing to the weather I assume- they have a recorded message saying do not expect to be paid for your fences if they have blown down as they do not insure fences.

Tarr Sun 10-Mar-19 12:09:53

I'm just offering as I'm quite honestly clueless. The few people I asked in RL (e.g brother, architect ex who used to live here) have told me to ignore him.

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