Desperate dp lost job.. What do we do.

[JustAskingForAFriend]

So dp changed job 2 weeks ago for one that should of been better for us. He'd left a really good job.
The job didn't work out they said they couldn't afford him and got rid in trial period. There was Saturday.
He's just been for an interview now and he's got the job to Stert 1s week in Dec.

We dihdnt get much TC and had out 4 weekly payment on Fri.
I need to go online and update tax credits that's he's no longer working.
I'm guessing that will trigger to UC. Do they transfer it or do we?
We don't know yet how much the new job is, they're putting figures together and letting know. But it's only likely to be in the region of 20k.
Weve just about covered bills to end of Dec. Rest will have to go on cards for groceries etc.
I know the UC horror stories but we have no choice whatsoever. It sucks.
Im gutted as he tries so hard. I hadn't lonh given up my job after mat leave as we thought the other job would of been perfect. And we can't afford childcare and have no help at all with childcare.

[JustAskingForAFriend]

Sorry about typos baby in arms.

[Thehop]

Can he grovel to old job and ask for it back? Say he was miserable at new place?

[JustAskingForAFriend]

They've filled position.
Like I say he's got this one lined up.
He was offered another but wa sorioer dodgy as they wanted to pay part cash etc. And he won't do that.

[PUGaLUGS]

I agree with Thehop.

[Whocansay]

They couldn't afford him? Surely, they would have known that before he started! What utter madness!

He has a new job lined up for December. In the meantime, one of you could get some seasonal / evening work if it will leave you short?

[AmandaBuffamonteezi]

Could he sign up with an agency for a couple of weeks to do some temp work? I've done reception/admin temp jobs but know in my area there are always thing like call centre jobs or meter readers

[CuriousaboutSamphire]

Has he contacted ACAS about that?

Without knowing what was said, how they phrased it, I would think that there could be grounds for some litigation - they've left him in a terrible situation through no fault of his own.

0300 123 1100.

[JustAskingForAFriend]

He's signed with an agency. To help. Bills arw covered till end Dec. So it's just general living. He does have a small registered self employment job but it's very specific and is booked up weekends which helps a little.

My question was more for how uc will work etc.

[JustAskingForAFriend]

He could tet calling acas but he hadn't even signed his contract that kept getting put off. Gutted as he did it all for us to make our lives easier. Better hours for family time etc.. :(

[CondomsLubricantAndFlapjack]

I know someone who went back to their old job after about 6 weeks - it is possible.

Can you work evenings to avoid childcare?

[sobeyondthehills]

My question was more for how uc will work etc

They will switch you over and call you in for an interview, in there you can ask for an advance, which you will have to pay back over (I think) 5 months

[sobeyondthehills]

Should also add, this will only happen if your area has been switched over to UC and you don't have 3 or more children

[Awwlookatmybabyspider]

They must have known they couldn't afford him all along. They probably just wanted free labour.
However count yourself very very fortunate that at least your dh has foujd another job. Those who have been unemployed for months are in absolute despair facing eviction or even waiting for payments if they're going on the Universal Credit might well say "Some people don't know when they've got it good). You do have to count lucky stars. I know that doesn't help at the moment, but. At least you can see light at the end of your tunnel.

[plaidlife]

Sadly I don't the second company have done anything illegal in letting him go going the trial period so I wouldn't try and persue that.
I know you have no childcare but could you try and set up some seasonal work/agency work at different times to DP so that he can do childcare.

[KitKat1985]

As an interim, can he contact an agency to get some work for the next couple of weeks? Most agencies I know pay weekly.

[Karenoid]

You will not be switched over to UC based in an income change to tax credits. You only change over in the case of a joint claim ending. Ie splitting up and reclaiming as a single person.

[SusannahL]

Shouldn't he be looking for full time work?

You say the new job only pays around £20,000 which sounds like a part-time position.

[CuriousaboutSamphire]

he hadn't even signed his contract that kept getting put off. Which may, or may not, make any difference.

Just get him to contact ACAS and let hem give him some proper legal advice. At least that way he will know he has done all he can do.

[hannah1992]

What karenoid said is incorrect. If UC has been rolled out in your area any change of circumstances will trigger a change over. This includes a change of income.

You have to apply online and you can try to identify yourself online but It doesn't often work so you have to go in with documents. An appointment will be made for you and a separate one for your partner.

Then once all documents are in they will make you an appointment for an interview with an advisor, here you will be able to get an advance payment if you need it. The time scale usually 6 weeks but has been known to take much longer than this

[CuriousaboutSamphire]

You say the new job only pays around £20,000 which sounds like a part-time position. Really? For many people that is a reasonable FT wage, it is just short of £10 per hour!

[sobeyondthehills]

You say the new job only pays around £20,000 which sounds like a part-time position.

Its sounds like a full time position on just above minimum wage

[babysharkah]

Oh come on @susannahL surely you can grasp that many many many people work for FT for less than 20k. That's above MW I think.

[EmUntitled]

There are loads of seasonal jobs around at this time of year, you or he could work evenings and weekends in a pub, hotel or restaurant for some extra money - some of these jobs are paid weekly which would be ideal.

As it's only a short term issue, do you have anything you can sell for cash? Stuff your kids don't use any more etc.

[snowgirl1]

@SusannahL did you know the minimum wage (for someone over 25 years old) is £7.83 per hour? For someone working 40 hours a week that's £16,286 p.a. It could be less if the full-time hours are, say, 35 hours per week or someone is under 25 years old. So £20K could quite easily be a full-time salary. Suggests you're quite far removed from the realities of many people's reality by saying that £20K seems like a part-time salary. The average salary is around £27- £28K - and for that to be an average - there have to be people who are paid less than that.

[sossages]

You say the new job only pays around £20,000 which sounds like a part-time position

Surely you know that's bollocks, SusannahL??

OP, sorry this is happening to you. It might be worth getting down to your nearest Citizens Advice to see if they can guide you through this and make sure you're claiming everything you're entitled to. As others have said you could also contact ACAS to make sure the company's done this correctly - for example should there have been a notice period even in the trial period? It doesn't necessarily matter that he hasn't signed a contract.