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To think that TV chefs don't get the point of takeaways?

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AnguasDogCollar Sun 24-Feb-19 18:52:39

Every celebrity chef, cookbook author and blogger seems to do it at some point. The compulsory "make your own takeaway!" episode/chapter/blog. Recipes for curry, sweet and sour chicken, your own hand battered fish and chips. The reasons vary "So much CHEAPER" "So much HEALTHIER" "So much TASTIER" "So much QUICKER".

This shouldn't irritate me so much but it does. I know how to make a bloody curry. But if I don't have any food in then no, it's not quicker to go to the shop, buy all the ingredients, make it from scratch, and wash everything up afterwards.

Sometimes, people just don't feel like cooking. They're ill. They just spent ages cleaning their kitchen and can't face messing it up again. They had a rough day and are knackered. So cooking the same thing isn't going to serve the same purpose of NOT COOKING! Why do none of them seem to grasp this?!

(The exception to this is Nigella, who once did an episode where she got chips from the chippie. And put them in a wrap with hummous, but still...)

MilkTrayLimeBarrel Sun 24-Feb-19 19:31:39

I never eat takeaways - you certainly do not know what is in them - full of rubbishy ingredients I think. Much rather make my own food and know what I am eating.

Xmasbaby11 Sun 24-Feb-19 19:33:14

Yanbu! I do make fakeaway food sometimes and it's nice, but it's in no way a replacement for choosing various dishes that just appear without any effort. Not to mention lack of clearing up.

I think it's useful to try to cook if you feel you're having too many takeaways.

speakout Sun 24-Feb-19 19:33:55

Totally with you op.

There are very few things that raise my hackles in life but TV chefs have number one slot.

I cook meals all week for five adults.
Sometimes a takeway is justthe ticket.
For me it's the effort, planning buying a meal, clearing up afterwards.

A takeway leaves the kitchen tidy- apart from few plates.

I find TV chefs arrogant- evan the lovely Nigel Slater who seems to think that a supper can be arranged around a left over slice of brie and a few figs in a brown paper bag.
No obvious kids around and a team to wash up.

maddiemookins16mum Sun 24-Feb-19 19:37:21

I’ve never been able to do a Chinese fakeaway that tastes anything as good as our local Chinese takeaway.

exLtEveDallas Sun 24-Feb-19 19:40:04

We had a takeaway tonight. Busy day visiting, lots of socialising, driving etc. Did NOT want to come home and make dinner.

I bought Sweet and Sour Chicken, chicken curry, crispy shredded beef, mixed veg chow mein and special fried rice. It's done 3 large meals tonight and will do 2 more lunches.

NOT A CHANCE would I have made all that! At a push it would have been the S&S, rice and chow mein. A takeaway gives you the chance to mix and match more meals.

NunoGoncalves Sun 24-Feb-19 19:40:07

I have a solution! Don't read celebrity cookbooks!

NunoGoncalves Sun 24-Feb-19 19:41:44

I never eat takeaways - you certainly do not know what is in them - full of rubbishy ingredients I think. Much rather make my own food and know what I am eating

I'm guessing you never eat out either then. Must kind of suck.

AnxietyDream Sun 24-Feb-19 19:45:26

Once people know how to cook, they realise their own pizza or curry is so much better

I've tasted some lovely homemade curries and pizza, but none would ever replace my very good takeaways. You absolutely can't replicate a good takeaway (that has had hours of food prep and specialist equipment) at home in a reasonable time.

If your food is so much better than a takeaway, your takeaway must be crap.

FeedMeBooks Sun 24-Feb-19 19:46:59

YANBU Tom Kerridge is the worst offender. See www.bbc.com/food/collections/tom_kerridges_top_takeaways
Beef and blue cheese on puff pastry is nothing like a takeaway pizza and I wouldn't enjoy it. Not a gourmet grin

Feelingfullandreadytoclean Sun 24-Feb-19 19:54:13

Getting a take away here is a 20 mile round trip! No one delivers to us. It's definitely easier just to cook some pasta. We only ever get take away when we have been out and are driving home past one and it's normally warm by the time we get it home so have to reheat it anyways.

XingMing Sun 24-Feb-19 19:58:12

I don't eat out often, and have takeaway even less. I prefer to know what has gone into any meal I eat, and I'm a good cook. I don't eat out (or even have coffee out) unless it's at least as good as I could produce at home. But my coffee is Nespresso or Hormozi, and I can reproduce 90% of a chef's skills, although my plating abilities are more school dinner than fine dining.

ScottChegg Sun 24-Feb-19 20:01:20

We do sometimes get takeaways for the same reasons as anyone else. I do make them myself however, because I have three teenagers with hollow legs and sometimes I just want Chinese/curry without it costing me easily forty or fifty quid!

TV chefs won't cut it though, what do they know about takeaways? I learned to do it firstly from YouTube from people who are running takeaways! Curry from a channel called CURRYHOLIC1 (and later his ebook) and Chinese from Khoan Vong (and his blog) and the wonderful Ziang's Oriental Food Workshop YT channel. (I love them, they're a mother and son and she's as mad as a box of frogs.)

@maddiemookins16mum have a look at Ziang's! He says the reason you can't get the same taste at home is you're not using MSG, pure and simple.

RedForShort Sun 24-Feb-19 20:02:04

I always disappointed by takeaways. Certainly fancy the idea of them. When I just don't want to think about what everyone might eat and don't want to cook they are very appealing. Though id much rather go to a resturant. (Funnily enough celebrity chefs are good with people going to restaurants --preferably theirs.--)

StroppyWoman Sun 24-Feb-19 20:02:25

YANBU
I cook for 5 every day - a 13yo girl and the rest eat adult portions, and rarely agree on meals.

