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Grammarist Sat 23-Feb-19 00:53:56

Just had a discussion with the ever-lovely DH where I mentioned that a female friend of mine (an eminent Professor in her field) was a target of mansplaining via a live TV interview recently.

DH exploded at me. Mansplaining apparently isn't real and I shouldn't think that it is...

Hmmm.... I think he may be doing it to me. Dick smile

MulticolourMophead Sun 03-Mar-19 15:05:49

He's clearly not realised he's the one out of step..... grin

SmileEachDay Sun 03-Mar-19 15:04:25

OMG Multi I remember that exchange on Twitter. He went on for DAYS, refusing to accept he was wrong, then trying to claim the terminology needed to “move with the time”. It was hilarious.

MulticolourMophead Sun 03-Mar-19 15:00:38

Could this be a contender for the ultimate in mansplaining?

limitedperiodonly Tue 26-Feb-19 20:15:16

user please stop misspelling mansplaining. It's making you look even more of an idiot.


Slowknitter Tue 26-Feb-19 17:14:24

The fact that women sometimes explain things in a similarly ignorant but patronising way does not mean that mansplaining 'doesn't exist'. Mansplaining is a blatant demonstration of sexism and displays a (perhaps sometimes subconscious) belief that men inherently know more about everything than women do. It's a thing many of us recognise, and its motivation and often its style are specifically male.

Snoozysnoozy Tue 26-Feb-19 16:31:42

Thank you. Should have realised when it was on Twitter. Funny though

BartonHollow Tue 26-Feb-19 15:50:17

He's deleted his original tweet now but an article about it is here :

BartonHollow Tue 26-Feb-19 15:43:44

Yes it was an actual Twitter exchange!

I'll find a link

Snoozysnoozy Tue 26-Feb-19 15:40:57


Any evidence for your post about the article? Feels a bit like a myth.

SlinkyDinkyDoo Tue 26-Feb-19 15:07:35

SlinkyDinkyDoo Tue 26-Feb-19 14:14:07

Does he also think the glass ceiling is made up?

BartonHollow Tue 26-Feb-19 14:06:51

Sorry I posted something trivial in the middle of something serious blush

That is by and large how the molester got away with it in Abducted In Plain Sight

Both families were members of the LDS church and they just wanted it hushed up

Lizzie48 Tue 26-Feb-19 14:02:07

My friend was told that she and her DD shouldn't report the abuse either, because it would bring shame on the church.

Lizzie48 Tue 26-Feb-19 14:00:21

Posted too soon. Not just over this issue. They cover up abuse in the home because they don't want to bring shame on the church. A friend of mine was told that she was to blame for her DH sexually abusing her DD. It left me in despair, as they've clearly not changed since the childhood abuse suffered by DSis and me was covered up.

BartonHollow Tue 26-Feb-19 13:58:59

The best one is that woman who got a snotty tweet saying WELL ACTUALLY, IF YOU'D READ THE ARTICLE

And replied with

"I wrote the article"


Lizzie48 Tue 26-Feb-19 13:53:11

The problem isn't with the large institutions within the church (apart from the RC Church), it's with independent Evangelical churches, which really are a law unto themselves. And of course run by men.

I grew up in one of these and I'm very disillusioned by them, l

saccade Tue 26-Feb-19 08:03:21

Thanks @Lizzie48. I completely agree with everything you say. I’m wondering how change can be brought about; I wonder whether just due to the very nature of the institution, such changes will inevitably be maddeningly slow. I suppose it is a case of changing hearts and minds, person by person.

Lizzie48 Sun 24-Feb-19 00:02:53

@saccade The women do go along with it; they see it as being faithful to what the bible teaches, and therefore the way it should be. I believe it's a misunderstanding of what the bible teaches, and obviously the cultural context was completely different in any case.

I personally think the churches are missing out on what a lot of very gifted women have to offer.

There are women who argue against it, obviously, that's the reason why we have C of E bishops now. So change does happen, just not as quickly as a lot of us would like.

saccade Sat 23-Feb-19 22:46:52

Sorry my last reply just above was to @lizzie48

saccade Sat 23-Feb-19 22:45:39

Thanks @lizzie. That’s so disheartening. Are the women largely going along with it, or is there even a way for them to express their dissatisfaction.

MitziK Sat 23-Feb-19 22:06:09

The time I had a man jump up and stand in the middle of the stage, take an XLR lead out of my hand and explain to me VERY carefully how to twist it into some demented Celtic knot pattern before tieing the entire thing in half (and therefore permanently damaging both the casing and most likely the wires inside) was a particular highlight.

Especially when my assistant came along, exclaimed 'what fucking dick did that?' and chucked it straight into a bin bag.

SpamChaudFroid Sat 23-Feb-19 21:41:25

Again I ask what's the term when it comes to woman doing the same, what isn't there one of these when woman can be just as bad if not worse?

This is brilliant! Right on cue, a perfect example of whataboutery as well!

CheshireChat Sat 23-Feb-19 20:41:39

DP does 'man-grabbing' he takes whatever out of my hands, messes about with it and then tries to dazzle me with his knowledge.

BitOfFun Sat 23-Feb-19 20:25:21

Have we had this yet?

Travisandthemonkey Sat 23-Feb-19 19:06:06

It’s just terminology, and if women didn’t feel like it was a relative constant in their life then how did the terminology come about? Genuine question?

Because your answer to that will go a long way to explaining how you view women, even if you are a woman.

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