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rollingdowntheslide Sat 09-Mar-19 12:52:54

Did anyone come round and demand to come in?

I've heard things before about burly tv license folk demanding to come in and see if you have a TV.

Which we do, but we don't watch much tv and barely use the bbc I player at the moment. Can't remember the last bbc program Qe watched. We'd obviously stop watching the bbc all together when we have no license.

It's due soon and I'm reluctant to pay out £150 odd quid on something we barely use and could easily cut out.

jimmyhill Sat 09-Mar-19 12:56:45

we'd obviously stop watching the bbc all together when we have no license.

You have to stop watching ALL live TV when you stop paying a TV licence, in addition to not using iPlayer.

It's a TV licence not a BBC subscription.

TheQueef Sat 09-Mar-19 12:56:52

Nope I emailed and rescinded any implied right of access for tv licensing and their agents.
I don't watch live telly and am fully capable of deciding wether I need a licence.
I manage with fishing licensing and fun licensing and they don't knock round.
(Can you tell it makes me cross they send Capita? Even more so because I work for capita in a different role)

ADHMeeee Sat 09-Mar-19 12:57:36

I've only had a license sincs xmas and that's because we moved in with my boyfriend.

So for a good........ Nearly seven years I think, I didn't bother with a license. Only ever had anyone come out twice and both times I was able to show them that not only were we not hooked up to any cables, but that we didn't have iPlayer on the xboxes either.

We did use iPlayer's catch up until they changed the rules to say you had to have a license for that as well.

By that point, we were using netflix, DVDs and youtube.

rollingdowntheslide Sat 09-Mar-19 12:57:38

To clarify we don't watch any live tv. Only catch up on itv occasionally and channel 4. We mainly use amazon prime.

Is that allowed?

NannyR Sat 09-Mar-19 12:58:25

I cancelled mine a year ago. I filled something in on line to say I didn't need one and then I got quite a strongly worded letter that said I was risking a fine.
I called them up and spoke to them and they were absolutely fine about it - they asked me a few questions about what I watched, then noted on my record that I didn't need one and said just to ignore any further letters.

Bobbycat121 Sat 09-Mar-19 13:01:24

Ive never had one and im 30 been living alone since 16 😂

x2boys Sat 09-Mar-19 13:04:31

You don't have to.let them in ,we have had people turn u p.remark if they can come in just as no.

Danni91 Sat 09-Mar-19 13:05:12

Yeah go on the website and click 'do not require a licence' and they will not contact you for 2 years.
And tbh it doesn't even matter if you do watch live tv - they can not and do not know this. Your tele will still work fine without it!

I just cancelled mine too and stated it on the website. I only use prime / netflix also! smile

Custardo Sat 09-Mar-19 13:09:03

i dont have a telly but it is possible to watch live tv on a computer - and i dont understand how you can argue against a license - as they would say i had access to watching live tv - i always wondered how i would get round this

i have previouly not minded at all about paying as it is (for me) a ssmall sum I have always like that there is the bbc to counter the large media empires and the mesages we recieve. however i feel the bbc have an agenda at the moment and i dont like it

IWantChocolates Sat 09-Mar-19 13:13:52

We've just bought a house we're not living in yet. The previous tenants moved out last autumn and there were several letters about a license put through the door since. The last time I went round there was a card saying someone had visited to talk to us about our lack of license. It made me laugh because as you walk up to the front door they're are no curtains in the living room and it's obvious there is absolutely no furniture in there whatsoever! They're welcome to come round again. We're not moving in for another two months at least.

Meretricious Sat 09-Mar-19 13:15:14

x2boys Sat 09-Mar-19 13:16:12

Not really Custardo ,I n times gone by if you had a T.V chances are you were watching live tv these days people use tv to watch Netflix ,on Demand etc people have smart tv,s that they can use for internet access ,you tube etc

Louisianna16 Sat 09-Mar-19 13:16:12

I cxd it last October. There were a few threatening type letters for next month or two, in spite of my ticking all right boxes, but I ignored and they stopped.
Watch one or two past programmes on YouTube, but no live TV at all. Don't miss it a .bit, nor does anyone else in the house

rollingdowntheslide Sat 09-Mar-19 13:16:18

Thanks all, I will notify them and cancel it.

