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ASnowballsChance Sun 03-Mar-19 08:03:27

DC aged 10y and 5y still haven't caught chicken pox. I know it can be more severe the older you get. This is slightly complicated by me not being immune to CP despite having it as a child and being in contact with it since via siblings.

Anyone else have older DC not yet caught it?

Auramigraine Sun 03-Mar-19 08:05:23

No help sorry but interested to follow as my 5 year old still hasn’t had CP despite being around it three times now....

Jackshouse Sun 03-Mar-19 08:06:12

If you can afford it then you can get them privately vaccinated.

ShrinkWrap Sun 03-Mar-19 08:06:41

Can you afford the vaccine? I would definitely do it if you can.

BTW how can you tell you are not immune?

MeowthThatsRight Sun 03-Mar-19 08:07:21

Just get them immunised if you can afford it. I had mine done last year and it was £35 for each injection, each child has two injections about a month apart. I’d never really considered doing it until my next door neighbors little boy ended up in hospital with septicaemia from scratching his spots.

RubberBabyBuggyBumpers Sun 03-Mar-19 08:07:37

You can get them vaccinated at boots if you're worried. Costs about £70 I think.

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine Sun 03-Mar-19 08:09:50

My nephews had it at Christmas aged 12 and 10 and, aside from the itching, they barely noticed, it certainly didn't spoil their Christmas. My girls had it younger, I think about 5 and 2, and they really suffered, and one of my eldest's classmates ended up in hospital with it at the same time. If you're really worried you can pay to have them vaccinated, I wished I'd done that.

Auramigraine Sun 03-Mar-19 08:10:20

MeowthThatsRight Where did you get them done please?

Did i read somewhere they will need a top up when older?

My partner swears he has never had CP either so i don’t know if that’s linked...

TillyTheTiger Sun 03-Mar-19 08:11:06

I would vaccinate if you can spare the money. We vaccinated our 2yo as I had it when I was 6yo and it was horrible, I still have the scars. £130 at superdrug for the full course (2 injections).

gubbsywubbsy Sun 03-Mar-19 08:13:16

My son is nearly 8 and has swerved this 4 x in playgroup and each year and obvious other times out and about .. I think he must be immune and don't want to give him the vaccine unnecessarily.. although reading these responses i may get him done as I always worry it will clash with holidays .

Faster Sun 03-Mar-19 08:14:05

I’ve never had chicken pox, though I was immunised in my 20’s for work.

lyralalala Sun 03-Mar-19 08:14:52

You may find they've had a very very mild dose.

I have 6 kids, all bar the 8yo have had CP. He has been around when all of the others have had it, yet has absolutely been in contact with it.

Stuckforthefourthtime Sun 03-Mar-19 08:17:52

Why don't you immunise them?

MeowthThatsRight Sun 03-Mar-19 08:18:40

A lot of pharmacies do it. Just ask at your local one, if they don’t do it they’ll be able to tell you where does.

ASnowballsChance Sun 03-Mar-19 08:30:47

I know I'm not immune because I asked them to check when I was pregnant with my 5yo and I also asked them to check again when I had a blood test for something else a couple of years ago.

Cookit Sun 03-Mar-19 08:32:05

Yeah I would just immunise.

ems137 Sun 03-Mar-19 08:50:31

I got one child vaccinated at a regular NHS doctors (not our GP) but paid for a private prescription and then the other child was done at Superdrug. It's 2 injections, 4 weeks apart, at a cost of £60 each injection.

I've never had CP either but have been tested for immunity and I am immune. The doctor says I must have had it but without any spots or maybe just a hidden spot.

Whatishappenin Sun 03-Mar-19 09:29:53

My two DDs haven’t had chicken pox and they are 26 and 18 now. My DS had CP when he was 20 months old. I had it when I was about 20 at university and was very ill. I might pay to get the girls vaccinated actually.

Blahdeblahbahhhhh Sun 03-Mar-19 09:34:43

Get them vaccinated. Best money you’ll ever spend. I feel genuinely smug (but keep totally silent obviously!) every time it does the rounds grin

katykins85 Sun 03-Mar-19 09:37:42

I always thought I was immune too....until I got them at 32 shock It was shit, to be honest!

