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Anyone applied for baby's first passport recently?

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HollyGoLoudly1 Thu 28-Feb-19 14:01:03

Hi all, posting here for traffic. Also probably an AIBU because it seems ridiculous to me that I have to do this!

Applying for my baby's first passport and the document checklist says I need to send the grandparents birth certificates and marriage certificates? Really?? I obviously don't have them and while I could probably get hold of my parents certificates, we are NC with my DP's parents. He doesn't even have an address for his dad anymore.

Has anyone applied for baby's first passport recently and am I definitely understanding this correctly??

welshweasel Thu 28-Feb-19 14:02:11

We applied recently and didn’t have to send anything like that. I think it depends on when you were born though.

Ribbonsonabox Thu 28-Feb-19 14:03:00

Really!? We just did and I included the marriage certificate because of surname change issues but there was no mention of grandparents birth certificates?!? And we have received the passport fine!

Ihavealwaysknown Thu 28-Feb-19 14:05:14

Nope, just sent off her birth certificate and filled in the bit with our passport numbers smile

DrQuinnMedicineWoman Thu 28-Feb-19 14:06:46

I did the same as @Ihavealwaysknown. Mine & Dh passport numbers on the form plus DD's full birth certificate. Got it back within 4 days.

ArnoldBee Thu 28-Feb-19 14:06:51

Anyone can order certificates from the general register office and they cost around £10 each I have a collection from family history research.

NotTired Thu 28-Feb-19 14:08:16

I just wrote grandparents details. I even left DH's Dad blank as he doesn't know him and it was fine. I didn't include any proof. I think if both parents already have passports there will already be a paper trail from that.

VelvetPineapple Thu 28-Feb-19 14:09:02

I wasn’t asked for any of that stuff. Just our passport numbers and the baby’s birth certificate. If you need certificates you can order them from the records office, you don’t need to be in contact with the people in question.

TwittleBee Thu 28-Feb-19 14:11:53

Assuming you are talking about a British passport?

www.gov.uk/get-a-child-passport/first-child-passport

Doesnt seem any need for what you mentioned. When we applied for DS' not that long ago we just had to enter our passport numbers and send of his birth certificate.

Tawdrylocalbrouhaha Thu 28-Feb-19 14:12:26

Eh? I didn't have to do any of that when applying for DS's first passport, and neither I nor his father even have a UK passport. I can't remember if I put my Irish passport number TBH.

ColeHawlins Thu 28-Feb-19 14:15:16

Is this because you and your OH were born after 1983 (or 1984 or whatever the cut off year was?

If so, it's to do with establishing nationality. (Before then we had strict Jus Solis, meaning anyone born in the U.K. before then automatically had British citizenship. But since then nationality partly depends on your own parents' status.)

HolesinTheSoles Thu 28-Feb-19 14:17:44

I got advice about this (I've lost my own birth certificate and didn't have access to my parents'). I was told to just write a letter explaining when and where the grandparents were born and their nationality details.

ColeHawlins Thu 28-Feb-19 14:18:21

Obviously, if you and your OH already held British passports when baby was born, then your nationality is established and so grandparents are irrelevant.

HolesinTheSoles Thu 28-Feb-19 14:18:27

We didn't have any problems and one of my DC wasn't even born in the UK, and one grandparent isn't English.

dementedpixie Thu 28-Feb-19 14:19:29

I think you don't need those details if you put your own British passport numbers where indicated as that shows you are British citizens and can therefore pass that on to your child

Skylucy Thu 28-Feb-19 14:21:04

We applied a couple of months ago. I was born in 1984 and DH isn't British, but we still didn't have to provide either of our parents' birth certificates. We used the fast track service and DH collected it from the passport office - we were both confused by the wording of the form but he was told in person that such details weren't needed.

ColeHawlins Thu 28-Feb-19 14:21:48

Do one or both of you have a British passport?

If so, just stick that passport number on the firm and it will be fine.

dementedpixie Thu 28-Feb-19 14:27:51

From the passport notes:

About grandparents: If your parents were born on or after 1 January 1983, you will also need to provide evidence of your grandparents’ claim to British nationality by providing their birth certificates and, in the case of grandfathers, their marriage certificates.