We never watch any live tv anyway. With a toddler and a baby we just want to catch up on sleep in our spare time blush

The only thing we regularly watch is amazon and YouTube.

YetAnotherUser Sat 09-Mar-19 13:24:39

I binned off my licence about 3 years ago when my Freesat box stopped working. Filled out the form to say I no longer needed a licence, never heard from them since.

Plump82 Sat 09-Mar-19 13:54:15 I asked similar a month ago and cancelled it 2 weeks ago when it was up for renewal. Ive had a couple of "warning" emails from them that are swiftly deleted!

UnderMajorDomoMinor Sat 09-Mar-19 13:57:23

You’d need to stop watching catch-up itv and channel 4

BiglyBadgers Sat 09-Mar-19 14:04:04

You can watch channel 4 and itv catch up without a licence I believe. It's only iPlayer catch up and any live TV you can't watch. Amazon prime and Netflix are fine to watch. Here's some more info:

I haven't had one for getting on 20 years. I've only ever had someone come round once and that was about 10 years ago. He was really very nice to be honest and not at all burly or pushy. Just had a peek in the livingroom to check if we had a massive TV and then left.

2birds1stone Sat 09-Mar-19 14:11:24

Do you children not watch cbeebies during their waking hours like mine

EEELA Sat 09-Mar-19 14:26:45

We had a letter a couple of months after we cancelled and that's been all (about a year ago now).

We don't have a TV in our living room, but do have one in a separate room for YouTube/gaming/Netflix etc, so I can't see what good could come from a house visit. Seems a bit bizarre!

iolaus Sat 09-Mar-19 14:30:23

We cancelled it a year or so back, via email - I think we get an email once a year to ask if it's still the case

We don't watch live TV (or iplayer - because that is covered by the TV license) - we pay for netflix and disney life

TV isn't tuned in, but noone ever came round

All the people I've heard of who had issues have phones so don't have a paper (or email) trail

BrightYellowDaffodil Sat 09-Mar-19 15:04:08

You’d need to stop watching catch-up itv and channel 4

That isn't true. You need a license for ANY live TV (regardless of channel) but ONLY catch up if it's iPlayer.

I didn't renew the TV licence for my old flat (previous tenant moved theirs to their new place and I didn't buy a new one) as I didn't need one. I had a couple of letters so registered that I didn't need one via the website. I renewed my 'I don't need a licence' status every two years and never had any bother from the TV Licensing people.

Pk37 Sat 09-Mar-19 15:05:10

Are you watching it through a plugged in device? If yes you need a licence .
Ds is at uni so we found all this out.
He can watch it on his phone or laptop if neither are plugged in but if you watch it on say a monitor or something then you need a licence

CheshireChat Sat 09-Mar-19 15:14:04

Pk37 nope, that's incorrect. As long as you don't watch live TV or any form of BBC you're ok.

We've never had a licence and never had any issues as we genuinely don't need it

buttertoff33 Sat 09-Mar-19 15:14:36

Did anyone come round and demand to come in?

they have no right to enter your property to double check. you don't have to let them in at all. just tell them u don't need a license and shut the door. They can only force their way in if they have court papers.
I haven't had a license in 20 years (don't watch TV, just Netflix these days) and never let them in no matter how threatening they behave. some of the 'inspectors' are right bullies. don't be intimidated.

Tiscold Sat 09-Mar-19 15:19:32

You can watch it without a license anyway... just not 'legally'.

Enquiry officers are engaged by Capita Business Services Ltd (“Capita”), a company contracted by the BBC to administer the television licensing system under the BBC trade mark “TV Licensing”.
Enquiry officers do not have any legal powers to enter your home without a search warrant granted by a magistrate (or sheriff in Scotland). They (like other members of the public) rely on an implied right in common law to call at a property as far as the door, while going about their lawful business and making their presence known. Enquiry officers must explain to the occupier of the premises why they are visiting, be polite, courteous and fair, and abide by rules of conduct.