MajesticWhine Sun 03-Mar-19 09:41:34

I caught it as an adult. It was terrible.
The 5 yr old still has a fair chance of catching it I would think, and could then pass it to their sibling.

tokirara Sun 03-Mar-19 09:43:06

Immunise if worried about it. Peace of mind! My mum caught it as an adult while we were on holiday. It was dreadful and she was incapacitated for 2 weeks.

villageshop Sun 03-Mar-19 09:44:21

Agree with the others about getting vaccinated but does anyone know if that means you have it in your system so it can resurface later as shingles? Or would having the cp vaccine also prevent shingles?

Having just had shingles I now would do anything to prevent my dc from having chicken pox, yet when they were young it was the done thing to ensure they got cp. the problem with that I've since discovered is that the virus then lies dormant and can resurface years later as shingles which can be very nasty.

zsazsajuju Sun 03-Mar-19 09:48:05

They’ve probably never had measles or mumps or meningitis c either - are you worried about that? Or did you vaccinate?

Get them vaccinated against chicken pox. It can be a serious illness and there’s simply no need to spread it around when there is a vaccine unless you genuinely can’t afford it.

zsazsajuju Sun 03-Mar-19 09:50:39

@village - there’s a shingles vaccine too. But I don’t know if you can get shingles when you’ve had the vaccine rather than the disease.

happymummy12345 Sun 03-Mar-19 09:51:45

I got it when I was 17 years old, and it really was awful. I was covered head to toe, on my head, in my mouth. It took me over an hour to apply calamine lotion, and the cold baths in January were awful as well.

Smoggle Sun 03-Mar-19 09:54:36

My oldest didn't get it til year 1 - it was getting to the point of thinking about vaccinating him.

I would definitely have the 10yo done.

Youmadorwhat Sun 03-Mar-19 09:57:19

Mine are 3 and 5 ad still haven’t had it either. I keep meaning to vaccinate if I’m being honest. 🙈

gubbsywubbsy Sun 03-Mar-19 09:57:24

How do you get checked if you are immune ? I asked my doctor ages ago and she said you couldn't get a test 🤷‍♀️

Littlebelina Sun 03-Mar-19 09:58:56

www.boots.com/health-pharmacy-advice/vaccinations/chickenpox-vaccination-service

You can find your nearest boots that do vaccinations and book appointments online (other places also do it). Not cheap esp if you get all 3 of you done but cheaper than a week off work ( or 3+ weeks as you might get it one after another!)

LittleRen Sun 03-Mar-19 09:59:44

My sister thought her 9 year old was immune then he caught it off my 6 year old. He was absolutely fine, had it no worse than my three boys (none of whom were even itchy).
I would give it another year or so, it seems to be around at the moment.

Mmmhmmm Sun 03-Mar-19 10:01:15

Just get all 3 of you vaccinated.

YouBumder Sun 03-Mar-19 10:01:36

I’d get them and you vaccinated

Seeline Sun 03-Mar-19 10:01:39

My sister and I had it at 13 and 15. We had been in contact with it many times, and our mum even had shingles and we didn't catch it. Never found out where we eventually caught it because all our friends had had years before. We both had it very badly. Spots in our mouths, ears, eyes, soles of feet etc. Both had a full 2 weeks off school - not ideal at that age. This was over 30 years ago so no vaccine, but I would get it done now.

ittakes2 Sun 03-Mar-19 10:02:38

I had mine vaccinated - they do it as standard for free on the government health system in American and Australia as advised but the world health organisation. I'm assuming UK does not do it to save money but you can have it done privately.

WhiteNancy Sun 03-Mar-19 10:03:03

I paid £70 for dd to be vaccinated when she hadn't had it by 16.

JassyRadlett Sun 03-Mar-19 10:04:29

Vaccinate sooner rather than later. The vaccine is less effective in teens and adults than it is in children.

Toomanycats99 Sun 03-Mar-19 10:12:03

I hVe two dd - 7 and 11. The 11yo had some spots when she was about 11.5 months - doctor said hand foot and mouth but I was not convinced as they were in front and back. She has never after that caught it despite her best friend at nursery who she spent all her time with catching it.

The 7yo has just come out in it - seems to be not too bad a case so far but wondering if her sister will get it. If she doesn't I guess maybe she has had it or is immune.

I didn't realise I could get her vaccinated even at her age - I may think about that as would not want her to get it as an adult.

dietcokemegafan Sun 03-Mar-19 10:13:13

Just get them vaccinated, and you too.

