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Doggydoggydoggy Wed 27-Feb-19 19:43:43

Is it even legal?

Live in a lovely house, in a nice enough street but burglaries are becoming more and more regular here...

Had the police over again today asking for CCTV footage.

I was thinking something like this?

WhenISnappedAndFarted Fri 01-Mar-19 08:33:19

We had bars on a rental flat before, I hadn't realised there were bars because everytime we looked round it was in the evening and the curtains were closed.

I hated it, it really concerned me about if there was a fire. If I had known there were bars I'd never have moved in.

SavageBeauty73 Fri 01-Mar-19 08:13:11

Why don't you get an alarm wired to the police? I had ADT in my previous house.

hinely Fri 01-Mar-19 07:55:45

They were on my flat in central London when I moved in but I removed them when the windows were replaced - they were very easy to remove, so professional thieves could probably remove them in many cases. But they're a visible deterrent.

I've not seen them that much in London but they're very common in European cities where you can see them painted nicely.

Nothinglefttochoose Fri 01-Mar-19 07:54:02

Hideous. Get deadbolts and replace ground floor windows with toughened glass instead.

SileneOliveira Fri 01-Mar-19 07:51:09

Before spending money, call the local cop shop and ask if they have a crime prevention officer they can send round. They will audit your property, tell you where the weak spots are (if any) and give advice on things like there to position lights.

It's not about making your house like Fort Knox. It's about making it less attractive to scumbags than the other houses on your street.

Butchyrestingface Fri 01-Mar-19 07:47:14

GoGo - the one I know of is Glasgow. I think of it any time I see the bars. Think they might be illegal in Glasgow now, but not sure.

The one I’m thinking of was in Woodlands and two boys died. Terrible.

falcon5 Fri 01-Mar-19 07:40:08

Sorry I killed it! I was thinking about this and I guess... you can and I understand why and would myself.in certain circumstances do a lot of things to improve home security. None of these things are as good as having good education system, active engaged community, police force that functions etc. (Someone cleverer than me could probably tell you lots more factors). Plus also once you get the fear, it's difficult to get rid of it regardless of what you do.... making your home "impenetrable" is a tall order.

falcon5 Thu 28-Feb-19 21:08:12

Was country in Africa... super vague answer and vast continent but not here basically. Rape gate is what we called a barred metal door that was at the start of the bedroom area... the idea is it's another layer of security that if people get in the house they can take anything they want outside that zone and you are.another layer further in. Meant to buy more time.

beanaseireann Thu 28-Feb-19 20:20:08

What's a rape gate ???

MissTook Thu 28-Feb-19 19:44:48

A friend who lives in Spain says the burglars there will get in through
the roof if they can't get in any other way.

GreenTulips Thu 28-Feb-19 19:21:22

You can buy metal shutters for inside the house that slide across the window to make it safe at night or when your out

They have a key

Look into that

LMW1990 Thu 28-Feb-19 19:21:19

I read bras not bars... disappointed now

As you were

ChesterGreySideboard Thu 28-Feb-19 19:17:02

Where did you live to have a ‘rape gate’, I would just move?

anniehm Thu 28-Feb-19 19:14:56

Double glazing is really hard to break into, mist burglaries are through windows left ajar, crow barring doors etc.

mummyhaschangedhername Thu 28-Feb-19 19:03:19

I've been burgled, it was a year last Oct. it was horrific but I'd certainly chose that over a fire.

What I learnt though, get a good safe, limits the loss of expensive items. Keep blinds open, my neighbours have automatic lights and the blinds constantly open which I think deters more, but I'm not not sure I want to be that exposed.

We had CCTV but now we have more. An alarm helps too. We have a ring doorbell which alerts as when someone is near the door.

Makes yourself look busy, radios and dark barking devices.

The most important is secure windows and doors.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD Thu 28-Feb-19 18:53:19

I’m sure you can get some the you can ‘open’ from the inside should you need to escape. My sister was broken into a lot of times and bars made her feel more secure as the thieving ratbags weren’t above stealing when you were at home.