You have no obligation to grant entry to an enquiry officer if you don’t wish to do so. If refused entry by the occupier, the enquiry officer will leave the property.

hibbledibble Sat 09-Mar-19 15:23:45

As above, they have no right thing force entry. However they don't tell you this, and can be very aggressive. Their behaviour puts me off ever getting a license, as a matter of principle, as I refuse to be bullied.

Dumbledorker Sat 09-Mar-19 15:25:25

Pk37 it doesn't matter what you watch it on as long as you aremt watching iplayer or live TV it's those two rules and that's it. You can watch ITV player etc as much as you want as long as its catch up TV and not live. You dknt get a signal from lugging the TV into the wall it's only for electricity. What about when your tablet or laptop is on charge and you want to watch something ? hmm .

CheshireChat Sat 09-Mar-19 15:29:42

What annoys is me is that they expect you to have a TV licence even if you're watching live TV from abroad that had nothing to do with them.

Princessmushroom Sat 09-Mar-19 15:31:02

Don’t forget that you pay your license 6 months in advance and you have to apply for a refund, it isn’t automatic.

We cancelled ours last May on the proviso that when we miss tv we get it back again. We haven’t got it back again. We have Netflix, ITV hub, All 4, the channel 5 one and Amazon Prime.

BitchQueen90 Sat 09-Mar-19 15:32:47

A family member of mine has no TV license (she only watches Netflix) and she's had letters AND had a man come round to check. She didn't let him in as her partner wasn't there.

flirtygirl Sat 09-Mar-19 15:50:07

I got rid of mine a few years ago now and I was only watching quest red and a couple of children's channels anyway.

I would rather watch things that I choose to watch, TV is boring. I watch property shows on channel 4 and a couple of things on Itv. I try not to touch channel 5 since they keep on with all the poverty porn rubbish.

I missed Luther but people have uploaded it to many platforms and I can't think of any other BBC shows that I'd miss. The BBC website is not as good as it once was and I don't listen to their radio either. I find the snippets of BBC news that I catch at my mum's to be very biased, it not like it was before.

I'm not missing anything and I gain £150 a year.

Cantrememberwhoiam Sat 09-Mar-19 16:46:45

I was an enquiry officer for years. They do not have a right to enter your home without your permission, and you only get a fine if you stand at your door and help them fill in the form that is used to take you to court. And, no, they do not know if or how you are using your tv. They rely on you giving them this information at the door as they fill in their form. Hence why you are cautioned...anything you do say can be used in evidence. They have to legally caution you because what you tell them will be used as evidence in a court of law AGINST you. Sorry, wanted to add that bit after reading a debate about the caution on a previous thread.

ChangedAgainForAChange Sat 09-Mar-19 16:53:55

What CAN you watch without a licence? Is Netflix and YouTube okay?

flyings0l0 Sat 09-Mar-19 16:56:03

anything that is not life TV (apart from BBC iPlayer), i.e. Netflix, Amazon prime, YouTube, catch up TV from non BBC channels (e.g. itv, channel 4 catch ups etc)

Cantrememberwhoiam Sat 09-Mar-19 17:03:16

The licence pays to receive a signal for all free view channels and iPlayer. All other catch up tv you don't need a licence. And someone pointed out you need a licence for tv subscriptions from abroad - this is correct. It is not actually the channels, but the signal the licence is for, therefore as foreign subscription come through a UK signal you need a licence. Sky tv is a simple example.

CheshireChat Sat 09-Mar-19 17:12:53

Cantrememberwhoiam I appreciate that might be the case up to a point, but I actually meant (obviously I failed to clarify the first time!) that you need it even if you watch the equivalent of iPlayer or stream content online.

I do understand you'd need a licence, I used to pay extra abroad to watch BBC crime or similar.

Cantrememberwhoiam Sat 09-Mar-19 17:18:20

No, you don't need a licence if you are streaming content online or watching equivalent catch up to iPlayer.