Captaindobbin Sun 03-Mar-19 10:16:30

The vaccine is a live vaccine and we were told that the chances of getting shingles later in life are exactly the same as having CP

fivedogstofeed Sun 03-Mar-19 10:19:10

My dc were 10 and 8 when they finally had chickenpox, despite it having done the rounds of their school every year.
Both were really quite poorly.
With the benefit of hindsight I would absolutely vaccinate and really wish I had.

Littlebird88 Sun 03-Mar-19 10:20:48

I had thought my 10 year old hadn't had chickenpox but then she had shingles so must have had chickenpox so mildly we didn't notice

Violetroselily Sun 03-Mar-19 10:26:52

I thought I was immune until I got it at 21. Worst thing that's ever happened to me, thought I would never recover.

Get them vaccinated

Xmasbaby11 Sun 03-Mar-19 10:31:09

I have dd 5 and 7. 5yo had it mildly, 7yo has managed to not get it despite a lot of exposure. I might get her vaccinated. She has asd and gets very upset when ill.

lljkk Sun 03-Mar-19 10:31:58

I had very mild CP as an adult. Nothing hamburger event.

JassyRadlett Sun 03-Mar-19 10:44:47

The vaccine is a live vaccine and we were told that the chances of getting shingles later in life are exactly the same as having CP

Who told you that?

It’s at odds with most studies I’ve seen, which indicate HZ rates among immunocompetent people are much lower in vaccinated people than people who were infected with the wild strain.

Dutch1e Sun 03-Mar-19 10:54:42

@Auramigraine it's possible your kiddos have had CP but not noticed. My daughter was definitely exposed as a small child but had no spots. Really no symptoms aside from a raised temp for one evening.

She's been exposed half a dozen times since and never caught it so I can only assume she had a very mild case.

Pizzamyhart Sun 03-Mar-19 11:09:22

I'm in my 30's and never had nor have I been vaccinated. I have much younger siblings and was around them when they had it and still didn't get it. My Nan has never had it either.

IsAinmDummm Sun 03-Mar-19 11:10:42

My DH got chicken pox in his 30's and was the sickest I've ever seen him. He passed it onto my 9 month old, who still to this day (12 years later) is scarred from it. I'd vaccinate if you can at all.

CuppaTeaAndAJammieDodger Sun 03-Mar-19 11:23:31

10yo DD Aldo hasn't had them. She had blood tests recently due to recurring coldsores and it turns out she's immune to chickenpox!

Auramigraine Sun 03-Mar-19 12:51:43

@Dutch1e thanks for that..... I’m starting to wonder the same aswell tbh...... my 5 yo has had raised temperatures a number of times over the years and no other symptoms so maybe he has. Does anybody know if there’s anyway you can have bloods tested privately to check for immunity? I doubt GP would just do it for no reason.

Captaindobbin Sun 03-Mar-19 12:52:22

When I got DD and DS vaccinated last year the nurse who gave the vaccine told us there is a risk of them getting shingles as adults but no higher than if they had had chicken pox as children. So maybe bathe risk is lower but I think she was just reassuring us that it isn’t any higher (this was after reading all the possible side effects of the vaccine out etc)

Cookit Sun 03-Mar-19 12:55:24

@Blahdeblahbahhhhh
A few children caught it at nursery at Christmas. I felt bad for the parents but I was just so pleased in that moment for me!!

4TeensAndABaby Sun 03-Mar-19 13:25:53

Another vote for private vaccination. My son was vaccinated at Superdrug. 2 injections, 4 weeks apart. £65 per injection.
He had no side effects.
The nurse also told me the same as another poster re: shingles. He could still get that as an adult.

BlitheringIdiots Sun 03-Mar-19 14:37:50

Take them for the vaccination. We spent 12 years on CP watch them decided to pay for the vaccination so getting it now won't affect exams etc. I had it aged 21 and it was vile.

stevie69 Sun 03-Mar-19 14:46:37

I've never had it. I'm 52 later this month. I understand that it's not pleasant for adults but I'm reasonably confident of avoiding it.

Nat6999 Sun 03-Mar-19 14:59:13

I got Chicken pox when I was 12, my mum also caught it, she was 39. We were both very poorly covered from head to toe inside & out in spots. My dad used to leave us both in my mum's bed with a packet of sandwiches & portable tv when he went to work. I was off school over 2 weeks, went back to school for 1 morning & started with measles, then caught mumps as my quarantine was ending. If you can get your kids immunized, that is better than waiting for them to catch it because they will never get it when it is convenient & there is the danger of them passing it on to someone who has immunity problems.