*This does not apply if*:
• your parents’ British nationality is based on registration, naturalisation or their immigration status, or
you have provided the number of your parents’ British passports in Section 4 of the application form.

MCC85 Thu 28-Feb-19 14:43:53

We were both born after 1982 and for our 5 month old we had to send his birth certificate, and provide our passport numbers.
We did have to provide our parents details and marriage dates too.
His passport was back within a week.
It is easier to do online if you have facility to print, it only asks the questions that you need to answer and tells you exactly what you need to send x

HollyGoLoudly1 Thu 28-Feb-19 15:15:00

Thanks everyone. We (the parents) are both born after 1983 but both have British passports. The wording is confusing, I must just be reading it wrong. The form has asked for grandparents details though!

ColeHawlins Thu 28-Feb-19 15:35:47

Those paper passport forms are particularly badly designed. I've never filled one in without reading twice and checking something.

They really should use the "If yes, complete Q 3b, If no, continue straight to Part 4" format that most official forms employ.

dementedpixie Thu 28-Feb-19 15:45:08

Is it the paper form or online?

dementedpixie Thu 28-Feb-19 15:45:33

P.s. it's cheaper to apply online

janetforpresident Thu 28-Feb-19 15:47:50

I am born after that date and got eds passport last year and we didn't send those details. I think it's only if you don't have a British passport

CustardOmlet Thu 28-Feb-19 15:56:00

I did the online application and it asked for grandparents details but I just left them blank where I didn’t know (don’t know DH biological fathers details). I also forgot to put my passport number on the application. I posted it on the Friday and returned the following Thursday back in January.

Lazypuppy Thu 28-Feb-19 16:03:06

Its asks for grandparents.details such as date of marriage etc but you don't need to send any documentation

QforCucumber Thu 28-Feb-19 16:04:50

We were both born after 1984, as long as we both have passport numbers you input those and then are not required to send grandparents details

Blondiecub0109 Thu 28-Feb-19 16:06:48

I agree that the wording is confusing ... I think there should be an OR between the bullet points on the sheet you are referring to. I interpreted that I just need to send applicaion, photos etc plus baby’s birth certificate and my birth certificate (DH is not British)

SherlockSays Thu 28-Feb-19 16:10:19

I applied in August last year - didn't have to supple certificates but did have to know dates or marriages, previous names etc.

traveller11 Thu 28-Feb-19 16:39:54

I was born after the cut off date so was meant to send baby's grandparents details but only have my mum's info. NC with my dad and baby's dad too.

Explained it all on a letter along with the info I did have and it was all fine.

Rtmhwales Thu 28-Feb-19 16:42:42

I had to supply grandparents' birth certificates as my DS was born abroad and only his father is British (I'm not) - seems unlikely you would have to.

Either way, they're super easy to get as long as you know the person's name, what city they were born in. You can select a two year range to scan for, you don't even need to know their actual birthdate (I didn't know XH's mother's DOB but guessed the year and got it back within a week no problems). You can request them online.

dementedpixie Thu 28-Feb-19 16:44:29

You don't need the details if you have a British passport as the child gets their British citizenship from that. The passport is your proof you are a British citizen.

There may be spaces to fill in details but it doesn't mean every section needs completing - the notes say grandparents details aren't required if the parents passport numbers are provided

Joopy Thu 28-Feb-19 16:46:15

I got one in 2018, I just had to give details of DS's grandparents, date of birth and dates of their weddings.

MagicKingdom Thu 28-Feb-19 16:47:10

We just wrote the details down on a extra piece of paper and sent along with application form. Came back within 2 weeks.

Asiama Thu 28-Feb-19 16:49:43

We had the same confusion a few months ago. We are both British and when I rang the Home Office, they said that grandparents details are therefore not needed. We left the section of the form blank.

Whoevenknowswhattodo Thu 28-Feb-19 16:53:45

We just put the dates down of my parents marriage on a seperate piece of paper. Not my husband's parents though.
All was accepted. We posted their applications on the Monday and passport arrived on the Friday we were well impressed
Didn't bother paying the check and send service either

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