Thankfuckitsfriday1 Sat 09-Mar-19 17:24:15

biglybadgers - why did they need to check if you have a massive tv?

we have a massive Tv and no license. We use amazon prime, netflix and nowtv

rollingdowntheslide Sat 09-Mar-19 17:26:15

@Cantrememberwhoiam thanks for your comments. That's interesting to know.

If I'm not watching any live tv or watching any bbc catch up then they won't be able to give me a fine, surely? I certainly wouldn't use it if I'm not paying for it.

What do I say if they do knock?! Can you tell I'm tempted to just continue paying it for fear of any confrontation blush

Tiscold Sat 09-Mar-19 17:31:26

You open the door, they identify themselves and then you close the door on them.

You don't have to speak to them, listen to them or let them in.
They have no powers to enter your property without going through the courts to get a search warrant, and if they've no evidence how are they going to do that?

If you're politer then i am, open the door, they indentify themselves, you answer the questions, say you don't watch live tv or any catch up tv and no i won't grant permission for a stranger to wlak around my house and good bye

x2boys Sat 09-Mar-19 17:32:16

Dont answering they do knock or if ok do answer as no thanks ,the have no rights at all just ignore them

x2boys Sat 09-Mar-19 17:34:15

Answer if they do knock*

x2boys Sat 09-Mar-19 17:34:56

If you do*

x2boys Sat 09-Mar-19 17:35:38

Day no thanks*

SnowyDaze Sat 09-Mar-19 17:36:10

Interesting thread. We don’t watch live tv, but I do watch iPlayer, so basically I’m paying £12.50 a month for the BBC!! It doesn’t seem good value. I may just stick with Netflix and Prime and skip iPlayer and save the money instead!! Thanks OP

CheshireChat Sat 09-Mar-19 17:38:02

Cantrememberwhoiam even if you stream live content or am I misunderstanding what you're saying?

Limensoda Sat 09-Mar-19 17:40:50

It's a TV licence not a BBC subscription

The licence money is for the BBC
You have to have one for any device that can receive BBC whether you you choose to watch it or not.

Limensoda Sat 09-Mar-19 17:49:10

Actually, just found this...

jimmyhill Sat 09-Mar-19 17:52:56

*The licence money is for the BBC
You have to have one for any device that can receive BBC whether you you choose to watch it or not.*

Yes, the licence money funds the BBC. However you need a license for any device capable of watching live TV. Including ITV, Channel 4, Dave, and Babestation.

IN ADDITION, you need a licence if you do not have equipment capable of receiving live TV, BUT you use BBC iPlayer. You do not need the licence for other streaming services.

cardibach Sat 09-Mar-19 17:54:31

Where I live I can’t receive terrestrial TV. Hacks me off that I have to pay for some other platform/buy a smart tv/faff about with a laptop and wires to watch live tv or BBC but they still demand the licence fee.

DownstairsMixUp Sat 09-Mar-19 17:58:19

Cancelled ages ago, haven't paid for years. They have no power. People are cottoning on.

DownstairsMixUp Sat 09-Mar-19 18:03:31

Same as previous pp they have no power if they knock just say "I'm not interested in your subscription" and close the door.

HopelesslydevotedtoGu Sat 09-Mar-19 18:06:10

If they come round, you don't need to let them in. They would need to get a court order to enter without your consent, and they will only get that if there is evidence suggesting you are fraudulently watching live TV/ iplayer., which there won't be if you aren't.

Dh did let a TV licence inspector in once and she was only there for 2 mins, polite, although she did try to catch him out "oh did you see the match last night?" "Do you like doctor who, did you see it on Saturday"....

Cantrememberwhoiam Sat 09-Mar-19 18:09:59

@CheshireCat Yes, sorry, you do need a licence if you are streaming 'live' tv. They have no way of policing this tho!

Bookaree Sat 09-Mar-19 18:15:13

I haven't had a TV licence in years, only had one of thr salesmen turn up at my old house, I said no thank you and shut the door.