Pk37 Sun 03-Mar-19 15:01:31

My ds18 and my dd7 haven’t had it . Don’t think my dh has either

Housewife2010 Sun 03-Mar-19 15:17:41

My sister and I both had Chicken Pox at 30 and we were fine.

JassyRadlett Sun 03-Mar-19 15:28:15

The nurse also told me the same as another poster re: shingles. He could still get that as an adult.

Based on the available evidence the incidence is low, and the evidence isn’t always clear whether the patient had the % of CP vaccine that didn’t take (particularly after the original single-dose vaccine) and had wild-acquired virus with no symptoms instead (some documented cases were due to wild virus, from my reading).

The lag rate between CP and shingles is the issue here - the two-dose vaccine schedule in particular hasn’t been around long enough for there to be enough population-scale data. But the trend to date is much lower incidence among the vaccinated than those who have caught the wild virus.

There may be evidence I’ve missed. The nurse is right, he could still get shingles as an adult. But then, he could still get CP.

tinytemper66 Sun 03-Mar-19 15:34:02

I had it at 21 despite my twin having it at 10.

Thesearmsofmine Sun 03-Mar-19 15:34:05

My dc have never had it either(8&6), I thought they would get it when DH had shingles a couple of years ago but nope. I think if we get to 10/11 and they still haven’t had it we will get them vaccinated.

missyB1 Sun 03-Mar-19 15:39:20

Got my ds vaccinated at two years old. Chickenpox can be a bloody horrible illness, I had it aged 10 and was very ill for weeks

Janus Sun 03-Mar-19 15:39:23

I vaccinated my 7 and 15 year old last year as despite their other siblings having it neither of them had had it and it was going around youngest’s class. Youngest got chicken pox 2 days later as it must have already been in his system!! 15 year old still didn’t get it so I’m convinced she’s immune so didn’t have the second injection. Both of them didn’t even flinch having the injection so must be a very small needle. I’d definitely recommend having it. I was convinced we’d get it just before a holiday or middle of GCSEs which is why I did it in the end.

BalloonSlayer Sun 03-Mar-19 16:05:48

Sorry just placemarking as I want to book an appt.
Thanks for this thread by the way flowers

Dutch1e Sun 03-Mar-19 16:10:59

@Auramigraine yes I'm pretty sure there are services that offer titre tests. They're problematic though as they can give a negative result even in people who are immune.

HavelockVetinari Sun 03-Mar-19 16:30:17

DH and DS were vaccinated together as soon as possible after DS turned 12 months. Since then CP has gone through his nursery like wildfire but DS swerved it.

iklboo Sun 03-Mar-19 16:33:20

I was 40 when I caught it from DS.

Gindrinker43 Sun 03-Mar-19 16:49:19

Chickenpox can be fatal, just like all childhood illnesses, vaccinate.

MitziK Sun 03-Mar-19 16:51:26

I caught it when 25 weeks pregnant.

Ended up on oxygen in A&E within 6 hours of the first blister appearing as a result. Nobody from Maternity would come to check whether the baby was OK because of the fear of taking the infection back to the wards. So I spent the time pushed away in the furthest corner of A&E until my sats came up a bit. The only interaction I had was somebody looking in through the curtain to check I was still alive every few hours. No food, no water, nothing past the first person who saw me who stayed past his end of shift, saying he'd already had it, so was prepared to put the mask on me and one nurse calling through the curtain to let them know if I go into labour.

I had them everywhere - inside and out - for weeks. Vaginal chickenpox is not something I'd wish upon my worst enemy. Had it been any later in my pregnancy, DD could have suffered horrendous effects (including blindness) and, any earlier, I could have miscarried.

My entire body felt like it was on fire. I've had severe sunburn before and that was a walk in the park in comparison. I've spilled boiling water over myself and that was nothing compared to the pain of chickenpox.

Calamine lotion burned and stung. Water burned and stung. Clothes burned and stung. Breathing burned. I lost over a stone and became anaemic when I'd previously been fine - but I couldn't be checked/have a blood test until I was clear of the blisters, as the GPs wouldn't have me in the surgery when they had immunosupressed and/or elderly patients there and their HCA hadn't had it.

Had I not caught it then, but did when I'd started medication for Psoriatic Arthritis, I'm told that it can easily become fatal (which is why I suppose I was barred from the GP and Maternity/Antenatal unit for the duration).

Vaccination is worth every penny, IMO.