Thisisthelaststraw Thu 28-Feb-19 18:50:39

Holy fuck @falcon shock
Where did you live?

falcon5 Thu 28-Feb-19 18:29:49

I've had a lifetime before living here of bars on my Windows. They were always fitted on the inside. My dad always had at least one of the bedrooms have a hinged and padlocked section for fire (he knew a family who burnt inside). I had them.on my own place when I was older - by the end we had concrete rebar rods drilled and cemented into the walls on the inside, metal internal doors with additional locks on the inside of all external wooden doors and locked metal "rape gate" for the bedroom wing. Then we had a fucking earthquake when I was in bed........

Thisisthelaststraw Thu 28-Feb-19 14:28:28

Interesting @Borne. I’m not a techie but dh is so would interested to see if he could do ifttt. Must admit it makes me laugh to think of a burglar (from their mindset) breaking into a house in the dead of night and having the shite frightened out of them grin

Just realised I went into a ramble and never answered the actual op. No, I’d never put bars on my windows as I’d be too afraid of being trapped in a fire.

I think a creepy recording of some kind would be much better deterrent than a dog. Can you imagine breaking into a house (all you mumsnet burglars grin) and a very loud stereo begins to play circus music or a recording of a deep, whispering, menacing voice saying something scary or laughing like a maniac. grin

I think with IFTTT (if this, then that) you could create a rule so that an alert from this device and then that device could trugger ‘play mp3 of your choice’

Thisisthelaststraw Wed 27-Feb-19 23:23:49

I had a terrifying experience many years ago that left me feeling very vulnerable and unsafe in any home I lived since. I went through years of ridiculous security measures to feel safe enough to sleep. I’ve settled a bit now but will always feel panic if I hear a noise outside.

I have a few measures in place that allow me to sleep when dh is working nights..

I have a Rottweiler.
I lock all internal doors to rooms not being used (leave key in door in case of fire)
Gravel driveway
Small barker (jack Russel) outside (great alert dog)
Security lighting
Escape plan (three doors need to be gone through to get to us)
Fire escape window from escape room onto lower level roof
Strategically placed furniture to block said doors after we’ve (me and dd) locked them behind us.
Speed dial numbers on mobile

Sound like we live in a horror movie with threats all around but it’s just me. It’s what I need to feel safe however low the threat. After what happened years ago my fear is someone wanting to get to me or dd and not that they want my stuff. Fuck, I’d load up the van if stuff was all they wanted and make tea before they leave! That bastard will never know the lifetime of fear he left me with.

I’ve said to dh a few times that actually I think a creepy recording of some kind would be much better deterrent than a dog. Can you imagine breaking into a house (all you mumsnet burglars grin) and a very loud stereo begins to play circus music or a recording of a deep, whispering, menacing voice saying something scary or laughing like a maniac. grin

Realising after tying all that that it wasn’t very helpful. Sorry.

Doggydoggydoggy Wed 27-Feb-19 22:57:40

I’ve got a response back from the grille seller!

The grille is hinged but can only give emergency access if fitted on the inside.

Bit of a bummer as it’s not as aesthetically pleasing on the inside, in my opinion anyway, but, it will do the job and no risk of dying in a fire.

So, i’ll get DH to measure the windows tomorrow I think

SpringForEver Wed 27-Feb-19 22:38:42

I had the sliding grille type of bars on most of my accessible windows and some fixed, cemented in ones. The non fixed ones opened with keys. When I sold the house I was asked why I had them and the simple answer was that I was away a lot, because I was.

Am thinking about getting them again. Or moving house which I would prefer. Or both.

spugzbunny Wed 27-Feb-19 22:31:10

Common in parts of Liverpool and I've seen it in Leeds and Nottingham too. CCTV or a good burglar alarm would probably be cheaper and just as effective though.

Doggydoggydoggy Wed 27-Feb-19 22:19:21

I don’t think there is a theme no.

Just opportunistic thieving bastards getting in through the usual windows and doors and stealing any old valuable.
The one the police were asking about today scaled the fence to gain access and took jewellery.

Yes, I am going to upgrade the locks and get a good, bright light

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