Sheogorath Sat 09-Mar-19 18:21:33

"Yes, the licence money funds the BBC. However you need a license for any device capable of watching live TV. Including ITV, Channel 4, Dave, and Babestation."

Not true. I have a TV that's capable of watching live, but since I don't use it to watch live TV I don't need a license.

flirtygirl Sat 09-Mar-19 18:46:14

So much misinformation but many have been correct.

You only need a TV licence if you watch live TV, any live TV including foreign channels and/or use BBC I player.

You do not need a TV licence for anything else.

YetAnotherUser Sat 09-Mar-19 19:19:28

There are even some instances where you can use the iPlayer without a licence. I believe it's within the rules to use the iPlayer for the radio, and to watch S4C.

scaryteacher Sat 09-Mar-19 19:32:40

Knew I'd seen this somewhere - I've copied it below as it's behind the DT paywall.

The TV licence is firmly at the top of the news agenda again after the BBC announced plans this week to increase it by £4 a year to £154.50.

Currently costing £150.50 it is required by anyone who wants to watch live TV or catch up via BBC iPlayer and funds the programming created by the state broadcaster.

But a little-known loophole means students could be unwittingly putting themselves at risk of a £1,000 fine if they misunderstand the rules around licences.

The legislation allows students living away at university to be covered by their parent's home licence if they are watching live TV, or iPlayer, on “devices powered by their own battery”.

This rule is designed to allow those who want to watch live TV on-the-go on a laptop or tablet to do so without risk of prosecution, as long as they have paid for a licence covering their home address.

However, plugging in a laptop while using it to watch live TV could be the difference between complying with the law and breaking it.

The TV Licensing website offers guidance to students that says they will be covered so long as the device is not connected to an aerial or plugged into the mains. This leads to a bizarre scenario in which a student watching TV on their laptop is covered by their parents’ licence, but as soon as they plug it into the mains they are no longer covered.

A spokesman said: “The provision in the legislation (about equipment being powered by its own batteries) is the same provision which enables someone to be covered to watch television on any equipment used away from their address as long as they have a licence at home.

“This means you’re covered to watch TV on your phone or laptop for example, when you’re on the go. If you plug the equipment in, the provision no longer applies. This [is] due to the way in which TV Licensing legislation is drafted.”

You will need a TV licence if you intend to watch live programmes or BBC iPlayer while at university on a device that is plugged in. If you have a shared tenancy agreement one licence should cover the entire property, but if your tenancy agreement covers only your room you will need a licence of your own.

You can apply for a refund if you don’t need a licence for an entire year. The maximum fine for watching live TV without a TV licence is £1,000.

PettyContractor Sat 09-Mar-19 19:39:59

However you need a license for any device capable of watching live TV

So everyone with (for example) a Smartphone needs a licence? I don't think so.

I've just checked licensing web site, and there's nothing in the conditions that relates need to have a license to what equipment you own.

ginghamstarfish Sat 09-Mar-19 19:43:58

Cancelled about 3 years ago, had no problems. After a couple of years I think they send a declaration form to sign, which I would have binned but DH said better to do it. I would certainly not let anyone in if they ever came to the door. Glad not to be paying it, don't miss it and the few dramas I'm interested in come up on Netflix etc.

killpop Sat 09-Mar-19 19:48:36

I filled in the declaration online to say I didn't need a licence. A few weeks later someone came to my door and asked if they could check my circumstances. Why would they have to demand entry? I invited them in and confirmed we didn't have access to live TV ( could show them we had no aerial ) They gave me a letter that I could show anyone who asked again in the next two years and said after that they may need to visit again.
Was very simple really, because I knew I was doing nothing wrong.

BeanTownNancy Sat 09-Mar-19 20:58:15

*The licence money is for the BBC
You have to have one for any device that can receive BBC whether you you choose to watch it or not.*

Nah, you have to actually watch live TV or the iPlayer. My car is capable of going over 30mph (over 70mph even, for that matter) but the police can't issue me with preemptive speeding fines just because I could break the law, I have to actually speed. Same thing really.