Whatelsecouldibecalled Sun 03-Mar-19 17:34:36

I had chicken pox as a kid (4) and the had it as an adult (30!) last two weeks before Xmas last year! Doctor said having it as a kid doesn’t 100% mean you won’t get it as an adult.

YouBumder Sun 03-Mar-19 18:37:51

That’s horrendous Mitzi. I had it in adulthood too and was pretty poorly but not as bad as you and at least I wasn’t pregnant. I had them up inside as well, horrible. The ones on my face became infected with MRSA which was a joy.

tor8181 Sun 03-Mar-19 21:29:00

my 14 y old and 8 y old have never had it or any other illness apart from the odd cold
my niece and nephew had it bad 3 weeks ago and youngest still went visiting to see him(only 4 months between them)and i was convinced he was going to be ill as he got in bed with his cousin but no nothing

im 38 and never had the pox or measles or anything like that

itsabongthing Sun 03-Mar-19 21:41:28

My second child got to 7 and still hadn’t had it so got her and the younger one vaccinated at the Superdrug clinic. It cost £60 for each dose (they needed 2 doses) but I could have easily spent that money on extra childcare to work extra days at work to make up missed time if they’d both had it plus it can be mild or can be horrendous. Many countries have it as one of their standard vaccinations.

Bloggee Sun 03-Mar-19 21:46:08

Placemarking too
My 10yo has had it but her younger sister had, I was baffled as my 10 yo was an extreme preemie and I expected her to pick up all sorts , but nah

Any recommendations other than Superdrug? Don’t fancy them since I’ve seen them join the crappy ear piercing club

capercaillie Sun 03-Mar-19 21:54:06

I got it when I was 32 and pregnant. Luckily all was fine. I had asked for immunity to be tested during my first pregnancy but midwife refused - apparently she shouldn’t have done. They tend to assume you’ve had it and not noticed. Tested for immunity during 2nd pregnancy and not immune - hence catching it from toddler DS. I had been in contact with it before though as child and adult and not caught it. Both children have had it but if they hadn’t, I would have got them vaccinated in their late teens

Graffitiqueen Sun 03-Mar-19 21:57:09

My kids are 9 and 12 and have never had chickenpox. Thank you for this thread as I had no idea Boots and Superdrug did immunisations so I’m going to book them in.

Usingmyindoorvoice Sun 03-Mar-19 22:00:10

I’d get them vaccinated.
I got it when I was 29 and 35 weeks pregnant with my second child, it was awful.
Thankfully it was before Dr Google so I didn’t know about all the possible complications, but I was plastered with spots, including where the sun don’t shine!

JassyRadlett Sun 03-Mar-19 22:05:12

Both children have had it but if they hadn’t, I would have got them vaccinated in their late teens

Sorry to butt in here, but in case others are reading - it’s much better to get children vaccinated in childhood, when the 2-dose vaccine is around 99% effective; it drops to 75% in teens and adults.

I’m not absolutely sure of the drop off rates and thresholds but it’s definitely worth bearing in mind - it surprised me when I first read it!

ASnowballsChance Sun 03-Mar-19 22:07:51

That's quite a steep decline in effectiveness for adults and teens, suppose it's still better than nothing though.

JassyRadlett Sun 03-Mar-19 22:14:24

Yep. Having had the disease in my 20s, I’d take a 75% chance of not getting it!

ASnowballsChance Sun 03-Mar-19 22:20:59

Although interestingly enough, the last GP I spoke to about me not being immune to CP said that she reckons I would be fine if/when my DC catch it. I wonder what that was based on, I didn't think to ask at the time.

JassyRadlett Sun 03-Mar-19 23:53:02

Probably what my mum was told, that I’d had it without symptoms.

Except it turned out I hadn’t. I also know a bloke who got it from his kids aged 40, he was horribly ill.

BlitheringIdiots Mon 04-Mar-19 17:50:00

Stevie69
I thought I was reasonably confident of not catching it until someone took their CP infected child on a plane on seat next to me when I was 21......

Roomba Mon 04-Mar-19 17:54:49

When DS hadn't caught it by age 6 I worried like you, OP. I worried he;d get it as a teenager or adult and be very ill, so I booked him in to have the vaccine privately. Which I then had to cancel because he came home with chickenpox a few days before! He had it mildly, thank goodness (PoxClyn/piriton thank you too). DS1 had it as a baby and was horribly ill and sore with it. He still has scars whereas DS2 has none that I can see.

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