If we get a takeaway, everyone picks what they like and I am not making 2-5 different dishes to satisfy everyone. There's not effort, there's no washing up and it arrives at my door.

TV chefs have a point if people are ordering takeaway to compensate for not being able to cook,but most of us just want a night off, for god's sake.

bibbitybobbityyhat Sun 24-Feb-19 20:06:41

Yanbu. Of course I can make cheaper, healthier meals myself. But occasionally I don't fucking want to. Chefs and cooks piss me off generally with their over-enthusiasm. Cooking is a chore, just like any other.

SmarmyMrMime Sun 24-Feb-19 20:07:09

Just Eat is amazing. A few clicks to reorder what we had last month and no mental effort whatsoever.

I can cook fantastic healthy food, but catering for a family's likes and dislikes (DS1 in particular being frustratingly fickle), cooking around intolerances, cooking around bedtimes and activities all conspire to suck the joy out of cooking.

Too many chefs clearly don't live in dull provincial towns judging by the lists of ingredients that I've barely heard of let alone can actually buy in my local dull, provinical supermarkets.

YeOldeTrout Sun 24-Feb-19 20:13:43

I only really like take-aways when I fancy expensive fatty salty low-fibre food. Which isn't most the time, tbh. I like plain home-made high veg content meals better. It is less hassle to make it myself.

Bravelurker Sun 24-Feb-19 20:32:03

I completely agree with Ribbon, I rarely eat takeaway /ready meals so it's the one time I can treat myself without giving a fiddlers feck. Plus when my colleagues force us all to bake for charity events, I will happily buy a gorgeous cake because knowing the amount of butter and sugar that is required in a relatively simple sponge cake stresses me out and I would rather not know tbh.

MitziK Sun 24-Feb-19 20:51:12

The majority of takeaway staples are bought in bulk bags of frozen and then fried/microwaved/shoved in a pan to order. Anybody could do that - if they have access to the supermarkets catering to that particular ethnicity and have the distinctive seasonings, etc, already in the house.

Cook book chefs are trying to flog an illusion that the purchaser is 'better' in a some way than the person who doesn't want to start deep frying chicken on a Friday night - or to entertain the person who sees a meal as a specific experience to shop for, prepare and cook, rather than a case of 'what's in the fridge? Hmm, that cauli looks a bit sad and there are a couple of potatoes going wrinkly. Potato and cauliflower curry it is, then'.

I am a good cook and can do the majority of takeaway meals easily - but there is no substitute for chip shop chips and just because I can cook these things doesn't mean that I have to do it all the fucking time. So DP gets sent out twice a month for takeaway.

Princessmushroom Sun 24-Feb-19 20:55:01

You know what word I cannot bloody stand? ‘Fakeaway’

Gingerkittykat Sun 24-Feb-19 21:08:39

YABU

My favourite TV cooking series was Ching's Chinese Food in Minutes.

I always end up disappointed in take-aways, I feel guilty for spending so much and eating so many calories and fat.

I love some of the recipes from her book, once you have bought the basic spices in they last for ages and I'm happy the meals are tasty and healthier. I never deep fry so I do miss out on those things so ended up grabbing a sweet and sour pork recently.

I also love the book that teaches you how to make take-away Indian curries.

Having said that, nothing is going to get me to attempt my favourite Shish Shalshik kebab, it would cost a fortune to buy the lamb and I'd never be able to chargrill it like they do in the take away.

AnguasDogCollar Sun 24-Feb-19 21:17:05

I love Ching too. But making Chinese food, or Indian food, or whatever, isn't a valid substitute for a takeaway. It's just making Chinese food or Indian food at home- which Chinese and Indian people do without pretending it's the same as a takeaway! I'm not knocking cooking these things yourself (I make a damn good curry as it happens) but the point of takeaways is NOT cooking.

I've never seen a chef say "Here's how to make a roast! After you've done it my way, I guarantee you'll never go to a carvery again!" - I rather suspect because most of these people have restaurants and don't want to discourage eating out. But it's every bit as daft.

JennyBlueWren Sun 24-Feb-19 21:25:32

Why pick up a takeaway on your way home from a trip away and you know you've got nothing in the fridge when you could easily pop to the local butcher and grocers to select some locally sourced seasonal produce and then whip up a delicious, nutrious meal which happens to share the same name and general idea as the take away?

I can sort of see the point for the people who have never tried cooking and are living off takeaways because they don't believe they can do it but that's not why I do takeaways.

I have this idea that rather than taking people from one extreme to the other they ought to slowly work down a scale. Replace takeaways/meals out with ready meals. Replace ready meals with jar of sauce/spice blends/pre prepared stuff. Then replace that with from scratch. (and then own butchery/animal husbandry).

keepforgettingmyusername Sun 24-Feb-19 21:34:43

'Why pick up a takeaway on your way home from a trip away and you know you've got nothing in the fridge when you could easily pop to the local butcher and grocers to select some locally sourced seasonal produce and then whip up a delicious, nutrious meal which happens to share the same name and general idea as the take away?'

Is this a joke? I genuinely can't tell confused

justasking111 Sun 24-Feb-19 22:17:39

We have some good restaurants that quietly sell dishes on their menu as a takeaway. I have bought those and enjoyed them. Having said that I would rather eat a nice lunch and then have a snack at suppertime. There are a lot of specials at lunch time in many eateries two courses for reasonable prices.

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