Cantrememberwhoiam Sat 09-Mar-19 21:05:51

You only need a licence for your smart phone, or lap top, or Xbox for example, if you admit to an enquiry officer at your door that you watch live tv on it. And then agree to buy one.

Thecurtainsofdestiny Sat 09-Mar-19 21:14:02

Not had a licence for years, as don't watch live TV or iPlayer.

İt's never been a problem.

ValeurNutritive Sat 09-Mar-19 21:16:31

We cancelled ours. Oddly I like that the BBC exists and use the website a lot, but we don't watch any live tv. We used to watch iPlayer occasionally but obviously don't anymore. It was hard to justify paying the license fee just to use iPlayer maybe once per month.

We stick to Netflix and Prime now (although obviously we could watch other non-bbc catch-up services if we ever wanted to).

ValeurNutritive Sat 09-Mar-19 21:17:17

Have never had a problem with license inspectors or anything like that.

CheshireChat Sat 09-Mar-19 22:09:27

Cantrememberwhoiam thanks for clarifying, I thought that was the case.

DP always encourages me to pretend not to speak English with stuff like this grin.

killpop the man that came a couple of years back was absolutely fine, but some are aggressive wankers and they also get people to sign things to admit that they've been watching live TV when they haven't so not letting them in the first place is easier for a lot of people.

All I can think of now regarding the TV licence is the bloody Tommy Robinson debacle which is irritating me even further.

AirBiscuit Sat 09-Mar-19 22:13:29

When I cancelled my TV license a big burly bloke came round and hammered on my door, demanding to know what the hell was I thinking.

I invited him in ,and one thing led to another. Next thing I know I was appointed controller of BBC2.

Danni91 Sun 10-Mar-19 07:24:16

This is the email you in response to declaring you do not need one on their website few days later I got a letter saying if anything changes before hand let them know and otherwise they will send me a reminder in 2 years time.

IF someone did knock you treat them as any other stranger and say sorry no you can not come in.

They have no rights to enter and basically all they do is try to get you to say you watch television and can you sign this paper for me so I can fine you?

Best not to engage with them at all. smile dont worry, they will be used to people closing the door on them.

Rezie Sun 10-Mar-19 07:32:13

Let's say you use the TV to watch Netflix and Amazon, but never watch live TV. What would the officials do then? You need to prove that the TV is bluggged in a way that tv is not possible to watch?

Rezie Sun 10-Mar-19 07:33:17

A l9t of countries have moved to a media tax that is mandatory because people stopped paying the t.v. license and since whole tv concept is changing. I'm guessing this will come to the UK at some point to fund BBC

NigelGresley Sun 10-Mar-19 08:00:11

I don’t understand why people would happily pay for Netflix rather than the BBC.

Netflix also relies on buying most of their content from other providers, including BBC.

If we move to a situation where none of the broadcasters have any public service obligations then eventually we should expect much more limited and poorer quality programming.

Bookaree Sun 10-Mar-19 08:12:45

I don’t understand why people would happily pay for Netflix rather than the BBC.
I preferred what was on my online subscriptions, different strokes.

Pk37 Sun 10-Mar-19 08:15:20

It’s not incorrect , it said it on the tv licence site and any site about students and tv licences

BiglyBadgers Sun 10-Mar-19 08:42:52

I don’t understand why people would happily pay for Netflix rather than the BBC.

I don't often feel a huge urge to watch a lot of the BBC stuff. Netflix is cheaper than the licence fee and some of the Netflix original stuff is really very good.

We currently have Netflix and Amazon prime and then get Now TV on and off if there is something we really want to watch on it. This gives us access to a lot of things we wouldn't be able to watch if we only had a TV licence. If the BBC had a cheaper option for just catch up you could pay on a monthly basis we would probably pay for it when they had specific things on, but not all the time. We don't own an actual TV and never watch live.

