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To not understand why bullfighting still happens

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Holiday1578 Sat 09-Mar-19 14:07:42

Saw an upsetting picture on Twitter of the bullfighter and some official looking people in the front row laughing as a bull collapses and dies
Is anyone from or live in a country where bullfighting still takes place ? I don’t understand why there aren’t enough people against it for it to stop

Phuquocdreams Sun 10-Mar-19 12:26:19

I grew up on a farm, have seen how sheep are treated sometimes (though most of the time they’re just living a fairly natural life in a field), have been in a slaughter house etc. I’ve no problem eating meat at all, we are omnivores, we should just aim that the animals have the best life and death possible. I don’t think that’s anything like bull fighting. I, in my ignorance, went to a bull-fight in Seville, and it was one of the most shocking things I’ve seen, the gratuitous cruelty. It’s not even a fair fight, the bull is stabbed over and over before the matador even gets in the ring. Yes, we shouldn’t have gone, it was naive, but if we take the attitude that anything goes because humans are omnivores, why did we bother banning bear-baiting, dog-fighting, cock-fighting? Torturing animals for fun is wrong.

manicinsomniac Sun 10-Mar-19 12:56:10

This is probably a really stupid question but is it always the bull who dies? Do the fighters ever lose and get killed instead?

I can't imagine how horrible a bull fight would be to have to watch.

Holiday1578 Sun 10-Mar-19 13:04:37

Well said Pdreams

Maneandfeathers Sun 10-Mar-19 13:19:14

I really don’t get anyone that gets enjoyment over killing or seeing an animal killed.

Disgusting regardless of culture.

Islands81 Sun 10-Mar-19 13:29:35

The Spanish think very differently to (the bulk) of us when it comes to the treatment of animals. I’m a massive animal lover and have not eaten meat for nearly 30 years, and I found it upsetting when I went to Cadiz last year.

I went horse riding while I was there (made sure that the horses were well treated before I booked it). My guide was telling me that it’s seen as a status thing to have a horse. But often the only time people’s horses will see the light of day is once a year for the fiesta in town - the rest of the year they kept in a stable or shed 24/7, and then they get them out to ride them into town for that one day. Of course the horses have gone completely crazy from being shut in like that, but apparently the crazier your horse is on fiesta day, the better, as it’s more fun. Some of the horses at the stables I went to had been rescued from that kind of life, and it had taken years to get them ‘normal’ again.

LakieLady Sun 10-Mar-19 13:37:59

I have never been to Spain because I find bullfighting so abhorrent. When they ban it, I might consider going, but they'd have to stop doing some of the other cruel stuff to animals that happens at some of the fiestas.

I was really shocked to see a bullring in SW France (Gers), I had no idea the French were into it too.

RedRosie Sun 10-Mar-19 13:48:21

I hate it ... and things like the massacre of songbirds in Malta, or hunting with hounds here in the UK which really still goes on, or underground dog fighting.

But then I usually think to myself "tell it to a battery chicken". Most cultures exploit animals one way or another. We just have different levels of tolerance I guess.

JessicaWakefieldSVH Sun 10-Mar-19 13:53:37

Pdreams, do you not what omnivore means? It’s not the same as obligate carnivores. Just because we can, doesn’t mean that we must or should.

JessicaWakefieldSVH Sun 10-Mar-19 13:56:54

Torturing animals for fun is wrong. agreed. Some would argue that killing an animal that wants to live when you don’t need to to survive is wrong. My points really are that everyone draws different lines when it comes to animal use. If you still intentionally use them in some way, you’re just imposing your cultural beliefs on others whilst using animals in a different way and for different reasons. You could argue your reasons are better, more humane, but someone else might pick apart your own culture and where and how they use animals... dog breeding etc etc it’s something worth giving time to really think about.

SilverySurfer Sun 10-Mar-19 14:17:02

Bullfighting is an abomination, as is any activity which results in pain for animals in any so called 'sport'. Nor do I have sympathy for the matadors if/when they are gored by the bull.

Piewacket Sun 10-Mar-19 17:28:35

BejamNostalgia Hispanic means derived from Spain, it's the old roman word for Spain, Spanish people are Hispanic.

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