Danni91 Sun 10-Mar-19 08:53:39

Netflix / Prime has things more to my liking and the BBC does not.
Don't often watch the television and when i do get enough time I like to binge watch a series.
Paying the TV licence is like you paying for netflix and not watching it
Pretty pointless isnt it? grin

topcat2014 Sun 10-Mar-19 08:59:38

Glad I don't work in tv licencing, as I just would not believe anyone who had a tv in their lounge and an aerial on the roof who said they did not watch it.

NameChanger22 Sun 10-Mar-19 09:04:09

I have a TV licence but I hardly watch TV, never BBC, just Netflix and YouTube most of the time. I begrudge paying it, but I don't dare get rid of my TV licence while I still have a TV in the house, I couldn't cope with the stress of it. Maybe when my TV breaks I won't bother replacing it and I'll get rid of the licence.

x2boys Sun 10-Mar-19 09:06:20

It doesn't matter wether they believe or don't believe e that s someone is watching tv Topcat ,they would have to prove it,and a tv isn't evidence as lots of people use them for internet access, prime tv Netflix etc and neither is an aerial when we moved into my house there was already an aerial I assume it's been there for years?

NigelGresley Sun 10-Mar-19 09:46:12

My comment has been taken out of context which misses the point I was trying to make. Would Netflix be able to exist if it wasn’t riding on the success and work of other providers, some of which benefit from TV licence funding?

I find Netflix quite inconsistent, I might subscribe for 3 or 4 months but after that find I’ve exhausted everything of interest and I don’t even watch that much TV.

Anyhow I gather a UK version of Netflix is going to be launched this year called BritBox.

Bookaree Sun 10-Mar-19 09:51:40

Would Netflix be able to exist if it wasn’t riding on the success and work of other providers, some of which benefit from TV licence funding?
Most of their funding now goes towards original content

BiglyBadgers Sun 10-Mar-19 09:53:15

Would Netflix be able to exist if it wasn’t riding on the success and work of other providers, some of which benefit from TV licence funding?

Honestly, it's hard to say at this stage. They are getting more and more recognition for their own stuff (including the recent Oscar) and now produce a huge amount of content of their own. They are very coy about viewing figures though so hard to say if they would be sustainable without content from other services.

All the same I don't really see that as an argument for me to get a TV licence. As Netflix will be paying the BBC for the content it uses, having a TV licence would mean I am paying for that content twice.

Sheogorath Sun 10-Mar-19 11:03:48

"I don’t understand why people would happily pay for Netflix rather than the BBC."

Because Netflix is cheaper and there's more stuff I want to watch. Not that complicated.

"Glad I don't work in tv licencing, as I just would not believe anyone who had a tv in their lounge and an aerial on the roof who said they did not watch it."

I'm glad you don't too. I live in a rented flat that has an aerial and have a TV for Netflix and gaming. It's really not an unusual situation.

"Would Netflix be able to exist if it wasn’t riding on the success and work of other providers, some of which benefit from TV licence funding?"

Maybe not, but I don't see how that matters. They pay for that content, presumably out of money from subscription fees.

NigelGresley Sun 10-Mar-19 15:18:07

TV licence £150 per year, compared to £80 per year for a much more limited range of content on Netflix.
Doesn’t add up to me but if people prefer that then fine!

Sheogorath Sun 10-Mar-19 15:19:22

Limited to you maybe. But as I said, there's much more stuff that I personally want to watch on there, including some BBC content.

RafaIsTheKingOfClay Sun 10-Mar-19 15:34:39

I don’t understand why people would happily pay for Netflix rather than the BBC.

Because I 99% of what of what I was watching was on Netflix and very little of it was on BBC. And Netflix was les than half the price. It was a bit of a no brainer considering I can’t afford them both.

BelfastSmile Sun 10-Mar-19 15:38:05

This was a decade ago, but I cancelled mine and had no trouble. A guy came round, I showed him that the tv was hidden behind the Christmas tree, but offered to turn it on to show him it wasn't tuned in. He said not to worry, and went away.

Pumpkinheadmisfits Thu 14-Mar-19 18:15:43

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